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Gyges posted:At this point Republicans are going to have to do a lot more than just put a Martinez on the ticket to net the Hispanic vote. poo poo, putting a Rubio on the ticket probably isn't even going to net the Cuban subsection. I'm not saying it's a cure-all. I'm merely saying that Republicans will think it's part of a cure-all, if not the entirety of it.
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Omi-Polari posted:OK I laughed at that. A normal dude... who seems to enjoy using the power of the state to murder people. Nintendo Kid posted:Dick Cheney's brother or similar relative still alive. Chip Cheney!
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Deep Hurting posted:A normal dude... who seems to enjoy using the power of the state to murder people. Most Americans are very much in favor of that, nothing abnormal about it.
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Traveling to Iowa must loving suck. Like it's cold and lovely and it's some crappy Midwestern state that doesn't even matter in the general. That's why Florida should move its primary to the Tuesday before Thanksgiving, and both parties should agree to it. It could be like Spring Training. The candidates and media would get to travel around relatively pleasant areas (imagine Chris Christie in a bathing suit on Miami Beach). Iowa would stop mattering at all. Also, Florida is relatively purple and isn't a stupid empty state full of corn and no electoral votes.
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Apr 9, 2015 12:56
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Iowa matters to cynical prognosticators everywhere, and Florida deserves nothing
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Apr 9, 2015 13:05
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I can't think of a single state I'd want Florida to be ahead of, or even a disenfranchised territory
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Apr 9, 2015 13:07
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The Democrats had the right idea with Florida in 2008. 0 delegates.
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I would be in favor of making Florida residents endure the hell of more and earlier campaigning.
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Apr 9, 2015 13:24
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Florida is actually being sensible this time around. The last two cycles it's tried to jump into the early primary game and be one of the states coming right after the first four. It's received early debates as its reward and delegate penalties as it's punishment. In 2016 the state will be in compliance with both parties and hold its primary on March 15. This will be two weeks after 2016's "Super Tuesday" (March 1), which right now has Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Virginia.
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Shifty Pony posted:I would be in favor of making Florida residents endure the hell of more and earlier campaigning. This but also total disenfranchisement. All of the campaigning but none of the voting.
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Apr 9, 2015 13:31
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Joementum posted:will be two weeks after 2016's "Super Tuesday" (March 1), which right now has Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Virginia. This is extraordinarily shrewd
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Apr 9, 2015 13:52
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Gyges posted:I believe Liz Cheney is carrying on the family tradition of heartlessness. She is seasoning her organs with hatred so that they will be ready for eventual harvesting to keep the true commander of the GOP shambling among us. As for actual VP picks seems like Mia Love is being kept handy in a waiting room somewhere for just that purpose.
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"mia love" really sounds like a name that should belong to either a pornstress or a woman on an early-a.m. cooking show
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Apr 9, 2015 14:00
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mooyashi posted:This is extraordinarily shrewd Can you elaborate? I'm not seeing it.
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A friend who has heretofore never posted anything political on Facebook, just now:quote:I'm sure there's plenty of women that would speak out in support of Rand Paul, but they're all waiting for him to stop shushing them. He's catching on, I'm telling ya!
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Apr 9, 2015 14:15
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Gyges posted:I believe Liz Cheney is carrying on the family tradition of heartlessness. You need to be specific, since this particular tradition is both figurative and literal.
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Apr 9, 2015 14:19
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Hurt Whitey Maybe posted:Traveling to Iowa must loving suck. Like it's cold and lovely and it's some crappy Midwestern state that doesn't even matter in the general. It doesn't even have great beer like so many other Midwestern states.
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Nonsense posted:Reminder Fiorina is one of the worst CEOs of all time. Reading the wiki article about her, and its hilariously understated. quote:Fiorina presented herself as a realist regarding the effects of globalization. She has been a strong proponent, along with other technology executives, of the expansion of the H-1B visa program.[42] In January 2004, at a meeting to "head off rising protectionist sentiment in Congress," Fiorina said: "There is no job that is America's God-given right anymore. We have to compete for jobs as a nation."[43][44][45] While Fiorina argued that the only way to "protect U.S. high-tech jobs over the long haul was to become more competitive [in the United States]," her comments prompted "strong reactions" from some technology workers who argued that lower wages outside the United States encouraged the offshoring of American jobs.[46] Fiorina responded against protectionism in an editorial in the Wall Street Journal, writing that while "America is the most innovative country," it would not remain so if the country were to "run away from the reality of the global economy."[47] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carly_Fiorina#Hewlett-Packard
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MC Nietzche posted:Can you elaborate? I'm not seeing it. Joementum posted:Colorado, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Texas, Vermont, and Virginia. In order, "Midterm swingy, we think it can happen, but no," "lol not a chance in hell," "well I mean it's next to Wisconsin and I don't want to step on Scott's toes TOO hard," "okay yeah," "okay yeah," "okay... wait is Rick Perry running or not?" " "cf. Massachusetts," "please don't call a brown skinned man a monkey and I think this is in the bag" So through a small fault you have an actual, terrible cross section of republicans who don't matter because they're either insular, tantalizing or irrelevant. Meaning if you're a fringe candidate you could claim a coup with invisible clothes.
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Apr 9, 2015 15:32
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I'm mixing a bunch of metaphors, but I'm not running for public office
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Apr 9, 2015 15:33
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Titus Sardonicus posted:This but also total disenfranchisement. All of the campaigning but none of the voting. Hey.  Now, disenfranchisement of everyone north of Orlando (maybe an exception for UF students), that I could get behind.
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Cythereal posted:Hey. id settle for just no more de facto disenfranchisement of people near cities in FL since the wait times are terrible
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Nintendo Kid posted:Dick Cheney's brother or similar relative still alive. I'm just imagining Dick Cheney with a tophat and a Snidley mustache.
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mooyashi posted:In order, "Midterm swingy, we think it can happen, but no," "lol not a chance in hell," "well I mean it's next to Wisconsin and I don't want to step on Scott's toes TOO hard," "okay yeah," "okay yeah," "okay... wait is Rick Perry running or not?" " "cf. Massachusetts," "please don't call a brown skinned man a monkey and I think this is in the bag" Rick Perry is not winning the Texas primary.
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Apr 9, 2015 15:44
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yeah i lay awake wondering how Dick Cheney could be more comically evil too
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Apr 9, 2015 15:45
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Cythereal posted:Hey. Okay, I'll offer Cincinnati's enfranchisement in exchange. And to show that this is in good faith I am going to let you know that I may be living there myself in a few months. Not like my vote matters down there anyway 
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Apr 9, 2015 15:46
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Pinterest Mom posted:Rick Perry is not winning the Texas primary. Handshake bet? How about ten thousand dollars. Or for real I'll try and find you a regional snack and you do the same.
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Apr 9, 2015 15:47
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mooyashi posted:Handshake bet? How about ten thousand dollars. This guy has received 1.7 million more votes in Texas than Rick Perry ever did. 
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Pinterest Mom posted:This guy has received 1.7 million more votes in Texas than Rick Perry ever did. To be completely fair to Perry, Texas gubernatorial elections are held in non-presidential years.
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Apr 9, 2015 16:09
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Former Rhode Island Governor/Senator/Republican/Independent/Democrat Lincoln Chafee is running for President (as a Democrat!)! Get ready, Hillary! It's Chafee 2016!
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Concerned Citizen posted:Former Rhode Island Governor/Senator/Republican/Independent/Democrat Lincoln Chafee is running for President (as a Democrat!)! If Hillary loses would you say she got chaffed?
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Concerned Citizen posted:Former Rhode Island Governor/Senator/Republican/Independent/Democrat Lincoln Chafee is running for President (as a Democrat!)! dammit if anyone from Rhode Island is going to run it needs to result in a President Whitehouse
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Riptor posted:dammit if anyone from Rhode Island is going to run it needs to result in a President Whitehouse The slogan writes itself! Put Whitehouse in the White House
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Concerned Citizen posted:The slogan writes itself! Put Whitehouse in the White House its a shame that whitehouse.com is no longer a pornography site.
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MC Nietzche posted:Can you elaborate? I'm not seeing it. Mooyashi partially answered this, but I think the answer's more high-level than his analysis. Florida can't be before Super Tuesday or they risk losing delegates. If they're on Super Tuesday, they're competing with a bunch of other states for attention. Two weeks after Super Tuesday, however, there will be a winnowed field with eyes on Florida....
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Apr 9, 2015 18:23
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Actually, the delegate rules are why it's exactly March 15. The GOP allows all states that hold their primaries on March 15 or later to apportion their delegates on a winner-takes-all basis rather than a way that is proportional to how many votes they get. This way, they ensure a Florida-based candidate (i.e. Jeb) gets the maximum delegate allocation. March 15 is the exact earliest day it can be held without having to use proportional allocation.
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http://www.ijreview.com/2015/04/289349-turned-eight-republican-presidential-candidates-sims-dropped-white-house/quote:Ted Cruz and Rand Paul are the only Republicans to officially announce their intentions of running for President. However, the list of “maybe, probably, definitely” people potentially running continues to grow.  e: haha the url for that image http://static.ijreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/rick-perry-peed-1024x512.jpg
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Beaten on the Chafee announcement, dude's got a nice lil website, I think I like 'im http://www.chafee2016.com
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