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computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
ISP tripled my downlink speed for no reason:



Not terrible for ~$50/month (would be $35 but I"m lazy and am renting the modem).

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wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Der Meister posted:

How can these assholes get away with this poo poo?

Because the majority of their customers either don't care or have no other choice. You generally don't pick DSL if you care about speed and there are other wired options.

They're not violating any laws as long as they continue to use the magic words "up to" in their advertising, since in theory if you had perfect lines and tested at 4 AM on a Sunday you could possibly get the rated speed.

wolrah fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Feb 10, 2015

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?
derp back != edit

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

Rurea posted:


This is at work. :negative:
My boss has been going back and forth for like 2 months with Cox trying to get them to run a line or some poo poo to our office in a crappy old part of town.

Dude. Telepacific can't do anything for you?

We had bonded t1s in our terrible part of LA. It wasnt the fastest but it was somewhat functional.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!


It's like $20 a month, uncapped too.

There is some competition going on in my area right now. My cable company is really trying to get people in my apartment building to switch to them. So they started this thing, I get free Internet through them now too. It's not as fast, but still very fast. I don't have it actually hooked up to anything to run a speed test on it right now though.

Now I'm thinking, how can I get these two different connections together in some way to get faster download speed and stuff? I tried reading up a bit on it, but I don't know too much about this stuff. I think it involves buying a new router? And something about load balancing? What I am looking at doing here?

I just figure I might as well, the second connection is just kinda sitting there so I gotta get something out of it.

EB Nulshit
Apr 12, 2014

It was more disappointing (and surprising) when I found that even most of Manhattan isn't like Times Square.


Best connection I've had at any place I've lived.

Krailor
Nov 2, 2001
I'm only pretending to care
Taco Defender

BrainDance posted:


Now I'm thinking, how can I get these two different connections together in some way to get faster download speed and stuff? I tried reading up a bit on it, but I don't know too much about this stuff. I think it involves buying a new router? And something about load balancing? What I am looking at doing here?


You'll want to look for a router that supports DualWAN. I know there are several prosumer wired-only routers that support this; the EdgeRouter Lite is probably the most affordable of the bunch. However I'm not sure what consumer wireless routers support this.

You should be aware that you won't be able to truly join the two connections into one super fast connection. EX - If one connection is 100Mb/s and the other 50Mb/s you won't ever be able to download a single file at 150Mb/s. However you will be able to download the file at 100Mb/s and still be able to do other things using the other 50Mb/s connection without impacting the file download speed.

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

New fiber service! Coming to Detroit!

MLive posted:

Dan Gilbert, founder of Quicken Loans and Rock Ventures, confirmed via Twitter Saturday night that he's brining a newly-formed high-speed internet service provider to downtown Detroit.

And, as Gilbert said on Twitter, the service will be fast -- up to 100 times faster than what's currently offered in Detroit.
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2015/02/dan_gilbert_to_bring_fast_as_g.html#incart_2box

I've been seriously considering moving to Midtown. A lot of beautiful old homes and apartments have already been renovated, or will be soon. Affordable fiber service would probably push me to that point.

Prescription Combs
Apr 20, 2005
   6

Krailor posted:

You'll want to look for a router that supports DualWAN. I know there are several prosumer wired-only routers that support this; the EdgeRouter Lite is probably the most affordable of the bunch. However I'm not sure what consumer wireless routers support this.

You should be aware that you won't be able to truly join the two connections into one super fast connection. EX - If one connection is 100Mb/s and the other 50Mb/s you won't ever be able to download a single file at 150Mb/s. However you will be able to download the file at 100Mb/s and still be able to do other things using the other 50Mb/s connection without impacting the file download speed.

ZyXEL ZyWALL firewalls also do mutli-wan quite well. I'm using one to combine two cable connections. 55/5.5Mbps + 22/2.2Mbps. As long as whatever your downloading can be threaded, IE multiple parallel connections, it'll aggregate both links.

Steam downloads at 9+ MB/s :banjo:

Setzer Gabbiani
Oct 13, 2004

Setzer Gabbiani posted:

Same



An upside is that maybe we aren't paid attention to as much as the people with these huge fuckoff FiOS speeds

It's time to look back at this post and laugh

22 Eargesplitten
Oct 10, 2010



Well, Centurylink wants $65 a month or $55 with a year-long contract where I'm at. They're the ones that already have a hook-up, but that's a lot more than I was hoping to spend. They have fiber out there, but I don't need fiber speeds, and even their fiber is only 40mb. I'm probably going to contact Comcast and our local ISP as well to see if they can do any better, but am I wrong in thinking that with the cost of the hook-up and everything, I'm looking at more than that? I'm not sure if I'm living here for more than three months, so I'm not locking myself into a year-long contract.

Do people ever get the rates that they advertise? They were advertising $30/month, is that with a 5-year contract or something?

Antillie
Mar 14, 2015

I regularly get ~68mbps on my 50mpbs connection at home. My assumption is that someone at Time Warner Cable screwed up when they provisioned my cable modem and didn't set the speed cap properly. My experience probably isn't typical though.

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010




Antillie posted:

I regularly get ~68mbps on my 50mpbs connection at home. My assumption is that someone at Time Warner Cable screwed up when they provisioned my cable modem and didn't set the speed cap properly. My experience probably isn't typical though.

TWC intentionally over-provisions so that in the case of line issues a loss of 10%+ speed doesn't bring you under advertised. I believe it started when the FCC started collecting measurements to hold ISPs accountable to what they were promising, and it was a simple way to make sure they would pass.

Antillie
Mar 14, 2015

Interesting. That's pretty cool actually.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe
out in the appalachians.


I'm likely to be moving to the NYC area in a few months, has anyone around there actually tried RCN's claimed 330 megabit connections? Saw some ads for it when I was up for an interview.

sellouts
Apr 23, 2003

I can vouch for the Time Warner Maxx they offer in nyc and la. My 200/20 is always up and I always get the full speed. It's awesome.

god this blows
Mar 13, 2003

Well I just had fiber internet installed to my house by the city. When I hook it up to the apple router its only 400M down/up but I don't really care as everything is super quick.

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

god this blows posted:

Well I just had fiber internet installed to my house by the city. When I hook it up to the apple router its only 400M down/up but I don't really care as everything is super quick.



It's so fast screenshot won't capture it!

god this blows
Mar 13, 2003

Panty Saluter posted:

It's so fast screenshot won't capture it!

Well that was the technician setting it up connected right to the NID. Now that I'm connected via the router it is a tad slower.

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!
Weird. Is an older router? I assume it's a gigabit connection or you wouldn't see even 400 mbps. I would think that's down to cpu/ram limitations. Or are you testing via wireless?

god this blows
Mar 13, 2003

Panty Saluter posted:

Weird. Is an older router? I assume it's a gigabit connection or you wouldn't see even 400 mbps. I would think that's down to cpu/ram limitations. Or are you testing via wireless?

Wired, I have an Apple Airport Extreme which is limiting the speed to about 430Mbps per the website below.
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/31564-apple-airport-extreme-gen-5-reviewed?showall=&start=1

Krailor
Nov 2, 2001
I'm only pretending to care
Taco Defender

god this blows posted:

Wired, I have an Apple Airport Extreme which is limiting the speed to about 430Mbps per the website below.
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/31564-apple-airport-extreme-gen-5-reviewed?showall=&start=1

Yeah, you'll have to step up to a different router if you want faster performance. You can look at the Router Charts on that same site to get an idea of which routers would give you better WAN to LAN performance.

suddenlyissoon
Feb 17, 2002

Don't be sad that I am gone.

SouthLAnd posted:

New fiber service! Coming to Detroit!

http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2015/02/dan_gilbert_to_bring_fast_as_g.html#incart_2box

I've been seriously considering moving to Midtown. A lot of beautiful old homes and apartments have already been renovated, or will be soon. Affordable fiber service would probably push me to that point.

Just come to Chattanooga. We have pretty much the same thing but better weather.

Prescription Combs
Apr 20, 2005
   6
Still waitin' for my TWC MAXXXXXXX upgrade. Jerks.

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

What are you guys even doing with internet this fast :smith:

Prescription Combs
Apr 20, 2005
   6

pandaK posted:

What are you guys even doing with internet this fast :smith:

:filez:


Really, though, I use my internet to proxy via VPN over public WiFi connections or if I need to tether through my phone. Also, being able to steam stuff from home over plex is nice.

Antillie
Mar 14, 2015

Prescription Combs posted:

Still waitin' for my TWC MAXXXXXXX upgrade. Jerks.

Same. Hurry up TWC. My things need to go faster!

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

pandaK posted:

What are you guys even doing with internet this fast :smith:

Porn. Oh my god, so much porn.

Antillie posted:

Same. Hurry up TWC. My things need to go faster!

Y'all are so cute, thinking the bottleneck is on your end and not server-side. :allears:

Antillie
Mar 14, 2015

Panty Saluter posted:

Y'all are so cute, thinking the bottleneck is on your end and not server-side. :allears:

I happen to know that it is on my end. I am able to get 1000mbps downloads with Steam at work and friends of mine in other parts of the city that already have TWC MAX connections are able to get 300mbps sustained transfers from many places. I cap out my 50 mbps TWC connection regularly. There is clearly no bottleneck on the server side of things.

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!
Steam is a torrent style download. Most single servers don't ever get close to 50 Mbps to a single remote computer. If you have a traffic monitor, watch it sometime while you're browsing. very few things will brim any decent connection (or even get close).

Antillie
Mar 14, 2015

Even so, I would be able to utilize a faster connection.

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!
Oh it can be, of course - but that's generally going to happen with multiple users and/or multiple sources simultaneously. It takes a surprising amount of doing to really work an internet connection.

On the flipside are people who think that a 2/1 connection should stream and browse for multiple people with no delays... :eng99:

Panty Saluter fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Apr 10, 2015

Prescription Combs
Apr 20, 2005
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I remember sharing an office that had a T1 line with a handful of other people. One youtube vid would bring everyone else trying to work to a screeching halt...

Antillie
Mar 14, 2015

I cap out my connection with a single TCP session on a regular basis. Generally HTTP or FTP when downloading an ISO image from somewhere. Netflix at 1080p is also quite capable. The same applies when a tablet downloads an Android update or I download a patch for EVE online. Sometimes I transfer a 200-300 meg file from the office to the server at my house over a VPN, that will also cap it out.

There are many servers out there that will sustain transfers greater than 50 mbps to a single client and many ways to fully utilize an internet connection. You just need to find them.

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!
Netflix 1080p saturates your connection ? Sorry you're stuck on 6 Mbps :v:

Antillie
Mar 14, 2015

It generally consumes about 30mbps. But if I want to watch one thing and the wife and/or kids want to watch something else on the other TV it has to downgrade the bitrate. I want pristine 1080p damnit.

Edit: Now that I think about. That's TWC on demand to a laptop or media center PC, not Netflix. My bad. But still, I want my 1080p.

Antillie fucked around with this message at 16:36 on Apr 10, 2015

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!
I can't imagine that TWC On Demand streams are anywhere near 30 Mbps. Seems a waste of bandwidth if it is...

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Panty Saluter posted:

I can't imagine that TWC On Demand streams are anywhere near 30 Mbps. Seems a waste of bandwidth if it is...

Well considering as it's all internal network traffic, I don't see how it would really cause them problems to do so.

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!
Saturating a single user's connection and hurting the performance for no image quality improvement would be beyond dumb. Especially given the cable boxes use 10-15 Mbps MPEG-2 for HD, even 10 Mbps h.264 would be more than adequate. Unless someone can show me the metadata that shows a 30 Mbps video stream I shall remain skeptical.

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Prescription Combs
Apr 20, 2005
   6

Panty Saluter posted:

Saturating a single user's connection and hurting the performance for no image quality improvement would be beyond dumb. Especially given the cable boxes use 10-15 Mbps MPEG-2 for HD, even 10 Mbps h.264 would be more than adequate. Unless someone can show me the metadata that shows a 30 Mbps video stream I shall remain skeptical.

Agreed considering the output from the STB is usually 1080i and compressed to hell.

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