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Boyd and Raylan know the land and ways out of it due to being born and raised there. And the only reason Boyd knowing about the place is even a factor is because the guy that was supposed to get them out had dropped dead, so can't really blame Ava for going there. Oh Snapple! fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Apr 8, 2015 |
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Fetus Tree posted:I wonder how much that actor practices his gun play thing Has he done it other than in a closeup? Because they could just be using someone actually skilled at it.
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Apr 9, 2015 01:57
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Wynne having the foresight to smuggle Catherine's expensive jewelry after her killing Mikey/dying was by far my favorite part of the episode.
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Vilkata posted:Wynne having the foresight to smuggle Catherine's expensive jewelry after her killing Mikey/dying was by far my favorite part of the episode. And something that went over my head until now!
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Vilkata posted:Wynne having the foresight to smuggle Catherine's expensive jewelry after her killing Mikey/dying was by far my favorite part of the episode. How did he have time to hide a necklace inside a ziplock, inside a tube of toothpaste? That's a great idea. I was also hoping Constable Bob had a role to play in taking down the Goonslinger, because I just don't buy him as this badass killer, he's all hat no cattle  And that Boyd and Raylan would split the money and disappear. Maybe Tim will take over as the gunfighter lawman in Harlan. We are posting our Finale Dreams, right?
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I reckon Boone will kill Raylan.
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Hey, is Raylan wearing his badge during that standoff with the Goonslinger in the preview?
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Jonas Albrecht posted:Hey, is Raylan wearing his badge during that standoff with the Goonslinger in the preview? Yes
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So how will they defy expectations when it comes to that oh-so-obvious no-bullet-in-checkhov's-gun?
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Why do I get the feeling that Boone's little speech on always going for the headshot will be his downfall in the duel similar to icepick guy?
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mrking posted:Yes Art is gonna lay the smack down on Vasquez.
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SublimeDelusions posted:Why do I get the feeling that Boone's little speech on always going for the headshot will be his downfall in the duel similar to icepick guy? The bullet is going to hit Raylan's hat, but only graze his head, and he will win out, with the destruction of his hat signifying the end of his career as a marshal.
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joepinetree posted:The bullet is going to hit Raylan's hat, but only graze his head, and he will win out, with the destruction of his hat signifying the end of his career as a marshal. Boone was aiming for the head and hit the kid in the shoulder. I think he has the potential to completely miss Raylan at a longer distance.
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Raylan and Boon have a tense stand off, but ultimately end up not going through with their duel. AV Club gives the episode an F.
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I don't know if this has been mentioned, but FX is doing a contest where the prize is watching the series finale with Walton and Timothy. And you support some charity or other. They've got some hilarious videos on Facebook of them poo poo talking each other, with Ava (can't remember the actress' name) stepping in because the boys can't behave. Just two of the things I learned from these videos: Walton has a little dog, a shitzu, and Timothy is terrified of guns and cries a little every time he has to fire one on the show. A link to the FB page for the lazy ones in this thread richardfun fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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Apr 9, 2015 20:15
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That video is a lot of fun but I don't know that it's a reliable source of cast trivia!
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richardfun posted:I don't know if this has been mentioned, but FX is doing a contest where the prize is watching the series finale with Walton and Timothy. And you support some charity or other. That is quite the contrast to the earlier contest where you could win a chance to go shooting with Oliphant. 
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joepinetree posted:The bullet is going to hit Raylan's hat, but only graze his head, and he will win out, with the destruction of his hat signifying the end of his career as a marshal. Then he takes Boone's hat off his head. Oh Snapple! posted:Boyd and Raylan know the land and ways out of it due to being born and raised there. One of my favorite things is people constantly bringing up knowing terrain as this invaluable thing. I think it's come up more in this season than any other between Loretta, Boyd, and Zachariah with the mines. How many times have we seen the new rich Big Bad try to move into town and get lectured about not knowing the land and/or people? NowonSA fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Apr 9, 2015 |
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NowonSA posted:One of my favorite things is people constantly bringing up knowing terrain as this invaluable thing. I think it's come up more in this season than any other between Loretta, Boyd, and Zachariah with the mines. How many times have we seen the new rich Big Bad try to move into town and get lectured about not knowing the land and/or people? It is hard to understand how different Appalachia is from the rest of the country if you have not been there. The show does a pretty good job reflecting that, although the California terrain is nothing like Kentucky, and they obviously take things to extremes for dramatic effect.
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I like how Ava's escape plan involved going over the ONE bridge in Harlan County where Boyd and Raylan always hang out.
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Irish Joe posted:I like how Ava's escape plan involved going over the ONE bridge in Harlan County where Boyd and Raylan always hang out. Yeah, the exact moment Markhams 2 paid LEOs happened to be there.
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During the Raylan / Boyd tense poo poo talking scene in the dark, you could clearly see where they both were, and like 30 feet apart at some point, but Raylan who never misses a shot was just firing randomly I assume they made it that way for tv audiences ? The abundance of light I mean Blue On Blue fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Apr 10, 2015 |
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grrarg posted:Well both are pretty big deals to the people that live in a small insular place like Harlan. Knowing the terrain is important because it is hard to get around the hills and hollows without knowing all the back roads and trails, plus what land is good for farming. Knowing the people, or rather being known by the people, is important because in a small town like that, everyone knows everyone's family, and they have ties going back generations. Yeah, I don't find it unrealistic or anything, I just think it's nice that it's reinforced as a big deal when that's rarely the case in other crime or police shows. Also, as a resident of Michigan I always got a kick out of the Detroit mafia always being obsessed with a small town in Kentucky for ~reasons~. Irish Joe posted:I like how Ava's escape plan involved going over the ONE bridge in Harlan County I think you can leave it at that, since I can't recall literally any other bridges being seen on Justified. Ever. SO much poo poo has gone down on that bridge too. It starts with Boyd killing an innocent man with true hate in his heart, and just goes downhill from there.
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NowonSA posted:Also, as a resident of Michigan I always got a kick out of the Detroit mafia always being obsessed with a small town in Kentucky for ~reasons~.
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Can anyone (Beeb, I guess) who actually lives in the backwoods tell me if hill people are a real thing?
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Sappo569 posted:During the Raylan / Boyd tense poo poo talking scene in the dark, you could clearly see where they both were, and like 30 feet apart at some point, but Raylan who never misses a shot was just firing randomly That's just one of those suspensions of disbelief you have to make, since having it be realistically dark would make for poor television
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Fog Tripper posted:Yeah, the exact moment Markhams 2 paid LEOs happened to be there. I'm having a bit more of an issue on how Boyd's getting around rough terrain with a pretty serious chest wound so well. Schiavona posted:Can anyone (Beeb, I guess) who actually lives in the backwoods tell me if hill people are a real thing? There are genuine 'hill people' and there are also the 'off-the-gridders' now as well. BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 06:33 on Apr 10, 2015 |
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I mean, honest to God "we'll kill you if we see you near our land" crazy hill people? In that last ep, that wasn't even their land, but there's still a half dozen of them waiting to ambush and kill anyone who wanders past? What is the motivation or belief structure that leads to that? They have seemed way over the top in the episodes they're in, and I assumed most of it was embellished.
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Nope, it's really not embellished at all. The motivation is simple: this is my land, you are a stranger*, you might want to kill me so I am going to kill you first. *stranger being anyone that hasn't lived there for several generations Tide fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Apr 10, 2015 |
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Phenotype posted:I mean, honest to God "we'll kill you if we see you near our land" crazy hill people? In that last ep, that wasn't even their land, but there's still a half dozen of them waiting to ambush and kill anyone who wanders past? What is the motivation or belief structure that leads to that? Yes, they exist, and its because they're growing weed.
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FogHelmut posted:Yes, they exist, and its because they're growing weed. Yup. Weed, moonshine, and number of illegal activities. I grew up about an hour and a half from a place called Easom Hills, Georgia. Wander a little to closer to those hills and you ran the risk of getting shot, getting caught in any number of traps, you name it. Some of the very best weed in the world came from there.
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grrarg posted:Detroit has strong ties to the south from hillbillies moving north for work in the factories during its heyday then back to Kentucky or Tennessee to retire. The Dixie Mafia being an offshoot of the Detroit mob makes more sense than the Italian mob families from New York/New Jersey. My only hope in life now is to point out a feature of Justified that you can't defend with reasonable real world logic. Maybe the Marshalls wouldn't be as involved in these major cases as they are in the show? Raylan would have been fired or reassigned after such a large number of shooting incidents? I'm grasping at straws here, but Justified is such a crazy rear end show there have to be some things that are just not plausible in reality, right?
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Solice Kirsk posted:I'd say the implausibility comes from all these things happening to like 5 different people and not from the situations themselves. And probably the timeline. How long has it been in-universe? Like a year tops, I think
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