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haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
placebo is a hell of a drug

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Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Nintendo Kid posted:

it's a bit more than that:
any form of poking at people seems to help a little with pain, and if people believe in the particular form will help them report other symptoms as bothering them less. this happens whether you legit puncture the skin according to ancient chinese guidelines, or if you just poke anywhere, or if you only prod the skin with a blunted thing, never breaking it, or if you just poke people with your fingers (in medical gloves of course for safety and cleanliness) straight up.

so basically there's no reason ever to do actual acupuncture, because you have a non-zero chance of rupturing somethin important or someone forgetting to clean the needle and jammin' some bacteria all up in your flesh.

basically the safest and equally effective thing to do is a straight up massage

wonderful

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Lutha Mahtin posted:

yeah acupuncture works because you believe it works. so once you understand HOW it works, then it doesn't work for you anymore! haha owned

that's like saying knowing how tickling works means it doesn't work for you

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

theflyingexecutive posted:

there's a good series of pics to show people who try to freak you out over "toxins" or "chemicals"



EHRMAGERD KEMIKALLLLZZZ!!!:frogsiren:

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
Reverse-Flash is a name that has been taken by supervillains in superhero fiction published by DC Comics. All of them have super speed and are enemies and foils of the superheroes known as the Flash.

Contents [hide]
1 Character biography
1.1 The Rival
1.2 Professor Zoom
1.3 Zoom
1.4 Inertia
1.5 Daniel West
2 Tangent Comics
3 In other media
3.1 Television
3.2 Film
3.3 Video games
4 See also
5 References
6 External links
Character biography[edit]
The Rival[edit]

The Rival. Art by Carlo Barberi and Terry Austin.
The Rival first appeared in Flash Comics #104 (February 1949). He is Dr. Edward Clariss, a professor at the university attended by the Golden Age Flash, Jay Garrick. He believes he has recreated the formula that gave Garrick his speed, which he calls "Velocity 9." He had heard Joan one night talking about how the Flash gave his speed to another student, which helped him get the last formula. He was bitter at the scientific community's rejection of his claims. Although he had become famous for other inventions in Europe, Clariss becomes a criminal. He wore a darker version of Flash's outfit and gave it to several other criminals. The Rival's version of the formula, however, proves to be temporary, and he is defeated and jailed.

In JSA #16 (November 2000) the Rival battles the Flash several months after his first appearance; in doing so he reaches lightspeed and vanishes into the Speed Force. Following the reformation of the Justice Society of America 50 years later, Johnny Sorrow retrieves him from the Speed Force, the Valhalla of fallen speedsters, good or evil, as well as their source of power. Sorrow invites him to join the new Injustice Society. The Rival, driven to insanity by his time in the Speed Force, races across the country on a super-speed killing spree. The Flash realizes that the Rival's path across the country spells out Clariss' name, and that the final murder will be Jay's wife Joan. The Flash is unable to prevent the Rival from killing a young boy, but absorbs his speed before he can kill Joan.

The Rival returns in Impulse #88 (September 2002), posing as Joan Garrick's doctor. Now pure speed energy, he possesses Garrick's fellow Golden Age speedster Max Mercury. After battling Jay and Impulse, the Rival escapes, still in possession of Mercury's body.

Another Golden Age Reverse Flash is a robot who wears a reversed-color version of Garrick's costume. The robot's only appearance was in one panel in The Flash vol. 2, #134 (February 1998), in which he is easily defeated by Garrick.

Professor Zoom[edit]
Main article: Professor Zoom
Eobard Thawne aka Professor Zoom, first appeared in The Flash #139 (September 1963). Originally, he is a criminal from the 25th century who found a time capsule containing the Silver Age Flash's costume. He is able to use a machine to amplify the suit's speed energy, providing the abilities of the Flash as long as he wears it. In the process, the colors of the costume reverse, with the suit becoming yellow, the boots and lightning bolt highlights turning red, and the chest symbol's white circle becoming black. He uses his speed to commit crimes. Flash had travelled to the future as he discovered an atomic clock in the capsule would become an atomic bomb due to the process. He defeated Reverse-Flash by making his friction-protection aura burn away and stopped the bomb from exploding. Despite destroying the costume, Zoom is still able to cause trouble for him. His knowledge of Allen’s dual identity enables him to strike at Allen by killing his wife Iris. He vibrates his hand through her skull after she refuses to marry him. Later he attempts to kill his fiancée Fiona. While saving Fiona’s life, the Flash breaks Zoom’s neck, killing him.

DC later revamped its continuity following the 1985 series Crisis on Infinite Earths. Professor Zoom was one of many character to undergo renovation. As seen in "The Return of Barry Allen" storyline in The Flash (vol. 2) #74-79, Thawne started out as a fan of the Flash. He gained super-speed by replicating the electrochemical bath that gave Barry Allen his powers and undertook surgery to make himself look like Allen. He traveled back in time using the Cosmic Treadmill to meet his hero. However, Thawne becomes mentally unstable upon discovering he is destined to become a villain. Though the true name of the Flash's greatest foe was not known in his time, it was known here. Zoom's mind—already disoriented by the stress of time travel as the Treadmill —had changed over the years. He arrives years after he had intended, while seeking escape by convincing himself that he is Barry Allen. However, his true, more violent nature is eventually revealed. "Barry" attacks Central City in 'revenge' for 'forgetting him', before he is defeated by Wally West, who tricks Zoom into returning to his proper time. Even though Thawne retained no memories of his journey, he felt "betrayed" by Barry and deeply hated him. Thawne began traveling back in time to seek revenge on the Flash, using his knowledge of "history" to his advantage.

Professor Zoom returns as the main villain in the mini-series Flash: Rebirth. Zoom claims to have a resurrection coming up soon, referencing the Blackest Night. In this appearance, Zoom claims to have not only traveled back in time, but also to have engineered Barry's return from Speed Force. Zoom once tried to stop Barry from originally becoming the Flash, hoping to get struck by the lightning. However, he nearly phases out of existence, causing the lightning to pass through him and transform Barry. He interprets this to imply that Barry needed to become the Flash for him to become the Reverse-Flash. He erased Barry's best friend from existence, and frames his father for murdering his mother. He is behind the reality changing event Flashpoint, and mocks Barry, who remembers how things should be, by placing a Reverse-Flash costume inside his ring. He appears briefly in Flashpoint #1, telling Barry's mother how nice it is to see her alive again. He returns in Flashpoint #4, confronting the Flash after Billy Batson is killed. He tells the Flash what really happened. Allen travels back in time to prevent his past self from stopping Zoom's murder of his mother and pulls the entire speed force into himself. This transforms history. He resets Barry's internal vibrations, allowing him to remember this. Zoom says this makes him a living paradox, because he is not connected to any timeline and can kill the Flash. However he is stabbed by Thomas Wayne from behind and apparently killed. Later the timeline is restored to one that is similar but not identical to the original.

Zoom[edit]
Main article: Zoom (comics)
Hunter Zolomon aka Zoom first appeared in The Flash: Secret Files & Origins #3.

After arriving in Keystone City, Hunter Zolomon was hired as a profiler, working with the police in their Department of Metahuman Hostilities. His work put him in constant contact with the Flash (Wally West), and the two became good friends. His insight was critical in solving cases, but he resented being stuck behind a desk.

He was severely injured in an attack by Gorilla Grodd, leaving him paralyzed from the waist down. He asked West to use the time-travelling cosmic treadmill in the Flash Museum to prevent this from occurring. West refused, saying that he could not risk damaging the timestream. Zolomon then broke into the museum and attempted to use the treadmill himself. The resulting explosion destroyed the museum (as well as his remaining sanity) and shifted Hunter's connection to time. He could now alter his personal timeline, giving the effect of super-speed.

Zolomon concluded that West would not help because, unlike Allen, he had never suffered personal tragedy. Zolomon decided that if he became the new Zoom and killed West's wife (Linda Park), this would help the Flash become a better hero.

Unlike other speedsters, Zoom's abilities lie not in speed but manipulation of time. For this reason he appears to be faster than The Flash and untouchable. This is betrayed in his speech patterns which ebb and flow at different speeds, almost entirely at random. His trademark attack is to snap his fingers creating a shockwave not just in space but across time. He uses this attack to cause Linda to miscarry.

The battle, the death of his unborn children and Linda's resultant despondency was too much for The Flash, so he enlisted the help of the Spectre (at the time, the spirit of Hal Jordan) to remove all memory from the world about the Flash's secret identity (including himself). Zoom, however, was unaffected and returned to plague him, but became trapped outside of time when he tried to join forces with Professor Zoom to make Wally relive the deaths of his children. Teaming up with the Cheetah, Zoom stretched his influence to the Justice League, but stated repeatedly that his only interest was "making the Flash a better hero". He enlists with the villainous Mockingbird (later revealed to be a disguised Lex Luthor) and is responsible for disfiguring the hero Damage.

Following a brief 'alliance' with Iris West when she requests his aid to save the Flash – now Bart Allen – from a future catastrophe, Zoom attempted to enlist Inertia as his new sidekick. However, despite Zoom restoring Inertia's speed by giving him access to his own temporal powers, Inertia soon turned on Zoom, claiming that he just wanted to make the heroes suffer where Zoom actually wanted them to work through the damage he inflicted, Inertia unravelling Zoom's timeline to return him to a powerless Hunter Zolomon.

This version of Zoom has not appeared in DC's reboot following Flashpoint.

Inertia[edit]

Inertia, in art from Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #5, by Ron Adrian
Thaddeus Thawne aka Inertia first appeared in Impulse #51, created by Todd DeZago and Mike Wieringo.

Inertia was a clone of Bart Allen. He originally fought Allen when he was Impulse. Later when Bart aged five years after Infinite Crisis and became the Flash, Inertia fought him again. Inertia was responsible for Allen's death and when Wally West returned he took revenge by paralyzing Inertia and putting him in the Flash Museum. During Final Crisis: Rogues' Revenge, he was used by Libra and Zoom to try to get the Rogues to join the new Secret Society. He stole Zoom's powers, called himself Kid Zoom, and was killed by the Rogues, who blamed him for making them kill Bart Allen.

When questioned as to who created Inertia, Ethan van Sciver wrote that he could only accept five percent of the credit. The rest was offered to Mike Wieringo (twenty percent), Grant Morrison (twenty-five percent) and Todd Dezago (fifty percent). He also states that Inertia's appearance is just Impulse's inverted, like a Reverse-Flash.[1] This fits the character's original role as a "Reverse-Impulse" created to antagonize the title character.

Inertia's initial appearance came in Impulse #50: "First Fool's" (July 1999), followed by #51: "It's All Relative" (August 1999). The most character development came in #53: "Threats" (October 1999). Inertia wasn't featured again until Impulse #62 and #66: "Mercury Falling" (July, November 2000). Inertia would not be notably featured again for half a decade.

Inertia then began making regular appearances, mostly due to his twin Bart Allen becoming The Flash. Inertia appeared in The Flash: The Fastest Man Alive #5: “Lightning in a Bottle, Part 5” (December 2006). Inertia acted as an antagonist to Allen.

In addition to his Flash appearances, Inertia made repeated appearances in Teen Titans (vol. 3). Teen Titans featured Inertia as part of an enemy team, Titans East. The story arc began in Teen Titans (vol. 3) #43 (January 2007). The arc concluded with Teen Titans (vol. 3) #46 (April 2007).

Inertia is primarily a speedster. He has not demonstrated any other speed-related powers, such as Bart's resilience to alterations in the time stream. For some time following Infinite Crisis, Inertia remained disconnected to the Speed Force. Instead, he injects himself with Velocity 9, a substance that helps him maintain his speed. Velocity 9 has been notoriously unstable in the past, but Deathstroke's new variant seems to offer no negative side effects. For a brief period before his death, he shares his powers with Zoom, who lends him his speed to pressure him into being a new Kid Flash. His attempt failed, Inertia turns into a maddened Kid Zoom, with absolute mastery over the individual timestream of a human being, able to revert Zoom to the powerless Hunter Zolomon before being killed by the assembled forces of the Rogues.

Daniel West[edit]
Daniel West appears at first in Flash #23 (of the New 52), garbed in a primarily black and red costume, as opposed to the yellow and red of previous Reverse-Flashes. Later, in Flash #23, he is revealed as Iris' brother, who received his powers from a freak combination of a Rogues attack and an incident which involved the Speed Force granting powers to several individuals. He desires to help Bart. Since in the current continuity Daniel broke his father's spine, making him a paraplegic and alienating Iris, he now desires to travel further back in time to kill his father before that incident, altering the timeline and regaining Iris' affection.

While the previous Reverse-Flashes only wore a costume, Daniel West wears armor that he can control, made from shrapnel from the Speed Force-supercharged monorail that was destroyed in the incident which gave him his powers.

Tangent Comics[edit]

The evil Reverse-Flash from Tangent Comics.
In DC's Tangent Comics reality, Reverse Flash is an evil holographic duplicate of Lia Nelson (the Flash), created by a sinister government agency. She was charged with negative ionic energy to disperse Flash's photon-based form. However Flash's lightwave powers outmatched Reverse-Flash's and Reverse-Flash was destroyed. This Reverse Flash only appeared in one issue, Tangent Comics: The Flash (December 1997).

In other media[edit]
Television[edit]
Reverse-Flash was alluded to in the live action series The Flash (1990). In the episode "Done With Mirrors", Barry Allen temporarily takes the pseudonym 'Professor Zoom' while investigating the Mirror Master. In the episode "Twin Streaks", scientist Jason Bressell and his assistant Ted Witcome create a clone of Barry they name Pollux. Though this blue-suited character bears a resemblance to the Reverse-Flash, Pollux has no direct relation to any comic anti-Flash, instead being more along similar lines of Bizarro and lacks any true malice, instead being more childlike in his actions and mannerisms.
In the Justice League Unlimited episode "Divided We Fall", Lex Luthor/Brainiac creates robotic copies of the Justice Lords, the Justice League's villainous alternate universe counterparts. Since the Flash of that alternate reality died before the Lords were formed, Brainiac/Luthor creates a Flash duplicate (voiced by Michael Rosenbaum) wearing the Reverse-Flash's red-on-yellow costume and acting like Zoom while fighting Flash (Wally West).
Reverse-Flash made an appearance in the Robot Chicken episode "Losin' the Wobble" voiced by Seth Green. He is seen robbing a bank, while Flash, Superman and Wonder Woman stand idly by, commenting about how "lame" they think opposite-themed villains like Reverse-Flash, Bizarro and Negative Wonder Woman are. In the Robot Chicken DC Comics Special 2: Villains in Paradise, Reverse-Flash (voiced by Matthew Senreich) is seen with the Legion of Doom.
The Professor Zoom version of Reverse Flash made his first full on-screen appearance in the Batman: The Brave and the Bold episode "Requiem for a Scarlet Speedster!" voiced by 1990 TV Flash star John Wesley Shipp. The episode is an allusion to the printed page "Crisis on Infinite Earthes" mini-series in which Allen has disappeared and is presumed dead after a large energy cloud crisis. Jay Garrirk and Wally West have been protecting Central City since Allen's disappearance. When Batman arrives in Central to subdues Captain Cold, Mirror Master and Weather Wizard, a ghost like apparition of Allen's Flash is seen by Batman and Garrick. Investigating the Allen "ghost", Batman, Garrick and West follow it into the 25th century (Zoom's home era) where they find Allen has been trapped by Zoom and is being used as an enhancement to Zoom's own speed as well as proving enhanced speed to Zoom's army of stormtroopers. Batman destroys the enhancement devices while Garrick and West provide Allen with the means to defeat Zoom.

Tom Cavanagh as Eobard Thawne/Reverse-Flash in the television series The Flash.
Eobard Thawne / Reverse-Flash appears in the 2014 TV series The Flash played by Tom Cavanagh and Matt Letscher, marking the live-action debut of the character. Letscher plays Eobard Thawne in his original look, while Cavanagh portrays both the original Harrison Wells and Thawne after he modifies himself to resemble Wells. Using Wells' identity, Thawne does not reveal his original identity until the 15th episode. Hailing from centuries into the future, Thawne became the archenemy of Barry Allen / The Flash and traveled back in time to 2000 to murder him when he was 11 years old. The elder Barry followed Thawne back in time and protected his younger self, so Eobard murdered his mother Nora instead. Eobard was stranded in the earlier time with bits of future technology, which he later used to kill and assume the identity of one Harrison Wells, a man he knew would someday become a famous scientist. He founded S.T.A.R. Labs and created a particle accelerator which he deliberately allowed to malfunction and release matter into Central City. His aim was to ensure that Barry Allen would become the Flash and eventually use his speed to return to his own time. He also worked with General Wade Eiling to create Gorilla Grodd. In the beginning of the series, when Barry becomes The Flash, Dr. Wells, along with his colleges Caitlin Snow and Cisco Ramon become part of his team to hunt down metahumans and Dr. Wells serves as the team leader, his confidant and his mentor teaching him to increase his speed. Eventually, he resumes the Reverse-Flash identity and confronts Barry as a means to motivate Barry to increase his efforts. Joe West becomes suspicious of Wells and investigates him, enlisting Cisco to help, who eventually discovers Wells' secret. However, Cisco is killed by Wells before the timeline is re-altered by Barry erasing Cisco's death. The alteration of the event also causes Barry to stumble upon the trail in Cisco's place and begin to be suspicious of Wells; eventually he realizes that Wells is his mother's killer.
Film[edit]
The Professor Zoom version of Reverse-Flash is the main antagonist in Justice League: The Flashpoint Paradox voiced by C. Thomas Howell. Inertia also appears in the movie as a display inside the Flash Museum.
Video games[edit]
Zoom appears in the Game Boy Advance and Nintendo DS game Justice League Heroes: The Flash as the fourth level boss.
Zoom appears as a mini-boss in DC Universe Online in the Gorilla Grodd Duos instance. He also appears as a world boss roaming Central City in the "Lightning Strikes" DLC.
Professor Zoom's Black Lantern appearance is an alternate skin for Flash (Barry Allen) in the video game Injustice: Gods Among Us.
Professor Zoom appears as a playable character in Lego Batman 3: Beyond Gotham.

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
superheroes still suck

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Lutha Mahtin posted:

yeah acupuncture works because you believe it works. so once you understand HOW it works, then it doesn't work for you anymore! haha owned

"the placebo effect" is great and under utilised and it can be as simple as me telling a patient that their low dose of gabapenton "is effective in many people" and the opposite is true too you can reduce efficacy by believing it won't work. the knowledge of this should be used throughout medicine

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

lol the bill Cosby article doesn't mention anything about the rapes in the intro section. you have to read down into a sub sub heading in the "personal life" section for any of that. because clearly people never use the fame or power of their career to manipulate victims or pressure law enforcement

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
In subsequent changes to the timeline, Zoom defected to the rebellion against Tremain led by Gorilla Grodd; turned into a gorilla fighting against an army of flying turtles led by Grodd, now a flying turtle himself; and was a gorilla in a modern society identical to that of ancient Egypt.[27]

Su-Su-Sudoko
Oct 25, 2007

what stands in the way becomes the way

echinopsis posted:

"the placebo effect" is great and under utilised and it can be as simple as me telling a patient that their low dose of gabapenton "is effective in many people" and the opposite is true too you can reduce efficacy by believing it won't work. the knowledge of this should be used throughout medicine

there's actually reason to think that the placebo effect is mainly research biases, both in the reporting by the patient and the physician
https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/placebo-effects-revisited/

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat
The video received critical acclaim and was a fan favorite as the video was fun and different from mainstream videos. The video features game character, which suppose to be Allen, to sport racing, playing tennis and overcome 'Super Mario' like-warrior style to earn engagement rings.

madeupfred
Oct 10, 2011

by FactsAreUseless

Boxturret posted:

In subsequent changes to the timeline, Zoom defected to the rebellion against Tremain led by Gorilla Grodd; turned into a gorilla fighting against an army of flying turtles led by Grodd, now a flying turtle himself; and was a gorilla in a modern society identical to that of ancient Egypt.[27]

Sniep
Mar 28, 2004

All I needed was that fatty blunt...



King of Breakfast
lmabbo its time for that guys ugly face again



doesnt the beg screens esclate from this one into the one with his face

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Lutha Mahtin posted:

do supplements of like gingko bilboa count as "homeopathic"? if so how is it impossible to test if there is or isn't the proper number of bilbos

(first one was an unintentional typo; decided to just run with it)

there was a recent scientific study where they used DNA sequencing to detect what actually was in major brands of herbal supplements.

welp,

The Guardian posted:

Overall, just 21% of the test results from store brand herbal supplements verified DNA from the plants listed on the labels. The retailer with the poorest showing was Walmart. Only 4% of the Walmart products tested showed DNA from the plants listed on the labels.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/03/herbal-supplements-investigation-store-brand-products

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice

axolotl farmer posted:

there was a recent scientific study where they used DNA sequencing to detect what actually was in major brands of herbal supplements.

welp,


http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/03/herbal-supplements-investigation-store-brand-products

and then gnc came out and said that it wasn't fair because their products were purified to the point that dna wasnt detectable

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

A Pinball Wizard posted:

and then gnc came out and said that it wasn't fair because their products were purified to the point that dna wasnt detectable

lololol

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
http://hrwiki.org/wiki/URLs_With_the_Number_2_In_Them

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

i get all my information from the homestar runner wiki

Lutha Mahtin
Oct 10, 2010

Your brokebrain sin is absolved...go and shitpost no more!

axolotl farmer posted:

there was a recent scientific study where they used DNA sequencing to detect what actually was in major brands of herbal supplements.

yes i am aware of this study, but the person I was quoting said it is actual scientifically not possible to even test this, which sounded just dumb as hell to me and which is why i questioned it

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

echinopsis posted:

legit wanna know what a natropath thinks about opium and magic mushrooms. i mean those are probably the two most worthwhile medicines on the entire planet and one is hyper illegal while the other regulated to hell.
uh opium is literally heroin

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice

Sham bam bamina! posted:

uh opium is literally heroin

1. no it's not (heroin is derived from opium)
2. that was his point (people have gotten arrested just for growing poppies in the US)

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

Please leave the room if you think this might offend you.
Grimey Drawer

Lutha Mahtin posted:

yes i am aware of this study, but the person I was quoting said it is actual scientifically not possible to even test this, which sounded just dumb as hell to me and which is why i questioned it

you can most def tell what's in something like that by testing it. the only problem with testing a "homeopathic" remedy is if it's too dilute to even have enough molecules of gingko or whatever dna in it to test

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

yeah you can do dna extraction in your kitchen with meat tenderizer and rubbing alcohol. there's no process I can think of that would denature the dna but leave cells and proteins intact. so if you presumably have your cellular sample and enough restriction enzymes there's no reason you can't do those tests except for homeopathy like trig said.

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Sham bam bamina! posted:

uh opium is literally heroin

a lot of reasons that its not literally heroin althouhg close to heroin, but people dont tend to inject opium. its smoked so the exposure is a lot more controlled, as in, you have too much? you stop inhaling and you are sweet.

its an very effective painkiller. its 100% natural
im curious as to whether or not naturpaths would consider it "good but cant use it" or "woah thats drugs"

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer

theflyingexecutive posted:

yeah you can do dna extraction in your kitchen with meat tenderizer and rubbing alcohol.

or you can do it in the bedroom with some astroglide and a wad of tissue paper

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer

echinopsis posted:

its 100% natural

ah, the three most meaningless words in the english language

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

Trig Discipline posted:

or you can do it in the bedroom with some astroglide and a wad of tissue paper

I guess you could, I'm more experienced in dna injection

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!

Trig Discipline posted:

ah, the three most meaningless words in the english language

i have felt like this for a while but it's nice to have a doctor that agrees

axolotl farmer
May 17, 2007

Now I'm going to sing the Perry Mason theme

Lutha Mahtin posted:

yes i am aware of this study, but the person I was quoting said it is actual scientifically not possible to even test this, which sounded just dumb as hell to me and which is why i questioned it

they weren't testing homepathic stuff. actual herbal supplements that's supposed to actually contain herbs.

homeopathic stuff isn't supposed to contain a single molecule of the active substance. they're supposed to work by retaining the 'vibrational memory' of the active substance. homeopathy is that stupid.

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
i think i got tested by a homeopathic """doctor""" when i was younger for allergies or something for some reason

they had this machine that you put these little vials in that they said had the "essence" of things and just by pressing this metal contact thing on your hand they said they could tell if you were allergic to something

so they had like a dozen identical empty vials that had the "essence" of dairy or meat or citrus fruits

Gus Hobbleton
Dec 30, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
that actually is kind of the way allergies are tested. allergies to substances are usually caused by a single protein or molecule within that substance, rather than the substance as a whole. when i got tested for my allergies it was literally just vials of clear fluid that they pricked into my arm with a needle, and boy howdy did they loving BURN

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

there's actually a scientific basis to using a very very small concentration of something to subvert allergic reactions to that thing, but at the mili to microgram level, not the atomic/less than atomic level

EMILY BLUNTS
Jan 1, 2005

it also doesn't involve some kind of scientology-level skin galvanometer reading reactions to the vibrations of nearby plant auras in tubes of water

OldAlias
Nov 2, 2013

something something [unsubstantiated claim] something vibrations something quantum

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Trig Discipline posted:

ah, the three most meaningless words in the english language

qutie true unfortch. i know the difference. i guess most people i tell it too wouldnt

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

OldAlias posted:

something something [unsubstantiated claim] something vibrations something quantum
something something energy

theflyingexecutive
Apr 22, 2007

if homeopathic principles worked, you would instantly cure all disease by drinking any water

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
not really. i mean homeopathy is bullshit but thats not really how it would work if it were true.

Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer

Sham bam bamina! posted:

something something energy

something toxins

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Trig Discipline
Jun 3, 2008

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Grimey Drawer
i really wish teh food babe didn't use that name because when you say something like "the food babe is a goddamned idiot" it has this whiff of sexism about it that somewhat distracts from the point that she is an actual goddamned idiot

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