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I can't see better public broadcasting happening any time soon. RNZ's funding has been effectively cut for this entire Government, and the unprofitable TVNZ channels got killed off. Maori TV is basically all there is. I just find it weird that in the era of the 24H news cycle we've opted to ignore current affairs for light entertainment, and that the non-Crown owned network tends to do a better job. Apparently the Scandawegian countries have TV licence fees, based on the UK model. Also an American documentary about Paul Henry is being released tomorrow, and it might not be flattering at all: http://thespinoff.co.nz/11-04-2015/a-spinoff-exclusive-paul-henry-has-a-secret-feature-film-debuting-in-florida/
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Apr 11, 2015 06:50
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I don't get Paul Henry at all. He's just not very interesting. The media keeps shoving him in my face all "HE'S IN YOUR FACE, HE APOLOGISES FOR NOTHING" but he's just some boring white dude with a laugh like a gas leak.
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Apr 11, 2015 06:59
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klen dool posted:Just because your primary goal is to make money, doesn't mean that it should be your only goal. In fact, having a single focus makes you, well, anti social. I don't mean "bad at relating to others" - I mean "anti society". If someone says something abhorrent, pointing out that its natural for that person to say that abhorrent thing does not excuse the person. Oh absolutely I agree that corporate social responsibility is important, but there is no point doing something for the public interest if it means you're hurting your own business. It's a matter of balance. SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I don't get Paul Henry at all. He's just not very interesting. The media keeps shoving him in my face all "HE'S IN YOUR FACE, HE APOLOGISES FOR NOTHING" but he's just some boring white dude with a laugh like a gas leak. He's the broadcasting equiv of marmite.
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Apr 11, 2015 07:30
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:I don't get Paul Henry at all. He's just not very interesting. The media keeps shoving him in my face all "HE'S IN YOUR FACE, HE APOLOGISES FOR NOTHING" but he's just some boring white dude with a laugh like a gas leak. He's not afraid to say what we* are all really thinking. *idiots
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Apr 11, 2015 08:03
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Ratios and Tendency posted:He's not afraid to say what we* are all really thinking.
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Apr 11, 2015 08:39
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Heh, I don't even own a tv 
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Apr 11, 2015 11:59
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puchu posted:Oh absolutely I agree that corporate social responsibility is important, but there is no point doing something for the public interest if it means you're hurting your own business. It's a matter of balance. Acting like a psychopath is not balance. There is most certainly a point in doing something despite it hurting your business, because money isn't as important as a lot of other things.
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Apr 11, 2015 12:11
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Going back to the ratings/Campbell Live thing, I hadn't actually looked at the numbers but where's this "campbell live ratings are in freefall" thing coming from?  Campbell Live has held pretty consistent for the past 3 years, and look at how many viewers TV1 lose compared to TV3 when their news program ends (200,000 compared to 15,000). I don't get why people are sayin this stuff.
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Apr 11, 2015 13:14
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Those aren't good stats for the point though. TV1 might lose 200,000 viewers in the transition to newstainment, but they still have 200,000 viewers more than TV3 - and Campbell Live doesn't exist in a vacuum against other news programming, it has to compete with everything in the 7pm slot and it's the weakest runner in that competition even if it's treading water. The 'freefall' comments are people looking at its 2013 performance as not a short performance spike, but what was the norm before viewers apparently started leaving it for Seven Sharp, given that its numbers go up as Campbell's return to their 2012 figures.
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Apr 11, 2015 13:39
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klen dool posted:Acting like a psychopath is not balance. There is most certainly a point in doing something despite it hurting your business, because money isn't as important as a lot of other things. It's not acting like a psychopath to say "a commercial channel needs to put on programmes that rate so the station can survive".
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Apr 11, 2015 23:19
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fong posted:Going back to the ratings/Campbell Live thing, I hadn't actually looked at the numbers but where's this "campbell live ratings are in freefall" thing coming from? What demographic is that? The key one is 25-54
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Apr 11, 2015 23:22
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puchu posted:The key one is 25-54 Do you know why this is, out of curiosity? Is it that people in their early 20's don't really watch tv, or is it that they don't have much purchasing power so aren't really relevant as far as advertising and news stories go?
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Apr 11, 2015 23:27
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they should still be informed, somehow. (if someone mentions reddit...)
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Apr 11, 2015 23:35
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puchu posted:What demographic is that? The key one is 25-54 I'm assuming from the numbers its overall viewing stats.
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Apr 11, 2015 23:45
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So, in other 3News, um, news... http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/67699811/tv3-to-reduce-sunday-6pm-news-bulletin-to-30-minutes
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Apr 12, 2015 01:29
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something something less informed public
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Apr 12, 2015 01:53
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fong posted:something something less informed public My television weather forecast 
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Apr 12, 2015 02:56
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Is it better to ignore the news and be uninformed, or watch/read it and be misinformed? I have no problem with shorter broadcasts. Prime manage to fit the same amount of news into half an hour every night, because nothing ever happens in New Zealand. Hopefully it means that there'll be much less of the stupid fluffy filler stories, advertorials, and clickbait style "<some sort of situation> COMING UP AFTER THE BREAK HERE'S WHAT HAPPENS NEXT" promos right?* *like hell it does.
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Apr 12, 2015 04:08
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Plenty happens in New Zealand. Corruption, Nepotism, Cronyism, Smear campaigns, transferring sovereignty to the States, environmental degradation, failing schools, widening class inequality, the encroach of neo-cons. To name a few. It's just not something a New Zealander would ever care about. e: Can't forget corporate deregulation and the fall of real wages! WarpedNaba fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Apr 12, 2015 |
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Apr 12, 2015 04:16
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Every segment will end with an exhortation to read more on their website, where you can catch up on all the latest news, movie reviews and hot celeb gossip you can handle.
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Apr 12, 2015 04:18
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WarpedNaba posted:Plenty happens in New Zealand. Corruption, Nepotism, Cronyism, Smear campaigns, transferring sovereignty to the States, environmental degradation, failing schools, widening class inequality, the encroach of neo-cons. To name a few. The simpsons did a pretty good examination of this. gently caress the important issues, people want human interest. Tell us about the duck ponds!
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Apr 12, 2015 04:44
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quote:His style has been dubbed “incremental radicalism”. But he is much more than an economic rationalist appealing to base self-interest. Like a Reagan or Thatcher, he is animated by a moral vision of an egalitarian nation of stable families where poor children like him can aspire to greatness though hard work.
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Apr 12, 2015 05:23
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quote:He’s privatised just about everything, and has cut billions out of the welfare system, not by being punitive but by encouraging people on welfare back into the workforce. Some Australians claim reform is easier for Key because he doesn’t have our recalcitrant Senate, but NZ’s absurd proportional representation system arguably makes governing more difficult. the gently caress do they find these people
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Apr 12, 2015 05:49
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How the gently caress has John Key 'privatised just about everything' What is this dribble
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Apr 12, 2015 06:00
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Butt Wizard posted:How the gently caress has John Key 'privatised just about everything' Behold the quality of the journalism put forth by the Dirty Digger's tabloid empire.
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Apr 12, 2015 06:06
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Is this person honestly saying that MMP sucks and that the executive should be given even more power? Based on the link they find them by being in Australia.
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Apr 12, 2015 06:19
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I don't know why you'd be surprised that a writer from a right wing tabloid doesn't like mmp.
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Apr 12, 2015 06:33
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A human heart posted:I don't know why you'd be surprised that a writer from a right wing tabloid doesn't like mmp. It's infinitely more likely that Australians can't understand MMP. My cousin staunchly believes that having layer upon layer of representative parliaments in Australia is a better system.
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Apr 12, 2015 06:56
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puchu posted:It's not acting like a psychopath to say "a commercial channel needs to put on programmes that rate so the station can survive". Yes, it is.
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Apr 12, 2015 07:10
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Next time I am hungry I will just stab someone who has a cheeseburger. I will literally die if I don't eat so I'm sure you'll find this reasonable.
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Apr 12, 2015 07:27
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Infotainment! posted:Next time I am hungry I will just stab someone who has a cheeseburger. I will literally die if I don't eat so I'm sure you'll find this reasonable. Normally you have to pay someone to stab the person with the cheeseburger for you.
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Apr 12, 2015 07:51
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Butt Wizard posted:How the gently caress has John Key 'privatised just about everything' Is this some new expression I haven't heard or are you trying to say "drivel"
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Apr 12, 2015 08:08
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Wandle Cax posted:Is this some new expression I haven't heard or are you trying to say "drivel" I suspect it's a phrase I've hosed up but still makes good enough sense, for all intensive purposes.
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Apr 12, 2015 08:26
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This week's Mediawatch, around 9:40 is interesting re: Campbell Live http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/player/20174412
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Apr 12, 2015 08:57
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Infotainment! posted:Next time I am hungry I will just stab someone who has a cheeseburger. I will literally die if I don't eat so I'm sure you'll find this reasonable. Nope. Not in the slightest. I have no idea why you'd think I would be okay with this.
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Apr 12, 2015 09:20
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klen dool posted:Yes, it is. If the news doesn't rate the rest of the night doesn't rate and then advertisers start demanding makegood which results in less inventory meaning less money coming in meaning the potential to not have a running station which means no news.
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Apr 12, 2015 09:22
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Infotainment! posted:Next time I am hungry I will just stab someone who has a cheeseburger. I will literally die if I don't eat so I'm sure you'll find this reasonable. What is this in reference to because by itself it makes no sense
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Apr 12, 2015 09:23
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You know what would rate well? a new local soap put opposite the incumbent well established local soap. What a stupid programming decision that would be.
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Apr 12, 2015 10:12
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So, uh, anyone catch the Thunderbirds remake today?
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Apr 12, 2015 10:20
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Wandle Cax posted:You know what would rate well? a new local soap put opposite the incumbent well established local soap. What a stupid programming decision that would be. Actually it could be quite smart - last year saw TVNZ learn from TV3's 2013 multi-night programming strategy with The Block and in 2015 they're both doing multi-night stuff to keep audiences tuned in. Of course, it could all fall apart. Who knows. WarpedNaba posted:So, uh, anyone catch the Thunderbirds remake today? Was Brains always Indian in the original series? Also I saw that pink Rolls Royce Lady Penelope was riding in and immediately thought 'Elton John??' which is a poor reflection on my train of thought tbh Slavvy posted:Do you know why this is, out of curiosity? Is it that people in their early 20's don't really watch tv, or is it that they don't have much purchasing power so aren't really relevant as far as advertising and news stories go? The short answer is that 25-54 is what TV1 and TV3 are both marketed to advertisers on; it's the main demographic that the channels are meant to attract. So when they look at ratings, it's an easy general benchmark used to compare. TV2 and FOUR target 18-49, so their content is different from TV1 and TV3. Purchasing power, that's not really taken in to account on the station side of things - in fact, because it's so much harder to get younger people to watch TV, the cost to advertisers is much higher to get those eyeballs. Of course because so many products and services are targeted at young people anyway (fast food, fizzy drinks, tampons are three I can think of immediately), advertisers are finding that TV is a medium for old (40+) people and they can get more cost-efficient ads on youtube. Traditional broadcasters have already started to move towards a content creator sort of role - because stuff that they used to be able to get from the US and air 6 months later has been completely usurped by the internet, and the only way to try to keep people watching is to make original stuff (original as in can't find anywhere else). Note how I said original, not necessarily 'good'...
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