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pseudanonymous posted:They're used in Incursions too, so your tank doesn't completely collapse under heavy neuting good point, yeah seems like anything pve related
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Dr. Pangloss posted:Looks like they were removed at the beginning of 2013, because CCP "doesn't like dual function modules". what a loving shame, it was a pretty cool function
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gwrtheyrn posted:I thought the point in incursions is to kill everything before neuts are a problem. Sure but maybe you want your 3b isk vindicator to not just explode if something weird happens.
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Apr 12, 2015 19:06
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pseudanonymous posted:Sure but maybe you want your 3b isk vindicator to not just explode if something weird happens. Maybe you shouldn't fly a 3b isk vindicator 
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PL have released the logs we got from BNI leadership. Doink's post on Zulu - http://forums.zulusquad.org/index.php?/topic/665-thus-spoke-brave-leadership/ Bonus logs of Elo's pickup game quote:Sunday, July 27, 2014: Elo Knight on his nеvеr ending quest to find virtuаl pussy Mekchu fucked around with this message at 19:23 on Apr 12, 2015 |
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Apr 12, 2015 19:20
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Unfunny Poster posted:PL have released the logs we got from BNI leadership. Eww
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Unfunny Poster posted:PL have released the logs we got from BNI leadership. For even more Brave reading, Doink is compiling all the reddit mad posts and propaganda of the recent coup. Warning: This is not bite sized http://forums.zulusquad.org/index.php?/topic/662-the-brave-affair/
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Apr 12, 2015 19:39
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In unrelated news, Orville Redenbacher have made millions over the past week.
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Apr 12, 2015 19:45
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So, uh, Fountain?
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pugnax posted:So, uh, Fountain? Bidding starts at 5T who wants it
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Apr 12, 2015 20:06
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Does this mean we're sending FA to that farm where it can play with all the animals. The same place we sent Old Yeler and Init?
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Apr 12, 2015 20:23
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Zephyrine posted:Does this mean we're sending FA to that farm where it can play with all the animals. The same place we sent Old Yeler and Init? FA lived in Pure Blind/Fade when I started playing, looks like everybody is getting rotated clockwise again.
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Apr 12, 2015 20:42
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Apr 12, 2015 20:45
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Zephyrine posted:Is fozzie sov really that bad? nope, dreads might maybe get a real purpose, like actually ratting / plexing in them. fleet fights more diverse, marauders being useful in pvp.
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Apr 12, 2015 20:55
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Zephyrine posted:Is fozzie sov really that bad? I'm gonna say yes because I don't understand it any more than I understand the current system
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Helpimscared posted:I'm gonna say yes because I don't understand it any more than I understand the current system current system, he with the most supers wins. new system, he with supers cant kill the frigates stealing all your sov. better reship.
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Apr 12, 2015 21:00
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Zephyrine posted:Is fozzie sov really that bad? "Everyone has to live in really dense empires now. We're leaving the extremely low number of people that a system can support the same, though." And it only gets better from there.
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Whose sov will fountain core carrier rat in now?
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Apr 12, 2015 21:04
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Does someone have chart on what it takes to conquer a station in fozzie sov as opposed to now?
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Zephyrine posted:Does someone have chart on what it takes to conquer a station in fozzie sov as opposed to now? 
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anyone have an ishtar / domi alt they can sell me? I dont really care how many SP it has so long as it has all the fitting / drone skills. hell id consider a myrmidon alt so long as it has t2 heavy drones
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CommonShore posted:Only for passive hardeners, so really only EM ever gets used, because it's the shield resistance hole, and it's used in incursions. I guess Kin/therm passives get used sometimes for guristas complexes which neut. Passive shield EM Wards get used for PvP too. Harpies and other frigate doctrines will use them to cover EM holes because the CPU and cap cost for an active hardener is more than they can handle, and Tengus will typically fit a passive hardener so they don't have a 0% EM hole under neut pressure. This is still an incredibly fringe use and I wouldn't train the skill until I had a specific need for the module in question.
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Apr 12, 2015 21:59
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It's a really short train to get it to 3 though. 6h is barely anything when it comes to training time, so it's still probably worth getting a couple ranks into unless you're just starting
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gwrtheyrn posted:It's a really short train to get it to 3 though. 6h is barely anything when it comes to training time, so it's still probably worth getting a couple ranks into unless you're just starting Yes, but a fringe use even of a couple ranks shouldn't preclude your being considered capable of flying a shield tanked ship, but that's exactly what the in-game ISIS dealie suggests, which is what we're discussing here.
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CommonShore posted:Yes, but a fringe use even of a couple ranks shouldn't preclude your being considered capable of flying a shield tanked ship, but that's exactly what the in-game ISIS dealie suggests, which is what we're discussing here. I don't really think anyone has ever recommended strictly following any skill guides that have been in game because they always include useless poo poo. Certs were just as bad if not worse
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gwrtheyrn posted:I don't really think anyone has ever recommended strictly following any skill guides that have been in game because they always include useless poo poo. Certs were just as bad if not worse which is what we're discussing here
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gwrtheyrn posted:It's a really short train to get it to 3 though. 6h is barely anything when it comes to training time, so it's still probably worth getting a couple ranks into unless you're just starting I have literally never fit a passive shield hardener other than EM to anything, ever, and I probably never will.
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i would say it helps give guidance to passive skills that are not used as requirements. IE: Armor layering... this skill is not required by anything else to my knowledge, but does give a bonus to mobility and sig. However, just reading over all the skills for your class will help accomplish an understanding of all passive skills. So mehh, guess ISIS is kind of retarded.
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I use ISIS to figure out what that really cool ship was I saw somewhere and what skills I need to fly that thing. Then I check the MB and forget about it until the next cool ship comes along.
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Voyager I posted:I have literally never fit a passive shield hardener other than EM to anything, ever, and I probably never will. Let's talk about MY RATTLESNAKE
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Zephyrine posted:Does this mean we're sending FA to that farm where it can play with all the animals. The same place we sent Old Yeler and Init? What is happening with FA? They're being moved out of Fountain or something? Hexel posted:FA lived in Pure Blind/Fade when I started playing, looks like everybody is getting rotated clockwise again. FA was at its strongest while in Fade/Pure blind. Fountain is way too hardcore for them, so it might not be a bad thing for them to move out.
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Dalael posted:What is happening with FA? They're being moved out of Fountain or something? There was a ping earlier that mentioned us moving out of Fountain before FozzieSov. Anyone outside of Illum and trusted circles really doesn't understand what exactly that means.. but there's a ton of speculation and guessing. We're all just waiting for the CEO Update that is coming in the next few days.
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Voyager I posted:I have literally never fit a passive shield hardener other than EM to anything, ever, and I probably never will. Kinetic amps occasionally see use on Broadswords. Also, if you run anomalies in Serpentis space, you'll keep a few kin/therm passive hardeners around. A lot of the high-end Serpentis anomalies have multiple capital neut towers that will instantly cap you out, and keep you there until they die (or you do); a purger-fit Tengu with pithum resist amps works wonders there. The real issue is that Minmatar T2 ships are the only shield ships that don't have EM holes -- and in their case, they have relatively few mids and relatively small kin holes, so you're better off filling it with a +kin shield rig and using those mids for tackle/prop/invulns.
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So should I continue to ignore these skills or just train them to three in case?
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darth cookie posted:How so? I know there was some pretty thorough trolling by multiple parties during his CSM bid. What was your finishing blow? I posted a thread to reddit with a screencap of him on failheap claiming that goons had put bees in his niece's backpack with threatening notes dedicated to him. This was immediately after a bunch of people were discrediting his CSM run. He credited me with being the straw that broke the camel's back and gave his assets away and biomassed the character. The top comment from Kcolor is worth reading: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2uxptw/in_honour_of_marlona_sky_dropping_csm_lets/
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DanoTuka posted:There was a ping earlier that mentioned us moving out of Fountain before FozzieSov. Anyone outside of Illum and trusted circles really doesn't understand what exactly that means.. but there's a ton of speculation and guessing. We're all just waiting for the CEO Update that is coming in the next few days. The same reason we dumped delve/pb/q
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Love dunking on red loki fleets miniluv best luv
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Bilirubin posted:So should I continue to ignore these skills or just train them to three in case? Train EM Shield Compensation to III or IV since we actively use that one and ignore the others. If you think of it in a market hub you can inject them and just leave them at zero so you don't have to go get a book in the unlikely event you ever fly a ship that requires them (which will probably be some incredibly focused ratting boat).
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Bilirubin posted:So should I continue to ignore these skills or just train them to three in case? Train EM Shield Compensation to 4, leave the rest at three. Later, when you're 150M+ SP and have nothing better to train, train EM Shield Compensation to 5, leave the rest at 4.
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Foehammer007 posted:The same reason we dumped delve/pb/q Well, sure. The reasoning behind it is solid, too much Sov is not a good thing. What I meant was more along the lines of where the Southern CFC will end up. There's a lot of space between Fountain and Tenal.
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