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Dang's list seems really good other than its weakness to BB and Plague. The high non-creature count makes Swiftspear and Become Immense good, while all the tokens mean that Foundry Street and Atarka's Command work too. I also like having just one Lightning Berserker, it seems like a very lame thing to draw in multiples.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Dang's list seems really good other than its weakness to BB and Plague. The high non-creature count makes Swiftspear and Become Immense good, while all the tokens mean that Foundry Street and Atarka's Command work too. I also like having just one Lightning Berserker, it seems like a very lame thing to draw in multiples. My main fear with a deck like that is Bile Blight, and that's part of the reason why I don't really like running both Fodder AND Outburst in the deck. I imagine the deck will become even more popular after this and people will sideboard appropriately.
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hahahaha two Whisperwood Elementals countered by two Scorns, then Icefall Regent -> Killed by Atarka's ETB -> Atarka stolen by Silumgar -> Silumgar killed by second Atarka's ETB -> second Atarka stolen by second Silumgar. that was the best game ever
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Watching the Shota v Ondrej replay and LSV notes how since it doesn't play early card draw in Divination because it's a sorcery, it can be a slog for the UB deck to make sure 3-land keeps hit all their land drops. I was shocked to check out the decklist and confirm it doesn't play a single Anticipate which would seem exactly what this deck wants. edit: like, that was the entire reason Anticipate was heralded as one of the most impactful cards from DTK for these UB decks, because it's an instant that plays nice with the draw-go counter/removal plan and helps smooth out their mana early so they can get away with 26 lands. seems weird that Shota and Adrian couldn't (or chose not to) make room for a single copy MiddleEastBeast fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Apr 12, 2015 |
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I've been on a break from Magic but Anticipate reminds me a bit of Ponder in that its a really good card but nonethless saw 0 play in the dominant U/W control decks of Shards-Zendikar standard, basically only showing up in t2 combo decks where the card selection was super important. U/B control has enough redundancy that I can see why decks wouldn't find space for it.
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Watching the Shota v Ondrej replay and LSV notes how since it doesn't play early card draw in Divination because it's a sorcery, it can be a slog for the UB deck to make sure 3-land keeps hit all their land drops. I was shocked to check out the decklist and confirm it doesn't play a single Anticipate which would seem exactly what this deck wants. I think the fact that its nothing more than card selection for 2 mana means they didn't value it very highly in a field they likely presumed would have a ton of mono-red aggro. Edit: Dragonlord Atarka at 19 bucks now. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 02:44 on Apr 13, 2015 |
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Surrak has also given green decks an aggressive edge that makes it harder to just ignore their board for a turn.
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vintage tdome feature match is starting up soon at http://twitch.tv/gangsines
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Equilibrium posted:I've been on a break from Magic but Anticipate reminds me a bit of Ponder in that its a really good card but nonethless saw 0 play in the dominant U/W control decks of Shards-Zendikar standard, basically only showing up in t2 combo decks where the card selection was super important. U/B control has enough redundancy that I can see why decks wouldn't find space for it. So why did every pro lie to us during spoiler season and say Anticipate was the most important card from DTK for control decks and that it would slot in immediately as a 4-of? Why did they lie ;_;
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I went back and watched Dang's annihilation of the tournament and I have to say it was satisfying to see him steamroll three consecutive control decks the way he did. All three Game 1's were beautiful.
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The token generators really put pressure on you to have your sweepers early and often if you are in UB. it's really hard to keep up with a bunch of largely interchangeable creatures with your spot removal. Maybe good ol' Nyx Fleece Ram makes a come back in the boards of Wx control if that build really takes off. 5 toughness and ticking life gain is a bit of stop sign there. Forces the burn into your dork instead of your face.
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Alaan posted:The token generators really put pressure on you to have your sweepers early and often if you are in UB. it's really hard to keep up with a bunch of largely interchangeable creatures with your spot removal. Maybe good ol' Nyx Fleece Ram makes a come back in the boards of Wx control if that build really takes off. 5 toughness and ticking life gain is a bit of stop sign there. Forces the burn into your dork instead of your face. While you aren't wrong, my first thought was "Another target for Roast.  "
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I think a UB deck will be pretty happy if you're bringing in Roast against them.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I think a UB deck will be pretty happy if you're bringing in Roast against them. Especially to kill your Nyx Fleece Ram you can't even cast. Value!
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Obviously you're splashing white for Narset.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I think a UB deck will be pretty happy if you're bringing in Roast against them. I was thinking of a more threat-heavy deck; against a Control deck I would just leave in Heelcutter and bring in Break Through the Line and hope to draw them.
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I've noticed that one of the stronger lines of play for red decks is to win the roll and be on the play first, so I would try to see about that.
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rabidsquid posted:I've noticed that one of the stronger lines of play for red decks is to win the roll and be on the play first, so I would try to see about that. Winning on the roll is literally, after all, a time walk.
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rabidsquid posted:I've noticed that one of the stronger lines of play for red decks is to win the roll and be on the play first, so I would try to see about that. RDW probably relies on that more than any other deck in the format because any deck with black becomes really tough to win on the draw post-sideboard. Blue decks hitting Dissolve mana before you hit Outburst/Rabble mana can also be pretty tough. I know that all sounds obvious but I guess I was unironically agreeing with you? 
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There was a video series someone posted in here a while back that was just someone testing out a bunch of modern ban-list cards and seeing whether they'd be valid unbans. Anyone have a link to that anywhere?
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Death Bot posted:There was a video series someone posted in here a while back that was just someone testing out a bunch of modern ban-list cards and seeing whether they'd be valid unbans. Anyone have a link to that anywhere? It's Caleb Durward and the video series is somewhere on Channel Fireball. Go forth, goon, with your new found knowledge.
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I do find the CFB website kindof awkward to navigate so here's my bookmark. http://www.channelfireball.com/tag/the-modern-banned-series/ And this one includes the legacy ones, in which Caleb Durward loses to Show and Tell every week. http://www.channelfireball.com/tag/the-banned-series/
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My big takeaway from the banned series is that no matter what, Hypergenesis can never, ever come off the banlist.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:My big takeaway from the banned series is that no matter what, Hypergenesis can never, ever come off the banlist. That, and that Black Vise is utter poo poo lol
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Was that the one where Caleb got bored and started talking about anime
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:My big takeaway from the banned series is that no matter what, Hypergenesis can never, ever come off the banlist. Yeah, I went into that one with a pretty good idea that the takeaway would be "Hypergenesis is loving stupid", and my expectations were blown away. If they could only have one card in Modern banned, Hypergenesis would probably be it.
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The Lord of Hats posted:Yeah, I went into that one with a pretty good idea that the takeaway would be "Hypergenesis is loving stupid", and my expectations were blown away. If they could only have one card in Modern banned, Hypergenesis would probably be it. Skullclamp by a mile, but Hypergenesis probably beats out the cantrips and the rest.
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Nice job. Is Skaab Ruinator common tech for Modern 'folk or something you came up with?
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MiddleEastBeast posted:Nice job. Is Skaab Ruinator common tech for Modern 'folk or something you came up with? Hah, no, Skaabs were the dork I beat in the second round of Top 8's idea. They certainly got work done against the UWR Control matchup, my only 0-2 loss of the tournament that he won. I was the idiot with a 14-card sideboard who stumbled in because I promised to drive a friend there (ironically round 1 was both of us on stream) and never left because the other store in town's draft never fired. 8 rounds later I'm a State Champion  e: oh he's also a goon but idk if he reads this thread Four Score fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Apr 13, 2015 |
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Duneblast into Ugin #JustPhantomSealedThings
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Can you post your decklist?
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rabidsquid posted:I've noticed that one of the stronger lines of play for red decks is to win the roll and be on the play first, so I would try to see about that. As a control player, the opening die roll seriously does often decide a match against RDW. I kind of wonder if WotC thinks that's a good thing or if they think that means RDW or control are in a bad place.
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Easily the strongest pool for RDW in a long time. Legit decent and not just the best you can do for $100. And while control clearly isn't awful it's not at its highest point and the rest of the format is casting windmill slams which require very different answers.
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What state?
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Nice, congratulations! 
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mcmagic posted:What state? Alaska
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mcmagic posted:What state? It says on the medal dude.
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jassi007 posted:It says on the medal dude. Oh lol I didn't expand the picture. Congrads Four Score.
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You're not allowed to win this medal except by playing Quinn the Eskimo.
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