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Skyl3lazer posted:As a control player, the opening die roll seriously does often decide a match against RDW. I kind of wonder if WotC thinks that's a good thing or if they think that means RDW or control are in a bad place.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Is your plan against RDW really to try and win G1? If you tune your main deck to be better against aggro then other control decks it's certainly possible. In this meta it seems like you'll have to plan on aggro game 1.
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Apr 13, 2015 15:36
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That's a fair point. It kindof seems like a rock-paper-scissors metagame in general, the challenge will be to design your deck so that it can perform well against multiple archetypes.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Is your plan against RDW really to try and win G1? "Scoop game 1 and try to win the next two" isn't exactly a winning strategy regardless of how stacked your sideboard is. The PT control decks (well, the winning ones, at least) were set up in a such a way as to make them big favourites against midrange, accepting a rather poor fast-aggro matchup to achieve that. This is a meta call (basically predicting that aggro would be pushed out by the midrange decks), but it would be a huge mistake to make the same call when picking a deck for a more local tournament.
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Apr 13, 2015 15:49
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mcmagic posted:Thinking of taking RDW to Gameday with 4x Searing Blood main board and just rape the mirror.... Stop that nonsense dude.
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mcmagic posted:Thinking of taking RDW to Gameday with 4x Searing Blood main board and just COOLWORD the mirror.... I thought you knew better than to use the COOLWORD. Gameday is the 19th, right?
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mcmagic posted:Thinking of taking RDW to Gameday with 4x Searing Blood main board and just rape the mirror.... 
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Apr 13, 2015 15:52
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Count Bleck posted:I thought you knew better than to use the COOLWORD. 18th and 19th? Madmarker posted:Stop that nonsense dude. Really? Are we really that sensitive? I'm clearly not talking about actual rape here...
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Apr 13, 2015 15:53
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Saturday and Sunday, yeah. I'm gonna take RDW wins too. Don't think I'll be able to splash for green though.
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Apr 13, 2015 15:54
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mcmagic posted:18th and 19th? You're a loving idiot.
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Apr 13, 2015 15:54
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En Fuego posted:You're a loving idiot. Sigh...
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En Fuego posted:You're a loving idiot. Of all the dumb poo poo McMagic says you focus on this? Stop the fake outrage. Stop trying to be offended by everything. Jesus christ.
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Sickening posted:Of all the dumb poo poo McMagic says you focus on this? Stop the fake outrage. Stop trying to be offended by everything. Jesus christ. No. gently caress that. Don't use that loving term. How hard is it to be a reasonable human being? Grab a thesaurus and get educated.
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McMagic: The McGathering: McMegathread: I'm Not Talking about Actual Rape
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Sickening posted:Of all the dumb poo poo McMagic says you focus on this? Stop the fake outrage. Stop trying to be offended by everything. Jesus christ. How about we don't compare a thing that happens in a friendly game with sexual violence?
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En Fuego posted:No. gently caress that. Don't use that loving term. How hard is it to be a reasonable human being? Grab a thesaurus and get educated. I had no intention of starting this dumb argument. I was just making a post about gameday this weekend and this is the last i'm going to address this sidetrack but you're a overly sensitive douchebag who is willfully ignoring context in order to be fake outraged by a completely non offensive post. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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mcmagic posted:Most people who play magic are very weird, or assholes or both. I don't think there is anything unique about the way women are treated at magic shops that is any different from the times myself or friends of mine have been treated badly. mcmagic posted:rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape rape GEE WILLIKERS GUYS, WHY DON'T GIRLS LIKE PLAYING SWEET WIZARD POKER WITH US?
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See the last few posts for a good example of why I'm embarrassed to tell people in public that I even know what MTG is.
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Sickening posted:Of all the dumb poo poo McMagic says you focus on this? Stop the fake outrage. Stop trying to be offended by everything. Jesus christ. gently caress you dude, I have friends and relatives who have been victims of that poo poo. I work in a field where I see victims of that poo poo frequently as well. I don't want to have to deal with fuckwits using the term as if it is some meaningless bullshit. I don't have to manufacture offense for something which is inherently offensive. mcmagic posted:I had no intention of starting this dumb argument. I was just making a post about gameday this weekend and this is the last i'm going to address this sidetrack but you're a overly sensitive douchebag who is willfully ignoring context in order to be fake outraged by a completely non offensive post. There is no amount of context that makes that an acceptable term, outside of describing the actual action and event. It's like saying you totally lynched that guy with your Red Deck Wins deck. Its offensive. Don't be a dick. Madmarker fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Apr 13, 2015 |
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mcmagic posted:I had no intention of starting this dumb argument. I was just making a post about gameday this weekend and this is the last i'm going to address this sidetrack but you're a overly sensitive douchebag who is willfully ignoring context in order to be fake outraged by a completely non offensive post. I had no intention of perpetuating this dumb argument. I was just making a post about how your word choice is less than desirable because it compares a crime to a game but you're an overly sensitive douchebag who is willfully ignoring context in order to be fake outraged by a series of actual outrage posts.
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It's you. You're the person Gaby Spartz wrote the article about.
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I'm thinking of making an effort to head up to Charlotte in June for the GP, but I've little experience in Modern. It looks like the deck I'll probably be building is Burn, as it's cheap, fun, and definitely a strong contender in the meta. The thing is, though, between my friend and I we pretty much have all the stuff for creatureless burn. Does anyone have any experience with the deck, and can verify whether there are any pros or cons to running the usual creatures with burn? I know Goblin Guide and Eidolon are pretty sweet on their own and are obviously well suited in the deck, but if I don't need them for the deck to work perfectly well then I may just forego them for now. I'd ask this question in the Burn thread for Modern on MTGS, but.....no.
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mcmagic posted:Really? Are we really that sensitive? I'm clearly not talking about actual rape here... Because you seem to be a guy that plays Magic, as a Judge, I'm going to give you a hint. I could give you at least a Warning for USC - Minor, just for saying the word, and it's not a stretch to go to USC - Major (penalty is Match Loss), just for that. With your "Really? Are we really that sensitive?" response, that can go up to a DQ, because, and I quote the IPG here, "If the offense was committed with malicious intent, the player displays no remorse, or the offense is repeated at a later time, the penalty is upgraded to Disqualification and removal from the venue." Yes, the DQ is a stretch, but if you'd said what you just did in a tournament, I wouldn't be surprised if you were looking at a Match Loss. That poo poo is Not OK.
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With my new sideboard I'm going to lynch some darkies e: I had no intention of being called racist when I wrote this post
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InterrupterJones posted:I'm thinking of making an effort to head up to Charlotte in June for the GP, but I've little experience in Modern. It looks like the deck I'll probably be building is Burn, as it's cheap, fun, and definitely a strong contender in the meta. The thing is, though, between my friend and I we pretty much have all the stuff for creatureless burn. Does anyone have any experience with the deck, and can verify whether there are any pros or cons to running the usual creatures with burn? I know Goblin Guide and Eidolon are pretty sweet on their own and are obviously well suited in the deck, but if I don't need them for the deck to work perfectly well then I may just forego them for now. Burn without Goblin Guide would be awful and pointless. Imagine a burn spell that said R: 4 damage to target player. You're basically forgoing that a good portion of the time by not running the Guide.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:With my new sideboard I'm going to lynch some darkies This will go great in my all Harold McNeil Artwork EDH Deck.
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mcmagic posted:I had no intention of starting this dumb argument. I was just making a post about gameday this weekend and this is the last i'm going to address this sidetrack but you're a overly sensitive douchebag who is willfully ignoring context in order to be fake outraged by a completely non offensive post. No, he isn't. Your a greasy loving neckbeard who thinks its ok to use rape because I don't really mean it right guys? Its just us bro's talking here. it isn't ok, not on the internet, not at the local store, not if there are no girls around or if there are. It isn't ok at all.
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Lottery of Babylon posted:With my new sideboard I'm going to lynch some darkies 4x  + 4x 
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InterrupterJones posted:I'm thinking of making an effort to head up to Charlotte in June for the GP, but I've little experience in Modern. It looks like the deck I'll probably be building is Burn, as it's cheap, fun, and definitely a strong contender in the meta. The thing is, though, between my friend and I we pretty much have all the stuff for creatureless burn. Does anyone have any experience with the deck, and can verify whether there are any pros or cons to running the usual creatures with burn? I know Goblin Guide and Eidolon are pretty sweet on their own and are obviously well suited in the deck, but if I don't need them for the deck to work perfectly well then I may just forego them for now. I'd say that if you go creatureless, you should consider splashing either green or white for destructive revelry or wear/tear in the board, since without creatures you just scoop to leyline of sanctity.
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Starving Autist posted:I'd say that if you go creatureless, you should consider splashing either green or white for destructive revelry or wear/tear in the board, since without creatures you just scoop to leyline of sanctity. I'd say he shouldn't go creatureless at all, it's the creatures that finally managed to put burn on the map.
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InterrupterJones posted:I'm thinking of making an effort to head up to Charlotte in June for the GP, but I've little experience in Modern. It looks like the deck I'll probably be building is Burn, as it's cheap, fun, and definitely a strong contender in the meta. The thing is, though, between my friend and I we pretty much have all the stuff for creatureless burn. Does anyone have any experience with the deck, and can verify whether there are any pros or cons to running the usual creatures with burn? I know Goblin Guide and Eidolon are pretty sweet on their own and are obviously well suited in the deck, but if I don't need them for the deck to work perfectly well then I may just forego them for now. You need Eidolon and Guide. Guide is almost always R deal 4 dmg to target player. It is better than lightning bolt a great majority of the time. Also, it has the joy of sucking their removal out, then you slam the eidolon and they can often be 100% screwed. Eidolon is the greatest thing to happen to burn in a long time, it is why its tier 1.
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Starving Autist posted:I'd say that if you go creatureless, you should consider splashing either green or white for destructive revelry or wear/tear in the board, since without creatures you just scoop to leyline of sanctity. The thing is Goblin Guide doesn't really keep you from losing to leyline since it's so incredibly unlikely to do more than 4 points of damage. Basically this shouldn't be a consideration. Goblin Guide isn't really in the deck because the pilot is afraid of losing to leyline. (Just play goblin guide)
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mcmagic posted:Really? Are we really that sensitive? I'm clearly not talking about actual rape here... Even if that wasn't your intent, it's still something you should never, ever casually joke about, especially when there are a billion other words that you can use. Skyl3lazer posted:As a control player, the opening die roll seriously does often decide a match against RDW. I kind of wonder if WotC thinks that's a good thing or if they think that means RDW or control are in a bad place. I mentioned it earlier, but game 1 against Control really is important for the RDW player because you get to bring in Bile Blight, Drown in Sorrows, etc. (or at least max out on them) in games 2 and 3.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Burn without Goblin Guide would be awful and pointless. That's what I was thinking. I guess he's just too good at his job not to include. Starving Autist posted:I'd say that if you go creatureless, you should consider splashing either green or white for destructive revelry or wear/tear in the board, since without creatures you just scoop to leyline of sanctity. That's the idea. It won't be straight burn, most likely RW/g to have Charms, Keening Appartions, etc. Might even have to include Deflecting Palm if I see enough Emrakuls being Through the Breach'd. 
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InterrupterJones posted:That's the idea. It won't be straight burn, most likely RW/g to have Charms, Keening Appartions, etc. Might even have to include Deflecting Palm if I see enough Emrakuls being Through the Breach'd. The problem with getting cute with too many non-proactive cards is you just put more mulligans in your deck. When you have cards that don't just read do 3 damage or do 4 damage you're really cutting into the critical mass part of the deck.
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Yeah in Burn you pretty much want every single spell in your deck to just deal damage to your opponent. Otherwise you just don't get there.bhsman posted:I mentioned it earlier, but game 1 against Control really is important for the RDW player because you get to bring in Bile Blight, Drown in Sorrows, etc. (or at least max out on them) in games 2 and 3.
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Deflecting Palm would probably be only a 2-of in the side anyway. It's settled then, time to invest in some creatures.
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InterrupterJones posted:Deflecting Palm would probably be only a 2-of in the side anyway. It's settled then, time to invest in some creatures. Neat, it's very possible Goblin Guide will get reprinted in MM2015 so keep that in mind
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TheKingofSprings posted:Neat, it's very possible Goblin Guide will get reprinted in MM2015 so keep that in mind Or Battle for Zendikar.
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