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Congressional Republicans are cooking up a plan and you'll never guess what it is! Unless you guessed "defunding Obamacare", which would be a good guess.quote:Budget rules allow a reconciliation bill to avoid a Senate filibuster, so it is frequently used to pass policies that wouldn’t survive that chamber’s typical procedural hurdles. Its more recent use was to pass Obamacare and, before that, President George W. Bush’s tax cuts. It is still subject to presidential signature or veto. But not all Republicans are convinced of the tactical genius of this plan. quote:“Oh yeah, we got to get it on his desk so he will veto it, and then he’ll be stuck owning Obamacare, because nobody associates Obama with Obamacare yet,” Rep. Thomas Massie told CQ Roll Call. Meanwhile, the Senate is going to vote on their first judicial confirmation of the year this afternoon.
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Joementum posted:Congressional Republicans are cooking up a plan and you'll never guess what it is! Unless you guessed "defunding Obamacare", which would be a good guess. Wait they're actually voting on a confirmation? Are they going to vote it down, since the GOP controls the senate?
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Joementum posted:But not all Republicans are convinced of the tactical genius of this plan. I'm amazed Massie is that lucid about defunding the ACA.
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silvergoose posted:Wait they're actually voting on a confirmation? They're set to confirm Alfred H. Bennett to be a United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas. Remember that district judicial nominees are approved by their state's Senate delegation before moving on to the judicial committee and then the floor. Cruz and Cornyn have already put out press releases saying they support his confirmation, so it'll probably be unopposed.
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Joementum posted:They're set to confirm Alfred H. Bennett to be a United States District Judge of the United States District Court for the Southern District of Texas. Remember that district judicial nominees are approved by their state's Senate delegation before moving on to the judicial committee and then the floor. Cruz and Cornyn have already put out press releases saying they support his confirmation, so it'll probably be unopposed. Crazy! But...kinda nice to hear. I don't even really care if this fred is going to make decisions I agree with, it's nice to hear that the Senate can still confirm justices on occasion.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the morning, "If they get to nominate Hillary Clinton, why don't we get to nominate Dick Cheney? He has a much better record." ~ Bill Kristol Oh no, Br'er GOP, please don't nominate Dick Cheney, there's no way any Democrat can beat him.
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What's better than yet another unarmed black man being killed by the police? An unarmed black man killed by a 70 year old insurance sales man who pays the police to let him run around and play Cops and Robbers. Linkquote:
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Don't infer the system isn't good or it loses its magical totemic powers to protect us from criminals.
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Crain posted:What's better than yet another unarmed black man being killed by the police? An unarmed black man killed by a 70 year old insurance sales man who pays the police to let him run around and play Cops and Robbers. Link So, what you are telling me, is that instead of dropping a couple of grand to go to Disney World, I could instead buy myself a Tin Star and the right to go on safari for The Most Dangerous Game in my own hometown? Good Lord, it's a terrible day to be Black in America.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the morning, "If they get to nominate Hillary Clinton, why don't we get to nominate Dick Cheney? He has a much better record." ~ Bill Kristol Please proceed, GOP.
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Radish posted:Don't infer the system isn't good or it loses its magical totemic powers to protect us from criminals. Don't run from
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Crain posted:What's better than yet another unarmed black man being killed by the police? An unarmed black man killed by a 70 year old insurance sales man who pays the police to let him run around and play Cops and Robbers. Link And as the victim laid on the ground dying, this is what the police said: quote:As Harris lies face down on the ground bleeding and crying out “oh poo poo man, he shot me, he shot me! Oh, he shot me!” one officer puts his knee on Harris’s head in an apparent effort to subdue him. An officer tells Harris to “shut the gently caress up” shortly thereafter. Don't expect charges for the officer who mocked a dying man.
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Did anyone get a chance to listen to Dan Carlin's latest Common Sense? It was pretty adorable - he strongly adheres to a truth-is-in-the-middle ideology and having him try to paint the left as just as bad as the right on specifically the TPP and other trade deals was really strange. You know, those big leftist organizations that benefit from American corruption just as much as corporations do, like... um, you know...
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KiteAuraan posted:So say that you want to work to change some of the hosed up poo poo going on in this country? What is a good organization to start with as a volunteer? Particularly in Arizona, but national groups are also fine. I just want to get involved somehow and try to do what little I can to help change poo poo. SEIU is going to have a rally in Tucson and Tempe on Wednesday for fast food and education workers if you are interested. The schedule is to start at 11 at the intersection of Speedway and Campbell in Tucson. At noon they move to the old main on UA campus. At 2, they will send bus to Tempe to protest at ASU (Hayden lawn, 5 PM).
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Crain posted:What's better than yet another unarmed black man being killed by the police? An unarmed black man killed by a 70 year old insurance sales man who pays the police to let him run around and play Cops and Robbers. Link Oh well, as long as he says he's sorry, then I guess it's okay...
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So some commentator was on TV here in Soviet Scandinavia and said that Hillary only had 14.7 % chance (he did not explain how he got that number) to win, while Jeb Bush was going was to win, after knocking out Rubio. As they have been saying less dumb poo poo than most of the republican clown brigade, are they the most likely candidates and will they be able to appeal to other voters after putting on clown makeup for teabaggers?
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Mister Macys posted:Oh well, as long as he says he's sorry, then I guess it's okay... To be fair, I'm less angry at the shooter than everyone else in this situation. Yeah. He hosed up. Yeah. He's pretty terrible. But, he showed immediate remorse and concern. He can wait in line behind the people who authorized Cash-for-Badges and the "gently caress your breath" cops who should know better.
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He's 73 and should have been put behind a desk, not the barrel of a gun.
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Mister Macys posted:He's 73 and should have been put behind a desk, not the barrel of a gun. He's 73 and a reserve officer. Which means he had no training. I thought reserve officers were supposed to be crossing guards and direct traffic during football games.
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Rincewinds posted:So some commentator was on TV here in Soviet Scandinavia and said that Hillary only had 14.7 % chance (he did not explain how he got that number) to win, while Jeb Bush was going was to win, after knocking out Rubio. As they have been saying less dumb poo poo than most of the republican clown brigade, are they the most likely candidates and will they be able to appeal to other voters after putting on clown makeup for teabaggers? How well can the Aryan socialists comprehend the cultural and political dynamics of Red America? not too well I'd wager
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Rincewinds posted:So some commentator was on TV here in Soviet Scandinavia and said that Hillary only had 14.7 % chance (he did not explain how he got that number) to win, while Jeb Bush was going was to win, after knocking out Rubio. As they have been saying less dumb poo poo than most of the republican clown brigade, are they the most likely candidates and will they be able to appeal to other voters after putting on clown makeup for teabaggers? Bush is definitely the most likely candidate, and favorite (right now) of the mainstream backers. He is not as repugnant to the ravenous base as McCain or Romney (yet). That bodes well for his nomination. However, the right are really overestimating how much Clinton is hated. They also assume the lefty base isn't going to go for Clinton or does not realize how loving dangerous to their goals a Republican president would be. The actual candidates positions matter less than the political power situation, in my opinion. The right knows this is their one chance to roll back all of Obama's doings, and the left knows that too. But, it's early, and things could happen. In 2006, we were all certain it'd be Condoleezza Rice vs Clinton.
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Rincewinds posted:So some commentator was on TV here in Soviet Scandinavia and said that Hillary only had 14.7 % chance (he did not explain how he got that number) to win, while Jeb Bush was going was to win, after knocking out Rubio. As they have been saying less dumb poo poo than most of the republican clown brigade, are they the most likely candidates and will they be able to appeal to other voters after putting on clown makeup for teabaggers? Hillary will win if we maintain status quo for two years, or if things get only somewhat worse domestically and internationally. For her to lose would require a big economic downturn, Iran proving Mossad wrong and getting a nuclear bomb, or Hillary having a health problem. I have no idea how someone could give her that low a chance, did the commentator even say why he thinks she's not the favourite?
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Mister Macys posted:He's 73 and should have been put behind a desk, not the barrel of a gun. How is he supposed to kill black people without a gun? It's like you don't even know why the police exist.
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To be fair, up in Canada we kill our minorities with tazer™s.hobbesmaster posted:He's 73 and a reserve officer. Which means he had no training. I thought reserve officers were supposed to be crossing guards and direct traffic during football games. He's an insurance salesman. If he wants to play cop, stick him behind a desk to administrate and take calls/walk-ins. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Apr 13, 2015 |
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Basically, this is not 2000, Obama has not been tarnished the way Bill Clinton was, and while Bush may still have moderate cover, the Republicans in Congress are not trusted. They think it is, and hope they can sneak in like W.
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Mister Macys posted:To be fair, up in Canada we kill our minorities with tazer™s. That's not what he paid for.
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Radbot posted:Did anyone get a chance to listen to Dan Carlin's latest Common Sense? Carlin flat-out says he expects you to disagree with Common Sense about half the time, and I think it's his sense of self-awareness that's the only thing keeping me from writing off his non-Hardcore History work completely, because some of the time he really come off as sounding like a South Park libertarian.
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Chamale posted:Hillary will win if we maintain status quo for two years, or if things get only somewhat worse domestically and internationally. For her to lose would require a big economic downturn, Iran proving Mossad wrong and getting a nuclear bomb, or Hillary having a health problem. I have no idea how someone could give her that low a chance, did the commentator even say why he thinks she's not the favourite? He did not specify much, nor did he say how he got that number, the only thing he pointed out was that after 8 years of a democratic president, it would be hard for a new democrat to take over. Then again, in our politics governments lose elections not because they have done anything directly wrong but because people believe it's time for change.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Carlin flat-out says he expects you to disagree with Common Sense about half the time, and I think it's his sense of self-awareness that's the only thing keeping me from writing off his non-Hardcore History work completely, because some of the time he really come off as sounding like a South Park libertarian. Fair enough, and he's pretty much the only person talking about the TPP in the podcast-o-sphere, so I'll give him that. It just bugs me when he threw out Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, and others as being anti-TPP, and mentioned "some on the right, too" as against it, since of course the only people on the right against this poo poo are craven opportunists like Rand. He also "didn't want to make it sound like just a business thing" in regards to the TPP, which is loving stupid on its face. What else is it? Is it allowing unions the same powers? Don't think so.
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I guess Tulsa PD had to come up with some alternative revenue streams after that huge corruption scandal a few years back crimped their style. e: A corruption scandal which, as a very minor note, involved negligent discharge of a firearm while retaliating against a witness, per google. eviltastic fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Apr 13, 2015 |
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Rincewinds posted:He did not specify much, nor did he say how he got that number, the only thing he pointed out was that after 8 years of a democratic president, it would be hard for a new democrat to take over. Then again, in our politics governments lose elections not because they have done anything directly wrong but because people believe it's time for change. He's right there's usually a constant flip back and forth between Republicans and Democrats around a period of two terms, but it usually comes after the current president has screwed the pooch on a big enough stage to make the other party favorable. And it's not always exactly two terms. They may hate Obama that much, but I'm not convinced everyone else does.
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gradenko_2000 posted:Carlin flat-out says he expects you to disagree with Common Sense about half the time, and I think it's his sense of self-awareness that's the only thing keeping me from writing off his non-Hardcore History work completely, because some of the time he really come off as sounding like a South Park libertarian. Hell that's part of the reason I gave up listening to his history podcast. I was listening to his world war one series last year and that truth in the middle crap just kept hitting me and after awhile I just turned it off cause he's a crap historian. I don't get why he's so popular, I'd rather listen to The Dollop at leat those guys are funny
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Rincewinds posted:So some commentator was on TV here in Soviet Scandinavia and said that Hillary only had 14.7 % chance (he did not explain how he got that number) to win, while Jeb Bush was going was to win, after knocking out Rubio. As they have been saying less dumb poo poo than most of the republican clown brigade, are they the most likely candidates and will they be able to appeal to other voters after putting on clown makeup for teabaggers? Yesterday deLong and Dickerson were batting back and forth in this, current odds have her at 79%, discussion was that this is over estimated and she will dip down to around 55% at some point one campaigning begins in ernest, that real odds, spitballed, should be 66% aggregate over the next 18 months. This is from betting markets, mind, not a 538 style number crunching model. Past that, I agree, GOP nom is gonna be Bush.
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Indeed. After a while, America tends to feel it's time for a change. But I don't think America's ready for a change back to W. And that's what Jeb's showing. Personally, I can't wait for the Walker-Bush unfriendly fire.
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foobardog posted:He's right there's usually a constant flip back and forth between Republicans and Democrats around a period of two terms, but it usually comes after the current president has screwed the pooch on a big enough stage to make the other party favorable. And it's not always exactly two terms. Over the whole history of U.S. elections, a party winning exactly two consecutive terms has happened 8 times. A party winning just one election before losing again has also happened 8 times, 3 or 4 consecutive terms twice each, and 6 or 7 consecutive terms once each. Certainly a noteworthy historical trend, but a look at the current candidates makes me still think Clinton is the favourite.
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rubio surprised everybody, announces he is hella gay
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KomradeX posted:Hell that's part of the reason I gave up listening to his history podcast. I was listening to his world war one series last year and that truth in the middle crap just kept hitting me and after awhile I just turned it off cause he's a crap historian. I don't get why he's so popular, I'd rather listen to The Dollop at leat those guys are funny He got me started on podcasting and seriously reading into history again, but I did end up not listening to HH anymore after the first WW1 episode because by then I was reading the sources that he aggregates from. He's popular because his material is listenable and he narrates in an emphatic way, but I do agree that his politics does sometimes leak into his work to its detriment and his paucity of analogies can get tedious. Referencing Niall Ferguson's The Pity of War and the "there wasn't really a Schlieffen Plan" theory was also a pretty big turn-off.
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Pohl posted:He is way more complicated than that. I'd probably vote for a different Democrat than him because Biden is really pro war. I didn't realize that a long time ago. You have to realize, I've been rooting for this guy for 20 years. Still catching up with the thread, but I think this article might be persuasive in showing Biden wouldn't be the most hawkish person in a hypothetical primary. At least he argued against the Iraq surge. quote:If Hillary Clinton wins her party's nomination, she'll be the most hawkish Democratic nominee since the Iraq War began. quote:Clinton was Obama's Secretary of State, so she can't openly denounce his foreign policy while running for the Democratic nomination. But she has taken oblique shots that make her feelings clear: She believes the Obama administration's approach to world politics is too cautious. http://www.vox.com/2015/4/13/8395917/hillary-clinton-hawk
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Warcabbit posted:Indeed. After a while, America tends to feel it's time for a change. But I don't think America's ready for a change back to W. And that's what Jeb's showing. America definitely wants a change, but what they poll as wanting there isn't a party pushing. Chamale posted:Over the whole history of U.S. elections, a party winning exactly two consecutive terms has happened 8 times. A party winning just one election before losing again has also happened 8 times, 3 or 4 consecutive terms twice each, and 6 or 7 consecutive terms once each. Certainly a noteworthy historical trend, but a look at the current candidates makes me still think Clinton is the favourite. I don't really see any use of going off so few data points. It's like "Missouri has always picked the president!" until, unsurprising to anyone who wasn't a brainless horse race pundit, it didn't.
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