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Phyresis posted:
looks like the existing shining spear and autarch upgrade boxes getting a rename and going direct only, considering they only have D in the route-to-market column
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They're direct only but look at their price. At that price they must be including the plastic sprues that allow complete models to be built, which makes me wonder if the Windriders are just a reboxing of the "current" dickbikes.
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Apr 14, 2015 14:37
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Having ordered 2 boxes of the old-school jetbikes a couple weeks ago, the ones I received were in up-to-date cardboard boxes (ie with the pictures/background design they are currently using) so I see no reason they would have to be re-boxed. They are also releasing a jetbike farseer (so I doubt he is on an identical bike to the 1990 ones) and a hint in WD points to a jetbike kit - they don't announce reboxed old models in WD.
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WAR FOOT posted:Scorpions are actually pretty bad, imo, and I say this as someone who owns 30 and Karandras. I'm not saying they're great or anything, but they have the tools to get into CC and the volume of attacks to do something when they get there. Also, claw exarchs can be a nasty challenge, and at the very least, they are an affordable tax to outflank a wave serpent. They're decent.
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Genghis Cohen posted:Having ordered 2 boxes of the old-school jetbikes a couple weeks ago, the ones I received were in up-to-date cardboard boxes (ie with the pictures/background design they are currently using) so I see no reason they would have to be re-boxed. They are also releasing a jetbike farseer (so I doubt he is on an identical bike to the 1990 ones) and a hint in WD points to a jetbike kit - they don't announce reboxed old models in WD. I've seen the up-to-date WIndrunner boxes in a store (R.I.P. Altamonte Springs GW) but just because there's no reason for them to be reboxed doesn't mean they won't be. Sometimes they just shift around how many models come in a box for their own esoteric reasons. I just find it strange that a new jetbike kit was designed to be compatible with lovely old Shining Spear bits instead of being a dual kit. Same with the Skyrunner and Autarch bits.
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PeterWeller posted:I'm not saying they're great or anything, but they have the tools to get into CC and the volume of attacks to do something when they get there. Also, claw exarchs can be a nasty challenge, and at the very least, they are an affordable tax to outflank a wave serpent. They're decent. They're not awful but holy poo poo you pay a lot for an Exarch. 27 base and 30 for the claw and you probably want Crushing Blow on top. 30 points for a god drat scorpion claw. I can see Kelly's thought process: "Durrr, power fists are 25 points and a scorpion claw is just better so it has to cost more!  " No, you idiot, the real problem is that power fists (and pretty much every other special melee weapon) are horribly overpriced.
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 Making some progress with my Scions at last by just following GW's video painting guide even. Although I'm not sure if I wanna go into the highlighting stage or not once I've finished the base colours because I kinda like the muted colours that I've got with them right now.
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Phyresis posted:They're not awful but holy poo poo you pay a lot for an Exarch. 27 base and 30 for the claw and you probably want Crushing Blow on top. 30 points for a god drat scorpion claw. I can see Kelly's thought process: "Durrr, power fists are 25 points and a scorpion claw is just better so it has to cost more! Well, you see the scorpion's claw also comes with a built-in shruicat, and you can't just give those away.  But yeah, a scorpion exarch is gonna be a real points sink. Really, all exarchs are kinda traps in that regard.
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Phyresis posted:I just find it strange that a new jetbike kit was designed to be compatible with lovely old Shining Spear bits instead of being a dual kit. Same with the Skyrunner and Autarch bits. Everything in that picture clearly points to the Jetbike not getting a new model. What also points to it is the webstore, where you can no longer buy Jetbikes - if they were getting replaced they would be selling the old ones until midnight Friday, yanking them from the store to me says they've been recalled and reboxed. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 15:18 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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Post 9-11 User posted:Eldar got two major updates in their model range, one after the other and the first set was wretched. The Fire Dragons were probably the worst offender, check the guy in the middle and compare him to how good the ancient 2nd ed models are: Did this guy base his models with weed?
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NTRabbit posted:Everything in that picture clearly points to the Jetbike not getting a new model. That's what I'm saying! I have no idea what a Skyrunner is but I wouldn't be surprised if there is no new jetbike kit.
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Helmholz posted:Did this guy base his models with weed? Were you the kid who showed up at the party with a HUGE bag of weed and everyone laughs cause it's Rosemary?
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Best case scenario, they repackage Shining Spears and Autarchs to run down their old stock of the Finecast parts and the old-school jetbikes, and the plastic kits are brand new (and incompatible). My hope is that the jetbike farseer is a sign that there is a new Eldar Guardian jetbike as well, but that's certainly not a given since the Farseer is a clampack and GW is dumb.
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PantsOptional posted:What makes you say that? The only Corax entry on that list is the hardcover version on the 2013 Black Library book. Oh, thought "Corax: Soulforge" was a fancy name for Corax getting a model.
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Captain Invictus posted:
Are you sure the bullet pots are salvagable? They're from 12-13 years ago and had a design flaw that irreparably cured the paint after 3-4.
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I haven't even read the latest Eldar Codex, Scorpions got their Mandiblasters back as an extra I10 attack rather than just an extra attack? That's cool as heck and added an extra dimension to the unit in situations such as Slaaneshi demons or Dark Eldar units. Oh gently caress, speaking of the 3rd/4th edition update, what was I thinking! Striking Rabbits were the worst thing since Chaos Possessed:  I wasn't able to find a high resolution photo but it's probably evident how the models are sculpted with comical buckteeth helmets and absurd "stealth" poses. I wonder if the Biting Blade or Chainsabers are now worth taking since Powah Weapons got gimped.
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Gary Morely is the gift that keeps on giving.
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spacegoat posted:Gary Morely is the gift that keeps on giving.
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xenos filth get what they deserve
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Phyresis posted:xenos filth get what they deserve As if the old lemartes is gods gift to the imperium
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a paragon of faith... reduced to a monstrosity by the cursed blood...
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Phyresis posted:a paragon of faith... reduced to a monstrosity by the cursed blood... Cursed to dance forevermore 
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If you experience a purity seal erection lasting four hours or more, contact your apothecary immediately.
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CyberLord XP posted:Were you the kid who showed up at the party with a HUGE bag of weed and everyone laughs cause it's Rosemary? So you know what it is, then?
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Helmholz posted:So you know what it is, then? It really looks like Rosemary, maybe with some Basil or fine wood shavings added in. Sorry if I came off as a dick, but that doesn't look like weed at all to me.
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Post 9-11 User posted:I wonder if the Biting Blade or Chainsabers are now worth taking since Powah Weapons got gimped. The scorpion's claw is ap2 and not unwieldy. It's one of the best power weapons in the game now. It's also hells of expensive.
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Thank god there is a new jetbike kit, I can stop worrying. They look very similar to the old ones, which is understandable. It's cool that the Jetseer can be built as a Warlock as well. That Autarch looks boss as gently caress. Rumors saying Wraithknights are indeed GCs - heavy wraithcannon and the big rear end sword are D-Weapons
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Are those really the same Jetbikes they've been sitting since two thousand and loving seven? 
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spacegoat posted:Are those really the same Jetbikes that have been sitting since two thousand and loving seven? Yep. The jetbike in the back has a scatter laser and the one up front has I'm dumb, the front one has the ninja star shooter too Phyresis fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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^^^ Both those front models have twin-linked shuriken catapults mate, as far as I can see. I am pleased mightily by all these things, but really want to see the new formation/detachment rules for eldar. There is potential to change a lot more than just the new-model units and fix the broken/complained about wraithknight, wave serpents and scatter lasers. Huge that jetbikes can get everyone a heavy weapon though. Makes them a bit closer to the firepower unit they are in the background. Very cool army potential there. Wonder what the sweet spot will be - maybe 2/3 heavies and some chaps at the front to catch bullets? Scatter lasers, even with laser lock gone/irrelevant, seem better than shuriken on a unit which wants to avoid assault.
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I dunno, the shuriken cannon has one less shot but it has AP5 and (hopefully) pseudorending.
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Thank the Emperor for that scatterlaser change. Praise be to Kelly.
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Phyresis posted:I dunno, the shuriken cannon has one less shot but it has AP5 and (hopefully) pseudorending. Bladestorm made it into the Harlie book, so I'm sure it's still around. Also, it appears autarchs got at least one new wargear option--that gun looks like a fusion pistol.
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Phyresis posted:I dunno, the shuriken cannon has one less shot but it has AP5 and (hopefully) pseudorending. It does do more damage against heavy infantry/MCs who lack cover/inv saves. But so much in the game now is sure to have one of those, and there are always vehicles. But the big thing is range. Assuming the weapons stayed the same, you are getting a lot more choice of targets from turn 1, and are much more able to scoot around the edges of the table firing freely (knowing you can blast onto objectives at the end). In any case it really remains to be seen. But I love the idea of taking jetbikes as the core of any army. Just lots of bikes and vypers and some of the harlequin equivalents jetting about being ninja space pirates.
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Sulecrist posted:That Autarch looks dopey. He's standing on a bit of rubble again, like the Solitaire and Illic Nightspear. Kind of annoying if that isn't your base theme.
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NTRabbit posted:He's standing on a bit of rubble again, like the Solitaire and Illic Nightspear. Kind of annoying if that isn't your base theme. It reminds me of those Captain Morgan ads. I think it's just the wrong moment of landing/takeoff to freeze.
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Genghis Cohen posted:It does do more damage against heavy infantry/MCs who lack cover/inv saves. But so much in the game now is sure to have one of those, and there are always vehicles. But the big thing is range. Assuming the weapons stayed the same, you are getting a lot more choice of targets from turn 1, and are much more able to scoot around the edges of the table firing freely (knowing you can blast onto objectives at the end). In any case it really remains to be seen. But I love the idea of taking jetbikes as the core of any army. Just lots of bikes and vypers and some of the harlequin equivalents jetting about being ninja space pirates. That is a good point. You can harass enemy units from out of range and jump behind obstructing terrain, etc. We'll see if they can indeed all take a heavy weapon, I guess.
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