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There has to be something horribly politically inconvenient about the fact that you guys hired a core GNOME Shell (as distinct from Mutter, I'm guessing) developer and then had him do a rewritten GNOME Shell fork a la Cinnamon because non-imaginary people by and large hate the GNOME Shell UX What are the odds that GNOME 4 will just replace GNOME Shell with the EOS Shell I wonder
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Apr 14, 2015 19:13
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its free software
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oh hey it's a computer in the form of a low-cost box that you plug into your tv, where have i seen that before ... oh yeah my childhood you lose marks for not having the cpu built into the keyboard, but still looks pretty cool so grats on building a thing
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Apr 14, 2015 19:17
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Mr Dog posted:What are the odds that GNOME 4 will just replace GNOME Shell with the EOS Shell I wonder 0. gnome has never listened to actual users before, why would they start now?
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Apr 14, 2015 19:33
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:0. if they keep redesigning things hard enough, maybe grandma will finally love them
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Apr 14, 2015 19:37
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I unironically like the GNOME Shell UX, its just every other GNOME 3 application that's complete garbage.
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Apr 14, 2015 19:40
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i use it daily and i guess i don't mind it. the virtual desktop oriented task switching concept is good. the implementation is not. too much repeated mashing up or down hunting through my list of desktops to get to what i'm doing. a grid would have been better maybe idk.
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Apr 14, 2015 19:47
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Mr Dog posted:There has to be something horribly politically inconvenient about the fact that you guys hired a core GNOME Shell (as distinct from Mutter, I'm guessing) developer and then had him do a rewritten GNOME Shell fork a la Cinnamon because non-imaginary people by and large hate the GNOME Shell UX Cosimo and I worked really closely together at Red Hat. What we did on EOS was largely fast and in response to user feedback in the field, and we couldn't really push it upstream since we weren't public yet. We want to contribute what we can back to the community, and we're working on pushing what we did with search to be public.
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Apr 14, 2015 19:53
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lol another gnome 3 fork
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Apr 14, 2015 21:23
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gnome3 FTW
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Apr 14, 2015 21:37
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Suspicious Dish posted:It comes preloaded with tons of apps that have content from Wikipedia and WikiHow, for education, games and other things. There's plenty more coming with that plan ("offline internet"), but I can't talk about it quite yet. Any peer-to-peer networking plans? A gigantic mesh network for example.
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Apr 14, 2015 22:10
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:is this an english as a second language thing? maybe it is. because, unlike in english, there isn't the "poor quality piece of poo poo" connotation for "cheap" in portuguese unless you say it like "suspiciously way too cheap"
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Apr 14, 2015 23:05
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maybe not in brazil ( i have no idea ) but here in Portugal it is not too different
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Apr 14, 2015 23:18
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MrMoo posted:Any peer-to-peer networking plans? A gigantic mesh network for example. We have plenty of plans for last-mile delivery, including things like "your phone has 3G, you take it to work, it downloads updates, you come back, it pushes to your computer with Bluetooth" and "mesh network among local computers running Endless", and plenty of simpler and more advanced ones we can't talk about right now. We employ Daniel Drake, who previously was at OLPC and wrote olpc-mesh, and he told us about the issues they encountered with mesh networking in reality, and we've talked with a mesh networking consultant. So, there's plans, but they're in serious R, and not quite in D, at least for now.
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Apr 14, 2015 23:39
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Nothing more to contribute for the moment than the Endless project looks very promising and is absolutely necessary - not that you need my validation. Best of luck Suspicious Dish!
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What is the advantage to buying an endless over buying the west's refurbished e-waste? Do they have any sort of modularity to their design? Most importantly, how will endless help facilitate the distribution of pornography to the next billion. Figuring out a way to get grainy pixelated porn from the cell network to someone's endless could make a whole lot of money.
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SYSV Fanfic posted:What is the advantage to buying an endless nothing 
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i have only 1 question and idk if its relevant but ok here it is when i was watching the video in the beginnign tyhe ceo guy said "when i went on tour of india i realized my cell phone is a tower and a tv is a monitor" so i thot hmm pretty clever mebes a dongle and a OS to turn the cell phone into a real computer that can word process and stuff or mebes a WEBAPP not sure but then instead of something that used the cell phone as a tower like that dude said - it was actually just another computer tower with no relation to the ceo guys cell phone. just a small bit that confused me but then again, a lot of things confuse me. like junior high algebra. so dont mind me
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Apr 15, 2015 02:03
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like i thot maybe the cell phone was going 2 power a thin client that connected to a cloud backend that could serve a suite of office apps or something so rural farmers or some poo poo could use excel. or use a credit card priocessor. not sure what im thinking but thats where my mind took me.
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That was actually our first idea. Turning your smartphone into a computer. We toyed around with it for a year before realizing that it was just not a realistic thing that you can do. And then Ubuntu Phone came out and also proved it's not a thing you can do. The link there is that cheap mobile processors can make great computers without the size of a full CPU tower. We can't do anything with cloud apps, because internet is very intermittent and unstable in these places.
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Apr 15, 2015 02:10
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I'm in for one of the deluxe versions. Can't wait! Are you involved with the hardware designs in any way? Is the device going to be "repairable" in any fashion? Of course, it's nonsensical to expect people to debug a broken logic board and replace aging capacitors, but is stuff like the eMMC chip replaceable? What do you expect the final development environment to reasonably support? Only C++/Gnome? Java? Python? Comedy option Javascript? EDIT: Looks like one of your linked repositories is the kernel. One step closer to turning this baby into yet another XBMC device... celeron 300a fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Apr 15, 2015 |
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Apr 15, 2015 02:39
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Industrial design was by Scott, I sit next to him. Board design was done by Gary, our hardware engineer, and Wistron, our OEM.
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Apr 15, 2015 02:46
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ah, yeah, gary. good guy.
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Apr 15, 2015 02:56
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Can we see some screenshots anywhere apart from in the videos?
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Last Chance posted:ah, yeah, gary. good guy. gary gnu? no gnus is good gnus
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my stepdads beer posted:Can we see some screenshots anywhere apart from in the videos? That's a thing we're actually working on as an update -- we simply forgot screenshots of the OS. Oops. Entirely our fault. For now, you can see some on the prototype product website: http://www.missioncomputadoras.com/los-programas
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los programas.. what the hell does that mean??
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pram posted:los programas.. what the hell does that mean?? ur mom h2h.
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Suspicious Dish posted:That's a thing we're actually working on as an update -- we simply forgot screenshots of the OS. Oops. Entirely our fault. that gnome bar at the bottom is triggering me i mean it should be at top but i understand why you put it bottom
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Apr 15, 2015 05:23
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One of the changes we made to our OS from upstream GNOME. FYI, the code for that is open-source now: https://github.com/endlessm/eos-desktop
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is it upgradable? can someone buy a lower model and over time save up for better hardware? i mean, i guess they can buy an external hard drive, but any way to upgrade ram or whatever?
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RAM is burned onto the board in our product. The 32GB is composed of 16GB eMMC burned onto the board, and 16GB of an SD card (cheap storage for lots of immutable content, like the copies of Wikipedia and Khan Academy we ship). The 500GB product is a full-on hard drive. The actual board hardware is actually the same in both cases, it's just what modules are loaded on it. You could buy a 32GB product and connect a 500GB internal HDD to it, and if you find the correct Wi-Fi antenna part, you could open it up and screw on the radio module yourself. It's something we'll continue to investigate, but we've found that the failure rate and extra cost in making upgradable components on a mini-PC form factor was not something we wanted to take on for this product.
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i am intrigued by the new power management stuff in the new kde beta https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.2.95.php anyone here tried it?
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Suspicious Dish posted:One of the changes we made to our OS from upstream GNOME. are you using (or planning to migrate to) wayland? are you trying to build a single-framework platform, or are you shipping a variety of different frameworks and trying to make them all fit visually and technically? (you can guess where I'd stand on that...)
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Shinku ABOOKEN posted:i am intrigued by the new power management stuff in the new kde beta that stuff looks great, would love to try it but been running kubuntu 15.04 prerelease on my laptop, and its going to stay kde 5.2 will probably have to upgrade to 15.10 prerelease ASAP, as soon as the codename is chosen and the apt repos are set up
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Apr 15, 2015 13:37
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looks like the pull request for kdbus was sent in a couple of days ago it's pretty much going how you would expect
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oh, I didn't notice Jonathan Blandford on the team page before -- he's good people, I like him
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Subjunctive posted:oh, I didn't notice Jonathan Blandford on the team page before -- he's good people, I like him you know jrb? jrb loving owns yeah. also he's in the kickstarter video too you dork
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Suspicious Dish posted:you know jrb? jrb loving owns yeah. also he's in the kickstarter video too you dork I didn't watch the kickstarter video  yeah, know jrb from older Linux community stuff and some mutual friends. def owns.
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