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Paladinus posted:In Russian they are called 'stolovaya' which is distinct from restaurants. Think a school cafeteria with slightly more choices. Sometimes they even are actual school/Uni cafeterias that try to make some extra money. They are literally the cheapest places you can find bar soup kitchens. No fast food chain can compete with their prices. That menu is awfully fancy for a stolovaya. Champignons, table knives, vyber? It's just a terrible restaurant. I'm not sure what vyber is btw, it translates to "choice" and it's also a Czech heavy metal band apparently.
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My entire family is Czech but in the US. We had the most pathetic family reunions when it came to the food. That poo poo was always so depressing. My mom had taste buds so she would always spice up and add things to the goulash and it's really good stuff, but not traditional.
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Apr 15, 2015 05:07
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SLOSifl posted:The lunch menus in every restaurant look exactly like that, doesn't matter if it looks like a prisoncamp chowhole or a fancy french bistro. Imagine the same exact menu but printed on a nice card on the table, with nice lighting and a waiter who literally does not care about anything that happens during the entire time you are there. Then they calculate the bill at the table whether or not they are good at math as they walk from person to person taking lunch vouchers and smatterings of coins, with the process taking slightly longer than the meal itself. I don't think this is fair (if we're talking about the Czech Republic at least). Lunch menus in regular restaurants are no fine dining but there are usually nowhere near as bad as what I got served in this particular eatery. Nice restaurants usually offer more elaborate lunch menus for higher prices. loga mira posted:That menu is awfully fancy for a stolovaya. Champignons, table knives, vyber? It's just a terrible restaurant. This place was definitely not a standard terrible restaurant. I'm not sure what exactly "stolovaya" looks like in Poland or Russia but the place I went to was definitely closer in spirit to that than a normal restaurant. The "choice" menu would probably be just as bad as any other. Here are some pictures of the interior for reference:   
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Apr 15, 2015 06:53
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The last time I had surgery for my hosed up colon, this was the first solid food I ate in 12 days Still don't know what it was, but it was delicious. Some sort of chicken stir fry, I think.
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Apr 15, 2015 07:09
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That old lady on the right is giving you the death stare.
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Apr 15, 2015 07:13
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See the sticker in the upper right corner? Sodexo. That's the evil MegaGloboCorp of food services. Operates cafeterias in workplaces, schools, hospitals and military bases all over the world. Also most US college dining halls.
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Apr 15, 2015 07:24
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Captain Jesus posted:I guess in this case it's supposed to be food that is good for people who have diabetes? As in diabetic menu? Today it was supposed to be chicken with champignons and rice. I don't think it makes any sense. It just adds something special to the dark magic of the place. Ha ha ha...Yeah...real glycemic index friendly with that cheap white rice.
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Apr 15, 2015 07:45
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drat thats a lot of old people. THere must be some kinda retirement facility nearby. Stolovayas are a Soviet and now ex-Soviet institution, so you won't find them in places like Poland. There were diet stolovayas, vegetarian, closed stolovayas etc. One weekly horror in some of those was the "fish day" when all meat based dishes were replaced with fish, every Thursday. Even looking at that ritzy Czech establishment you can tell that you don't want to eat fish there. Pirozhki with saury and rice were great though. Looks like saury is used as pet food in the West :/ decadent. Fish cutlets though, now those cutletc I wouldn't feed to my dog, or any dog. There is one particular Russian soup called rassolnik that makes everyone who remembers it from Soviet obschepit gag. It's made of pickles and pickle juice and it's tricky to do right even at home, and whoever decided that it should be a staple of soviet food service contributed significantly to the collapse of the state imo.
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Apr 15, 2015 09:10
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axolotl farmer posted:See the sticker in the upper right corner? Sodexo. Truth. Had a couple of them in Afghanistan and they were loving awful.
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Apr 15, 2015 09:46
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loga mira posted:That menu is awfully fancy for a stolovaya. Champignons, table knives, vyber? It's just a terrible restaurant. Stolovayas can have some fancy food, too. In many cases (at least in ex-Soviet countries) you can hold a wedding or a birthday reception at a stolovaya. They even put tablecloth on the table for the occasion and hang balloons everywhere. All left over Caesar salads and stuffed chicken legs are then sold the next day. loga mira posted:drat thats a lot of old people. THere must be some kinda retirement facility nearby. In Poland they are called bar mleczny and they are very similar to more upsacale stolovayas both in menu and prices. Here's an example  In Russia or Ukraine that would be closer to a second class stolovaya, whereas student stolovayas are typically third class, which means aluminium cutlery, no knives and no napkins, but also the cheapest 'food'. quote:There is one particular Russian soup called rassolnik that makes everyone who remembers it from Soviet obschepit gag. It's made of pickles and pickle juice and it's tricky to do right even at home, and whoever decided that it should be a staple of soviet food service contributed significantly to the collapse of the state imo. Rassolniks are awful, but not as awful as cold bluish corn porridge. Fish cutlets with this thing on the side with copious amounts of gravy is a staple stolovaya dish that makes students from naive kids into grim adults. It's like a little war with your stomach.
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Apr 15, 2015 09:48
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loga mira posted:drat thats a lot of old people. THere must be some kinda retirement facility nearby. I've always gone by the rule of "Don't eat fish in a landlocked country". It's served me well thus far.
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Apr 15, 2015 11:27
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Lol at the Santa hat. axolotl farmer posted:See the sticker in the upper right corner? Sodexo. Baahaha. Sodexo was also the food service provider at this fancy-rear end hedge fund I worked at recently. They did a pretty bitchin' cook-to-order pasta bar on Wednesdays. Still, good to know those guys were getting taken for a ride. 
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Apr 15, 2015 12:28
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Captain Jesus posted:I don't think this is fair (if we're talking about the Czech Republic at least). Lunch menus in regular restaurants are no fine dining but there are usually nowhere near as bad as what I got served in this particular eatery. Nice restaurants usually offer more elaborate lunch menus for higher prices. I haven't been to a cafeteria-style place, although I do sometimes get made fun of by my coworkers for stopping for McDonald's before work. "Haha you americans love mcdonald's lololol" *eats vending machine sandwich*
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Apr 15, 2015 12:44
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For some reason, this is really appealing, almost comforting.
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Apr 15, 2015 13:46
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loga mira posted:so you won't find them in places like Poland This is not true - you still have them, and they're targeted towards low-income people - students, old, etc. I guess you could compare it to US soup kitchens? (I don't really know, I only seen soup kitchens in tv). They're called either bar mleczny as Paladinus has posted, or stołówka, which I guess, stems from the same word as stolovayas (stołować), which means - to eat. When I was a student we had one near the dorms where you'd get similar, or worse looking food - it was mass produced (as - a couple of pots of the same soup, a lot of meat prepared in one pot, etc.) so I guess that would explain the look / taste, but you've got to remember you went there to get full, and not to delight in the taste palette of the meal. If we're talking about polish bar mleczny (so, a milk bar, called that because the majority of food was milk based), there's a great scene in movie Miś that shows how these things worked in Poland during soviet times (it's a comedy, so it's a bit exaggerated  - still my favourite thing is the plate that is screwed to the table, so it won't get stolen)edit: vvv Yup - nobody would feed you for free in these places canis minor has a new favorite as of 14:14 on Apr 15, 2015 |
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canis minor posted:This is not true - you still have them, and they're targeted towards low-income people - students, old, etc. I guess you could compare it to US soup kitchens? (I don't really know, I only seen soup kitchens in tv). But dill pickle soup is fantastic.  I tried and failed to find a photo of it gross enough for the thread.
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Apr 15, 2015 14:05
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Wasabi the J posted:Endo's Frisk creations are truly wonderful. Yeah eh. Literally one of my most favorite TV shows despite the fact I barely understand it. Also: THAI KICK!
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Apr 15, 2015 14:31
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Gridlocked posted:Yeah eh. All of the Gaki no Tsukai Absolutely Tasty series belongs in this thread (warning, Reddit); it even occasionally has some kick-rear end recipes that happen to work, like Tanaka's edamame-beer rice, which my fiance and I make all the time now. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHAlq6i5pso
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Apr 15, 2015 15:07
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Pastry of the Year posted:For some reason, this is really appealing, almost comforting.
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Apr 15, 2015 15:10
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Hirayuki posted:"Soup kitchens" in the US are places where the hungry and/or homeless are fed for free, like this fantastic soup kitchen in downtown Detroit. I have to imagine these Eastern European places charge at least something for what they serve (I hesitate to call it "food").  Photos fail to capture that weird murky white-ish colour, so that's as close as you can get, I suppose. I've also found a photo I've taken years ago in Minsk. 
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Apr 15, 2015 15:21
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Pastry of the Year posted:For some reason, this is really appealing, almost comforting.
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Apr 15, 2015 15:48
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As much as food sucks in CZ, when I went it had some of the most amazing beer I've ever had. Also, those styles of extremely cheap (not quite restaurant) eateries are not exclusive to Eastern Europe, I've seen them all around the world and even eaten at them. Mostly populated in descending order by cheap labor, old people and students.
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Apr 15, 2015 16:08
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Medieval Medic posted:As much as food sucks in CZ, when I went it had some of the most amazing beer I've ever had.
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Apr 15, 2015 17:06
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cyberbug posted:Been a while since I last were there, but my culinary memories from CZ are very positive. Deep fried cheese served with the best beer in the world almost for free! Sign me up! Yeah, the fried cheese was a stand out in how amazingly tasty it is, and is a guilty pleasure I myself make on special occasions given how calory dense it is. Then again, it is also something you could pretty much find in any Polish restaurant aswell(fried Camembert with cranberry sauce), and on the cz/polish borders of Germany.
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Apr 15, 2015 17:36
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You can get fried hermelín on or with everything. Good bar food and drat good on a burger. Even McDonald's puts it on stuff and it helps.
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Apr 15, 2015 18:10
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canis minor posted:This is not true - you still have them, and they're targeted towards low-income people - students, old, etc. I guess you could compare it to US soup kitchens? (I don't really know, I only seen soup kitchens in tv). They're called either bar mleczny as Paladinus has posted, or stołówka, which I guess, stems from the same word as stolovayas (stołować), which means - to eat Oh, that's interesting. Stolovka is the diminutive form in Russian as well, and it certainly isn't directly derived from the original pre-Soviet meaning of the word, dining room. That's curious for real as I've just learned the word "stolovaya" does not exist in Ukrainian, yet it is of Proto-Slavic origin. So either it was borrowed one way or another, or it evolved independently, otherwise it would've entered Ukrainian from Russia or Poland. These threads often focus on American 50s food, gelatine stuff, mayonnaise, gross savory and sugary sweet salads, but Soviet ads of the time are mainly of separate ingredients and canned food. Some scans I've found. Mayonnaise globs topped with red caviar. There is probably something inside in there but what can it be that's not abominable?  Canned corn with butter  Buckwheat porridge with butter (the canonical way but the colored photo is gross nonetheless)  Potato flakes with butter and soiled waffles  Beer, with butter probably. Note the huge soggy loving pickle. Between that pickle and those peas those sausages are soaking in cold brine.  Canned peas with mother loving butter  There's also a picture of butter on butter but that's too much even for the food porn thread.
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Apr 15, 2015 18:13
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loga mira posted:Canned peas with mother loving butter Is this a weird thing? Literally every christmas, thanksgiving, and any other major holiday dinner where annoying relatives come over and eat all your food I've been to has had buttered peas or corn. For like three decades. Is this another case of the midwest skewing my perspective?  Also, that 'potato flakes with butter and soiled waffles' picture makes me insanely hungry. Not even sure what's in or on the waffles, but it looks really good.
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Apr 15, 2015 18:20
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loga mira posted:There's also a picture of butter on butter but that's too much even for the food porn thread.  , it's not for you to decide who is bold enough to handle butter on butter
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ACES CURE PLANES posted:Is this a weird thing? Literally every christmas, thanksgiving, and any other major holiday dinner where annoying relatives come over and eat all your food I've been to has had buttered peas or corn. For like three decades. Is this another case of the midwest skewing my perspective? Butter is ok on almost everything, but maybe look into replacing it with olive oil where you can. Sauces, salads, frying, cooking with it.
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Apr 15, 2015 18:34
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Don't cook with olive oil, its hella bad for you. Eat it uncooked, its great, but it turned out to be quite bad for you to cook in it. Frying with animal fat or some different vegetable oil is preferred now.
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Apr 15, 2015 18:43
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It's fine just don't burn it.
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Crap, is there anywhere I can read about that? I haven't really been cooking with it, mostly adding it to my pasta sauces and salads, also greasing pizza paper with it. e: oh it's a smoke point thing. Yeah don't let it smoke loga mira has a new favorite as of 19:02 on Apr 15, 2015 |
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loga mira posted:Crap, is there anywhere I can read about that? I haven't really been cooking with it, mostly adding it to my pasta sauces and salads, also greasing pizza paper with it. Yeah, extra virgin olive oil isn't good for frying because it has too low a smoke point and burns. The smoke point for extra-virgin olive oil can vary, but it tops out around 375o F. Frying can require temperatures over 375o F, so extra-virgin olive oil is a bad choice, especially when you consider that oils need to be preheated above the cooking temperature to allow for cooling when the food is added. Using it in place of butter as a flavored fat on things like peas and corn is fine, it isn't heated above the smoke point and retains its subtle flavors, although peas and/or corn with butter is also delicious. You can also use "pure" or "refined" olive oil for frying, which has a much higher smoke point.
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Apr 15, 2015 19:43
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If you need something to fry in, use rapeseed oil (or canola oil as it's called in the US).
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I've been using avacado oil for everything since it's affordable at costco right now (still too expensive to deep fry anything with but I don't do that much anyway) and it's pretty great, 500F smoke point and doesn't impart any flavor or odor.
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so I found this I don't know what it is. Looks like... bread and bologna cake. With pickles and... pickled cabbage? And mayo probably. It makes me uncomfortable you guys
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Apr 15, 2015 21:49
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The saddest Monte Cristo. drat now I want a Hot Deli sandwich.
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cowboythreespeech posted:so I found this As just a sandwich it doesn't sound so horrible but is that loving fondant that it's wrapped in? What the tapdancing christ. e: or is that the bologna? That belongs inside what are you doing nooo 
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Rigged Death Trap posted:The saddest Monte Cristo. bennigans bro, I didn't realize a proper Monte Cristo was actually battered and deep fried.
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im pooping! posted:bennigans bro, I didn't realize a proper Monte Cristo was actually battered and deep fried. I had a Bennigan's Monte Cristo once. Lord only knows how I live to tell the tale.
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