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Has ORD suddenly become a magical fantasy wonderland? I always thought that was the absolute worst airport to transfer through.
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Sassafras fucked around with this message at 07:42 on Apr 28, 2015 |
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Sassafras posted:That's a deliberate design feature so that you don't have to wait ages at the baggage carousel which makes people crankier than a long walk. If no checked bags, oh well, tough! What makes me cranky is people shuffling along at 1 km/h. I've just been on an airplane for 9 loving hours, let's get the blood flowing!
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quote:Rime posted: Pimpmust posted:Or it's like all that sweet shale oil in California and like... 4 % of the initial claim. Going back a little to this previous discussion on oil and the Gatwick find but something funny happened today: https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/gatwick-oil-gusher-claims-wildly-165413266.html quote:UK Oil & Gas Investments accused of making 'misleading' statements about scale of oil held on the Weald near Gatwick Airport http://uk.businessinsider.com/ukog-...ill-2015-4?r=US quote:The company that discovered 100 billion barrels of oil near a London airport just admitted it doesn't actually know how much oil is there http://news.sky.com/story/1465217/oil-find-near-gatwick-clarified-by-owner quote:The company which reported a massive upgrade to an oil find near Gatwick Airport has conceded it was not in a position to properly size it up. That went fast There's more in each link if you're interested.
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HookShot posted:YVR is pretty good by international airport standards except for how they designed it so you have like a ten minute walk to customs when you arrive. It's nice, but it irks me to no end that they have the entire thing done up inside like a goddamn Rainforest Cafe (remember those?) and I have to help pay for that nonsense every time I fly out of there. Pearson is perfectly sensible by comparison. That could be their slogan, even: YYZ: Canada's AMS. edit: Someone once tried defending YVR's palatial decorations by saying that "world class cities should have world class airports". I 'd so hard at that, as they got the relationship entirely backwards - the best cities all have terrible airports! Lexicon fucked around with this message at 17:06 on Apr 15, 2015 |
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What Pearson is loving retarded. Transitioning from international to domestic is why one of my life goals is to get into a fistfight with a professional ~starchitect Also shut your whore mouth. Schiphol loving rules.
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Lexicon posted:It's nice, but it irks me to no end that they have the entire thing done up inside like a goddamn Rainforest Cafe (remember those?) and I have to help pay for that nonsense every time I fly out of there. I think AMS has a very nice airport (and about 100x better-planned than YYZ), and while it's not my cup of tea as a city, I think it would still rank on a list of the world's best. Singapore, Hong Kong and Tokyo likewise, from what I've heard (especially Singapore). Madrid's new terminal is quite nice too, provided you don't mind a bit of walking. I'm flying through Heathrow terminal 5 in a few weeks, we'll see how I like that one too.
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Cultural Imperial posted:Schiphol loving rules. It's true, it's probably the best airport I've ever been to in the world.
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Pimpmust posted:Going back a little to this previous discussion on oil and the Gatwick find but something funny happened today: Hah, thanks for the update, that is hilarious. So much for the UK being energy independent!
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PT6A posted:I think AMS has a very nice airport (and about 100x better-planned than YYZ) I phrased that poorly. I just meant that AMS is a sensible airport. YYZ's international => domestic thing is indeed stupid. I had forgotten about that. I was really just talking about the fact that it looks clean and airporty, and that a photo of its interior wouldn't be mistaken for a still of the ape stronghold from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, unlike YVR.
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PT6A posted:It's true, it's probably the best airport I've ever been to in the world. Schipol does rock, but Dubai's airport is amazing. Too bad the city sucks. Canadian content, NS film credit protest going on now.
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Yeah gently caress you landlord!!!
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# ? Apr 15, 2015 17:43 |
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I don't get the love for Dubai. Incredibly sterile airport. Used to travel internationally on business a lot before going back to school, Singapore and Hong Kong were great in terms of getting in and out. Tokyo had good amenities. JFK and LGA were nightmares. Heathrow even worse. In terms of airlines, can't beat Singapore Airlines although the first class food options on JAL/ANA were the best ever.
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http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...rticle23959859/quote:“The decline in commodity prices is having a large effect on income, with Canada’s real gross domestic income (GDI) decreasing by 0.7 per cent in the fourth quarter of 2014. Canada’s terms of trade declined by about 8 per cent in the fourth quarter and are estimated to have continued to deteriorate in the first quarter of 2015 … A number of signals suggest that the reduction in domestic incomes, profits and wealth associated with this deterioration is already affecting household spending.” ~*~*~*~*S O F T L A N D I N G*~*~*~*~
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Lexicon posted:YYZ's international => domestic thing is indeed stupid. I had forgotten about that. I was really just talking about the fact that it looks clean and airporty, and that a photo of its interior wouldn't be mistaken for a still of the ape stronghold from Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, unlike YVR. It's better than what they had planned with having people commute from Pearson to a different airport in the east. Which ended up happening with Dorval and Mirabel. That ended well. Pearson's always had a pretty beleaguered history, with huge terminal space issues in the 70s, and any airport expansion opposed by the people who lived around there. Apparently I should have spent more time admiring Schiphol because I don't remember much about it, other than I was able to navigate it pretty effectively at 5 AM, exhausted and still kinda stoned.
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Dreylad posted:Apparently I should have spent more time admiring Schiphol because I don't remember much about it, other than I was able to navigate it pretty effectively at 5 AM, exhausted and still kinda stoned. That's basically what I remember about it too, though I wasn't stoned. It's not an amazing piece of architecture or anything, as I recall, it's just the easiest airport to use, navigate and access that I've ever seen. And, really, isn't that the whole point of an airport? Amenities and architecture are nice touches, but functionality has to be number one. I also found IAH very easy to navigate, even between terminals. I'm hoping Heathrow isn't too terrible. I'm flying BA the whole way and I'm staying in transit, so I should have a fairly easy go of things, from what I've heard. I'm told that, provided you don't have to change terminals or leave, it's at least pleasant.
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All of you loving people that go to Amsterdam to get stoned please go kill yourself. What is otherwise probably one of the nicest places in the world to live is partially ruined by weed tourists. Unironically, the suburbs of Amsterdam are sublime places to visit.
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Cultural Imperial posted:http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repo...rticle23959859/ Has there ever been a crash that people in power predicted? Instead of just saying "oh things look bad but it will all be fine"
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etalian posted:Vancouver is hilarious since it has no jobs but has SF housing price ridiculous. It's different though. Both places have absurdly expensive real estate, but renting in Vancouver is dramatically cheaper than SF. The cost of renting in SF is completely absurd with 1Br being $3k+ being the norm, whereas in Vancouver it's "only" ~$1200. If you hunt around it's still possible to find something for under $1k. As a result if you can cobble together a down payment it seems very much worth it to buy in SF vs renting. I have no idea what causes this odd dynamic of super high rents in SF. High housing prices in Vancouver has not caused a similar sky high rent. There are tons of software folks getting big 6 figure salaries in SF so I guess they're bidding up all the rentals across the city but not as many buying houses? Everyone I know in SF immediately tried to buy a house because the rent was so high. Given the salaries in SF the price of housing doesn't seem that bad...
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triplexpac posted:Has there ever been a crash that people in power predicted? Instead of just saying "oh things look bad but it will all be fine" There are always people that predict the crash, they just tend to be in the vast minority.
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Femtosecond posted:I have no idea what causes this odd dynamic of super high rents in SF. It's the least odd dynamic in the world. Rents are paid for out of current income; so high income implies high rent. That's why Vancouver rent is pretty low in comparison - huge swaths of the working population earn peanuts. Houses are, crucially, not paid for out of current income. They are paid for with credit or existing wealth. As the former becomes cheaper and/or more lax, it supports ever ascending prices - an effect that can be orthogonal to income.
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Cultural Imperial posted:All of you loving people that go to Amsterdam to get stoned please go kill yourself. What is otherwise probably one of the nicest places in the world to live is partially ruined by weed tourists. I agree. I did it, and I wish I hadn't, and I wish that other people wouldn't. It was the least fun part of being in Amsterdam, and the stoned jackasses wandering around made everything so much worse.
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Lexicon posted:It's the least odd dynamic in the world. Rents are paid for out of current income; so high income implies high rent. That's why Vancouver rent is pretty low in comparison - huge swaths of the working population earn peanuts. Right I understand that mechanism. I guess what I mean is that it's odd to me because the balance of rent to housing costs seems a bit off where I'd expect it to be. Really now that I'm thinking of it, it's clearly SF that's the "normal" market, and Vancouver is the "odd" one as some housing prices in Vancouver have no relationship to the average income. The difference in rent/house prices between SF and Vancouver I think lend weight to the argument that outside money is substantially impacting the Vancouver market.
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Also [Airport Chat] clearly Gander is the best airport in all of Canada. http://www.dwell.com/rewind/article/aviation-preservation#3 It sounds like it's under risk of demolition, but people at least recognize there's some heritage value here. I hope they can come up with some solution. https://www.heritagecanada.org/en/issues-campaigns/top-ten-endangered/explore-past-listings/newfoundland-and-labrador/gander-internati
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Femtosecond posted:Right I understand that mechanism. I guess what I mean is that it's odd to me because the balance of rent to housing costs seems a bit off where I'd expect it to be. I've made this exact point in conversation numerous times in the past. Exogenous* money has to be a factor, because the wages to support such an expensive real estate market by and large don't exist in Vancouver itself. Loose credit of course is a big issue also, but the credit terms are largely country-wide (CMHC etc) whereas Vancouver has a uniquely large price to rent disparity. * No, that doesn't automatically mean China!!!1 It just means external-to-Vancouver-itself Lexicon fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Apr 15, 2015 |
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biking through Amsterdam was a lot of fun, as was going down the canal on a friend's houseboat, and it apparently has the highest number of museums per km2 in europe, which I can believe because I went to a dozen of them over three days. The Rembrandt House was one of the highlights for me. I only get stoned at the camper hostel the night before I was leaving.
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Or cheap credit domestically.
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I kinda hated the amstedam airport because there was nowhere to sit but on the floor while you were waiting for your flight. No seating at all in the actual gate waiting hallways.
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Cultural Imperial posted:All of you loving people that go to Amsterdam to get stoned please go kill yourself. What is otherwise probably one of the nicest places in the world to live is partially ruined by weed tourists. The Netherlands are my favorite place in the world. The architecture, culture, music scene, food, beer, people, and landscape all appeal to me. I'm going to Defqon 1 this June it's gonna be one of the best moments of my life. Amsterdam isn't the only good city. If someone told me I could go live in Utrecht I'd drop everything and leave in an instant.
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PT6A posted:And also Pearson is a terrible, garbage airport. I haven't been to JFK or LAX, so I can't compare those, but YYZ is definitely worse than AMS, about equal with Frankfurt, and significantly worse than IAH. Pearson is a loving paradise compared to Newark, the reigning shithole of Airports. You need to fly more if you think IAH is a good airport, Christ. My current favorite is SLC but I'm sure it's been renovated to poo poo recently like Logan's and Cincinnati did.
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Femtosecond posted:Also [Airport Chat] clearly Gander is the best airport in all of Canada. http://www.dwell.com/rewind/article/aviation-preservation#3 Considering the crucial role it played as 9/11 was happening, I feel like closure would be an irresponsible option. Planes will continue to have emergencies. Also, WestJet could consider using it as a stopover on its way to Europe, because they are retards who imagine that people will enjoy flying transatlantic on a tiny, lovely Boeing 737 with economy-class seating. I mean, Dublin and Glasgow? Give me a loving break, it's like they introduced those routes just because they could. Yet still no direct flights to Havana, no matter how many times I ask them.
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Kraftwerk posted:Amsterdam isn't the only good city. If someone told me I could go live in Utrecht I'd drop everything and leave in an instant. Yeah my one big regret when I was in Netherlands was not going to visit Utretch. some dutch girls I met in paris sold me on it pretty quickly, but there wasn't enough time.
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I love the Ottawa airport. But at the same time, gently caress Ottawa and the assholes who think that city deserves an awesome airport.
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sbaldrick posted:Pearson is a loving paradise compared to Newark, the reigning shithole of Airports. You need to fly more if you think IAH is a good airport, Christ. My current favorite is SLC but I'm sure it's been renovated to poo poo recently like Logan's and Cincinnati did. I made it across terminals in IAH in 15 minutes to catch a tight connection after United and Air Canada had both done their best to gently caress me leaving Calgary. That simply couldn't be done in YYZ, and it would be a loving struggle in most other large hubs, if not outright impossible (LHR or FRA? Forget about it!). Also Pappadeaux's was delicious, and they served Shiner Bock in the United Club.
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What the actual gently caress does two pages of discussing airports around the world have to do with the Canadian Debt Bubble?
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It's social marking. Basically the most Vancouver way of passive aggressively telling you we're better than you.
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Rime posted:What the actual gently caress does two pages of discussing airports around the world have to do with the Canadian Debt Bubble? we're all gonna be too poor to ever see them again
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Cultural Imperial posted:I love the Ottawa airport. But at the same time, gently caress Ottawa and the assholes who think that city deserves an awesome airport. The Ottawa airport loving sucks, gently caress the stupid international lane that always disembarks at the far end. Rime posted:What the actual gently caress does two pages of discussing airports around the world have to do with the Canadian Debt Bubble? PT6A posted:I made it across terminals in IAH in 15 minutes to catch a tight connection after United and Air Canada had both done their best to gently caress me leaving Calgary. That simply couldn't be done in YYZ, and it would be a loving struggle in most other large hubs, if not outright impossible (LHR or FRA? Forget about it!).
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sbaldrick posted:Pearson is a loving paradise compared to Newark, the reigning shithole of Airports. You need to fly more if you think IAH is a good airport, Christ. My current favorite is SLC but I'm sure it's been renovated to poo poo recently like Logan's and Cincinnati did. You misspelled "LaGuardia." Newark is easily the best of the NYC-area airports. Orlando is a pretty awful airport. But that may be due more to the clientele than to the facilities.
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