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Megazver posted:That one's never not hilarious. Do you have the one where he confesses he struggles with dark, mohammedan desires? I can't find it. Found it! ". . . now you know your lowest of moments are my highest of moments. The reason why I am so disgusted by the Leftwingers constantly tempting victims of same-sex attraction to give into their filthy sexual desires is not because my sexual desires are Christian and clean, but because they are Mohammedan and filthy."
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Megazver posted:Found it! I don't generally like to Internet psychoanalyse, but god drat does Wright need to find a cute Middle Eastern guy and have the weirdest, kinkiest sex that his hideously repressed mind can comprehend. If the Sad Puppies were focusing their energies on making that happen rather than rigging the Hugos, the sci-fi community would be an infinitely better, healthier place.
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Apr 14, 2015 01:31
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Hey for better or worse Worldcon and the Hugos haven't had this much attention in decades! Ain't no such thing as bad publicity, right?
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I'm about three chapters into The Carpet Makers, and despite the intriguing premise, I'm actually finding it quite boring. Does it pick up at some point, or should I just throw in the towel?
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Megazver posted:Found it! I like his books but loving lmao is he nuts.
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Darth Walrus posted:I don't generally like to Internet psychoanalyse, but god drat does Wright need to find a cute Middle Eastern guy and have the weirdest, kinkiest sex that his hideously repressed mind can comprehend. Now, now. There's no evidence that he doesn't want to have filthy degrading sex with a woman. Remember kids, it 's the filthy degrading sex that's important. Not who you have it with. 
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Deptfordx posted:Now, now. There's no evidence that he doesn't want to have filthy degrading sex with a woman. I think 'Mohammedan' refers to how many women he wants to have sex with. More than just the one, the pervert. Megazver fucked around with this message at 10:55 on Apr 14, 2015 |
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Deptfordx posted:Now, now. There's no evidence that he doesn't want to have filthy degrading sex with a woman. Dude feels personally threatened by the homosexual agenda giving license to his darkest sexual desires. Hard to read it another way.
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Darth Walrus posted:I don't generally like to Internet psychoanalyse, but god drat does Wright need to find a cute Middle Eastern guy and have the weirdest, kinkiest sex that his hideously repressed mind can comprehend. That might do wonders for him, but what cute Middle Eastern guy deserves to have John C Wright inflicted upon them?
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Autonomous Monster posted:That might do wonders for him, but what cute Middle Eastern guy deserves to have John C Wright inflicted upon them? Jian Ghomeshi?
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Seldom Posts posted:Jian Ghomeshi? Ziiiiiiing Still, that would be unnecessary cruelty to Big Ears Teddy. He's been through too much already.
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:popcorn: quote:John C Wright http://crimeandtheforcesofevil.com/blog/2015/04/since-some-puppies-are-deleting-things/
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Apr 15, 2015 01:11
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He seems very "<tips fedora> m'lady"
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TOOT BOOT posted:He seems very "<tips fedora> m'lady" gently caress, he uses the Shadow, an actual fedora-wearer, as his personal icon. (As someone who enjoys the original Shadow pulps, this annoys me to no end.)
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Apr 15, 2015 11:53
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Thank you, Sci-Fi thread, for allowing me to cross a potential author off any future purchases I'll be making. 
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I enjoyed The Golden Age and sequels despite the Ayn Rand and logic-denial elements, but apparently those were written before the man went completely nuts.
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Selachian posted:gently caress, he uses the Shadow, an actual fedora-wearer, as his personal icon. (As someone who enjoys the original Shadow pulps, this annoys me to no end.) Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? John C. Wright knows... because it's sure as hell lurking in his.
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KU4O1CY/ref=oh_aui_d_detailpage_o00_?ie=UTF8&psc=1 The Grace of Kings by Ken Liu is out. I haven't read it at all yet, but I'm predicting already this will sweep some awards and be talked about a bunch etc. etc. Ken Liu has been on a loving tear recently; I don't know how he has time to do any of this poo poo. He has like a published translation and/or short in almost every issue of Clarke's World, he's working on translating book three of the Three Body Problem, and he's writing an epic Fantasy trilogy inspired by "Negative space in classical Chinese paintings," that is already getting compared to Game of Thrones as far as scope. I'm going to start reading it today, so maybe it's total poo poo, but it seems doubtful!
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Groke posted:I enjoyed The Golden Age and sequels despite the Ayn Rand and logic-denial elements, but apparently those were written before the man went completely nuts. If you enjoyed that, don't let his obvious craziness turn you off the Count to a Trillion books. Posthuman superscientists warring over the ages by manipulating the human species into a myriad of forms based on each superscientist's particular philosophy. Wright is really imaginative, if nothing else.
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angel opportunity posted:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KU4O1CY/ref=oh_aui_d_detailpage_o00_?ie=UTF8&psc=1 It's pretty good. I'm almost done with it. I can see it winning some awards, but not sweeping.
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Ken Liu's shorts tend to be really good so I'm excited to see what he can do with a full-length work. I wouldn't be surprised if he sweeps, to be honest. The SFF community absolutely loves him and they tend to prop up the people they universally love (Ann Leckie, for example).
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Connie Willis wrote up a nice post explaining why she has declined to be a presenter at this year's Hugo awards.
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:Ken Liu's shorts tend to be really good so I'm excited to see what he can do with a full-length work. I've enjoyed all of Ken Liu's shorts that I've read, and he has a Michael Swanwick-like ability to punch you in the gut with his work. I'm interested in reading Grace of Kings but I tend to wait a while on fantasy series to at least get a few books out if not finish. The awards always have a few favorites--Mike Resnick being possibly the most-nominated author for the Hugos as an example, or Connie Willis basically winning anytime she publishes something. It doesn't bother me too much. Liu might be able to sweep but I haven't heard the sort of rumbling major buzz coming up around Grace of Kings that Ancillary Justice got, or even Hild which won none of the several things it was nominated for, a tragedy.
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I dunno, there's been a bit of a buzz about Grace of Kings in the blogs I follow. Like, just today: http://io9.com/ken-lius-grace-of-kings-is-the-bold-epic-fantasy-weve-b-1697843114
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He's been writing some interesting articles lately, like this one on translating nineteenth-century science fiction into Chinese and Japanese (and features a cameo from Lu Xun): http://io9.com/the-heroic-translators-who-reinvented-classic-science-1696944844 - and something else, perhaps his AMA, talking about how he wrote the book.
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I just finished Grace of Kings. If you are worried about it needing more books in the series to pick it up, just pick it up now. The story is fully self-contained. The book is interesting for me because I enjoyed it almost in spite of some of the writing. It's fairly obvious to me it's his first novel and he's used to writing shorter stories. The plot is excellent, and it had some twists I wasn't expecting, but there was just something that was a little "off" to me that I can't fully explain. The character all had motivations and were realistic, yet at the same time could feel like they had little depth. I still really enjoyed it, and I would recommend it. The ending was excellent, and revised my opinion upwards into saying he might be able to sweep awards. I look forward to seeing where he goes with the world, as I enjoyed his world building a lot. He also responded to me on Facebook around 3 minutes after I asked him a question about his translation of 3 body problem, and frankly, I'll support most authors that are willing to do that.
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Man I picked up the first book of that Marko Kloos MilSci series that was nominated for a Hugo since it was a quid and my god. It's absolute pulp trash with the thinnest plot and characters i've read in ages. Like some of the worst self published stuff on Amazon. I know the Hugos are Dumb and Bad but this stuff getting nominated for anything just really makes me sad when there's been so many incredible scifi/fantasy books out the past 5/6 years or so.
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ed balls balls man posted:Man I picked up the first book of that Marko Kloos MilSci series that was nominated for a Hugo since it was a quid and my god. It's absolute pulp trash with the thinnest plot and characters i've read in ages. Like some of the worst self published stuff on Amazon. I know the Hugos are Dumb and Bad but this stuff getting nominated for anything just really makes me sad when there's been so many incredible scifi/fantasy books out the past 5/6 years or so. Well, to his credit, Marko Kloos has decided to withdraw from the Hugos because he doesn't want to be associated with Vox Day. Annie Bellet, whose "Goodnight Stars" was up in Best Short Story, has also withdrawn.
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Haha, Wright's "Yes Virginia, There is a Santa Claus" was disqualified from the Best Novelette category because he self-published it on his website in 2013 and now the various flavors of puppies are losing their poo poo because Scalzi serialized Old Man's War on his blog years before it was formally published, but he still made the Best Novel ballot in 2006.
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ed balls balls man posted:Man I picked up the first book of that Marko Kloos MilSci series that was nominated for a Hugo since it was a quid and my god. It's absolute pulp trash with the thinnest plot and characters i've read in ages. Like some of the worst self published stuff on Amazon. I know the Hugos are Dumb and Bad but this stuff getting nominated for anything just really makes me sad when there's been so many incredible scifi/fantasy books out the past 5/6 years or so. I read some of that a year or so ago and it didn't seem any worse than most of the Scalzi I've read.
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Ornamented Death posted:Haha, Wright's "Yes Virginia, There is a Santa Claus" was disqualified from the Best Novelette category because he self-published it on his website in 2013 and now the various flavors of puppies are losing their poo poo because Scalzi serialized Old Man's War on his blog years before it was formally published, but he still made the Best Novel ballot in 2006. That....sounds like a legit complaint to me?
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"Dune World" was serialized in 1964 and together with its sequel "Prophet of Dune" was accepted in 1966 as "Dune". "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" was serialized in 1965-66 and was nominated as a novel in both 1966 and 1967. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugo_Award_for_Best_Novel#cite_note-DW-18
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I think if this had been a serialized novel, it would be fine, but this was just a reprinted novelette so the WorldCon folks probably made the right call. There was also a question about Wright's novella, as it was previously published as a short story and later significantly expanded, so it stayed on the ballot in the novella category (ditto for Kratman).
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Scalzi's belief on his blog is just that publishing and how people think of something being on the Internet has changed in the last ten years. Also, I believe the staff for the Hugos change year over year, so it's not the same people organising it this year as in 2006 and they aren't obligated to make the same calls.
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Peel posted:Scalzi's belief on his blog is just that publishing and how people think of something being on the Internet has changed in the last ten years. Also, I believe the staff for the Hugos change year over year, so it's not the same people organising it this year as in 2006 and they aren't obligated to make the same calls. A further revisitation of "publication" is probably on the slate for discussion for later years, along with the nomination process and etcetera. I can't say that the Puppies have no point there, but Scalzi is probably right: times change. Ten years ago, putting up one's fiction for free was some quaint thing Cory Doctorow weirdos did, these days it's a common promotional tactic even with big name authors and anthologies or magazines gathering up an already-famous story for publication does sort of seem like a reprint. In other news, I also decided to stop waffling and just buy Grace of Kings based on at least this thread's enthusiasm for it. I look forward to being punched in the emotions repeatedly.
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Peel posted:Scalzi's belief on his blog is just that publishing and how people think of something being on the Internet has changed in the last ten years. Also, I believe the staff for the Hugos change year over year, so it's not the same people organising it this year as in 2006 and they aren't obligated to make the same calls. gently caress precedent man, what's it ever done for us?
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Groke posted:I enjoyed The Golden Age and sequels despite the Ayn Rand and logic-denial elements, but apparently those were written before the man went completely nuts. I found it unbelievably dry. There are very few books I start and don't finish, but this was one of them. No engagement with the characters at all. This was before I learned about the author, and I have pretty much no reason to go back now!
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ed balls balls man posted:Man I picked up the first book of that Marko Kloos MilSci series that was nominated for a Hugo since it was a quid and my god. It's absolute pulp trash with the thinnest plot and characters i've read in ages. Like some of the worst self published stuff on Amazon. I know the Hugos are Dumb and Bad but this stuff getting nominated for anything just really makes me sad when there's been so many incredible scifi/fantasy books out the past 5/6 years or so. I'm just amazed that somebody enjoyed the book enough to remember it, let alone put it on a "This is 'Popular' (for White Men) Sci Fi" slate. gently caress, I'm pretty sure there's a Baen book released in the right time frame that was more readable.
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ed balls balls man posted:Like some of the worst self published stuff on Amazon. Haha nope, far far far from the worst
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Srice posted:That....sounds like a legit complaint to me? thehomemaster posted:gently caress precedent man, what's it ever done for us? You are assuming they are arguing good faith, rather than alleging a conspiracy after they hosed up and didn't familiarize themselves with the rules and how they have changed over the years.
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