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mikeraskol posted:Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr its just Skye surprised that she's a year older than she thought and the scene doesn't mean anything. Exactly.
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Yeah, something's up with the Afterlife place, including Skye's parents.Sir Nose posted:Did the mountain resort actually get called "Afterlife" in the show and I missed it, or is "Afterlife" just a nickname that's floating around here? Not only was the episode where we see it named Afterlife, but Lincoln said that they (the residents) call it the Afterlife.
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Apr 15, 2015 21:08
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Mymla posted:There's something up with that whole afterlife place. It's too much of a perfect utopian paradise for it not to have a million skeletons in the closet. It's being shown as a YA fiction cliche for sure, the special place for people just born different to everyone else complete with hot guy to show our heroine the ropes. I definitely agree it's shady though, Gordon just has far too much power over them for one thing. The only person besides Skye there I actually trust is Cal, weirdly. Another really great episode though. Bahrain lived up to the hype, and even knowing full well it would all go wrong it was still compelling. Whoever posted that Raina's OP powerset would only show her things that would cause her pain is a great read, if depressing as hell. And Fitz stole the show with that 30 second scene. Something I'm really enjoying is the constant implications that Gordon and his Inhuman society (and it is his) are massive pieces of poo poo. His untermensch insult to Cal, that's he's just a science experiment and not one of the Pure powered people, his 'you wouldn't understand' spiel to Lincoln showing division between human passing and non-human passing Inhumans, the cultish jealousy among people that want to figuratively ascend, it's a hierarchical clusterfuck waiting to explode and no way does Skye's mum make it out when it does.
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Apr 15, 2015 21:09
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Then why is he hiding his super duper secret project? And not telling Simmons that she is actually making Deathlok batteries? Burn down both sides and start over fresh. Compartmentalization. If Simmons were to ever get captured, brainwashed, come into contact with an evil mind-reader, etc., she can't divulge information she doesn't know. Likewise only giving out information on a need-to-know basis helps to protect your assets because it makes them less valuable to capture. Of course, problems can arise when a person suddenly needs to know information they could have been given but weren't because it wasn't deemed important at the time. As for the Skye family dinner, it was definitely awkward but I think it was just meant to show one of the unexpected things Skye would have to deal with when re-uniting with her family. The real main point of the dinner scene is that it was something they could show us which Raina would have a dream about and Sparky Guy could see actually happen. That being said they did give a weird emphasis to when he birthday is. Having two characters tell the same story, and state the same information, in the same episode, to the same person, is highly unusual.
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Apr 15, 2015 21:09
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^This person said it better than I did.mikeraskol posted:Orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr its just Skye surprised that she's a year older than she thought and the scene doesn't mean anything. Probably, but that whole exchange was awkward and it felt like they lingered on that scene and confusion a bit too long, so I can totally see why someone would think it has some relevance.
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Apr 15, 2015 21:10
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Metropolis posted:As for the Skye family dinner, it was definitely awkward but I think it was just meant to show one of the unexpected things Skye would have to deal with when re-uniting with her family. The real main point of the dinner scene is that it was something they could show us which Raina would have a dream about and Sparky Guy could see actually happen. That being said they did give a weird emphasis to when he birthday is. Having two characters tell the same story, and state the same information, in the same episode, to the same person, is highly unusual. Not only that by the entire talk about how when she calls a place home it all goes to poo poo.
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Apr 15, 2015 21:14
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Aphrodite posted:That's probably the reason for the look, yeah. This is not true at all - roles are cast with a pretty large age range otherwise you wouldn't get situations like actor A plays the mom of character B but the actor playing character B is only 10 years younger than actor A. Which happens all the time. Some one earlier in the thread pointed out the there is a 2 year age gap between the actor and the Flash. Wooooo. It doesn't make a difference.
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Apr 15, 2015 21:17
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Mr Beens posted:This is not true at all - roles are cast with a pretty large age range otherwise you wouldn't get situations like actor A plays the mom of character B but the actor playing character B is only 10 years younger than actor A. Which happens all the time.
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Apr 15, 2015 21:24
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Dexo posted:Probably, but that whole exchange was awkward and it felt like they lingered on that scene and confusion a bit too long, so I can totally see why someone would think it has some relevance. Yeah I think that's all it is. Not that there may not be something up with Skye's mom -- this show enjoys taking parental figures and having them gently caress with their progeny.
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Apr 15, 2015 21:43
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Metropolis posted:Sparky Guy Oh yeah. Thanks for reminding me of the best nickname yet: Sparkplug. 
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Apr 15, 2015 22:04
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Chloe Bennett is great, she has a real emotional maturity in her acting that I wouldn't think she was only 22 when she started this. I honestly thought she was close to thirty.
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Apr 15, 2015 22:04
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Maybe they are making her older because actors age way faster than their on-screen characters due to production schedules. So a year in production time might only play out over a few weeks/months over the course of the season. If you make your younger actors play older roles they will catch up to eachother eventually but not be such a ridiculous gap down the line. They may be planning to use Skye well into the 2019 Avengers movies where she still may be 26-27 in the story.
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Metropolis posted:That being said they did give a weird emphasis to when he birthday is. Having two characters tell the same story, and state the same information, in the same episode, to the same person, is highly unusual. It was just a bone Skye's mom threw to Cal. He was so HAPPY to tell Skye the story of her birth, it wasn't as if she was going to go "oh, sorry, I already told her all this." Also, since Skye already knew the story, it diffuses some of the tension since none of it is a surprise to her. In short, the redundancy was just Skye's mom breaking the ice.
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Apr 15, 2015 22:19
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Dexo posted:Probably, but that whole exchange was awkward and it felt like they lingered on that scene and confusion a bit too long, so I can totally see why someone would think it has some relevance. I think it was INTENDED to be a little awkward, because skye and her mom already knew that skye already knew all that, and were basically lying to throw cal a bone.
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Apr 15, 2015 22:20
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Mymla posted:There's something up with that whole afterlife place. It's too much of a perfect utopian paradise for it not to have a million skeletons in the closet. The one guy that Skye's Mom (what is her actual name?) seemed really nervous when she spoke to him (the one that was going to go out hiking). And more in a "vaguely scared" than "oh god the boss is talking to me" sort of way.
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Apr 15, 2015 22:22
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Azhais posted:(what is her actual name?) Jiaying.
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32MB OF ESRAM posted:Maybe they are making her older because actors age way faster than their on-screen characters due to production schedules. So a year in production time might only play out over a few weeks/months over the course of the season. If you make your younger actors play older roles they will catch up to eachother eventually but not be such a ridiculous gap down the line. They may be planning to use Skye well into the 2019 Avengers movies where she still may be 26-27 in the story. The MCU is supposedly progressing in realtime at this point, so by 2019, Skye will be 30/31 years old
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Apr 15, 2015 22:25
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Eva's mind-controlling daughter kind of struck me as a more deranged version of Luna Maximoff who became a kind of emotion manipulating empath after being forced into the mists.
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Apr 15, 2015 22:27
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Slashrat posted:The MCU is supposedly progressing in realtime at this point, so by 2019, Skye will be 30/31 years old That's probably a pretty smart thing to do. It'll be weird if a character doesn't show up in a movie though. like "Hey Hulk, where were you all last year?" "Oh u know, doin Hulk Stuff  " "Oh, that's cool. Welp, see you in 2017!"
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Apr 15, 2015 22:32
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Azhais posted:The one guy that Skye's Mom (what is her actual name?) seemed really nervous when she spoke to him (the one that was going to go out hiking). And more in a "vaguely scared" than "oh god the boss is talking to me" sort of way. There's also the Elders to think of. I don't get the impression Jiayang is an elder, though. She's just Afterlife's superintendent.
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Apr 15, 2015 22:35
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Kind of an out there theory: They've said categorically that scarlet witch and quicksilver are not inhumans, but what if the source of their powers is? Whitehall was able to take on some form of Jiaying's power, and It's reasonable to think that Cal's whatever-he-has might have been developed with his knowledge of Inhumans, or just straight up with Jiaying's help. Then there's TAHITI, inhumans are a hybrid of kree and human, and the resurrection process involved bits of kree biology.
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Error 404 posted:Then there's TAHITI, inhumans are a hybrid of kree and human Not exactly, they're just a product of kree genetic engineering. You wouldn't call those glow in the dark cats that got made a while back human cat hybrids.
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Apr 15, 2015 22:39
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reignonyourparade posted:Not exactly, they're just a product of kree genetic engineering. You wouldn't call those glow in the dark cats that got made a while back human cat hybrids. I thought they were human/kree. My bad.
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Apr 15, 2015 22:41
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Charles Gnarwin posted:"Try the hot sauce! I thinned it out a bit because the spice must flow" This post needs more love.
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Error 404 posted:Kind of an out there theory: Where did they say that quicksilver and scarlet witch aren't inhumans?
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Apr 15, 2015 22:56
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Slashrat posted:Where did they say that quicksilver and scarlet witch aren't inhumans? Various press releases and interviews.
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Apr 15, 2015 22:58
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Slashrat posted:Where did they say that quicksilver and scarlet witch aren't inhumans? Some interview back around the beginning of this season.
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Is that for an in-universe reason, or because of the licensing weirdness with those two characters?
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Apr 15, 2015 23:43
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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I just thought of something. We're building up to a crossover with Age of Ultron, Dethlok is following one of the guys experimenting with creating Enhanced, Coulson is building a large barracks/prison/dormatory/something-that-needs-cots, maybe Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch aren't the only experiments and Coulson is planning a large-scale rescue. As folks have said, Coulson's School for Gifted Youngsters, my idea is just where these characters may come from.
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Worth mentioning. Jiaying specifically mentioned that Eva stole a bunch of Terrigen crystals. She obviously used one on her daughter. What happened to the others? Were they confiscated by Shield (Hydra?) in Bahrain? The one that created Skye and Raina was found by Whitehall in the 40s. Sif and her Kree pal were after some crystals as well. I'm just wondering if this a nod that there are some crystals out in play somewhere.
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Bruceski posted:As folks have said, Coulson's School for Gifted Youngsters, my idea is just where these characters may come from. Now all we need is for Coulson to start losing his hair and have an accident that leaves him in a wheelchair.
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victorious posted:Now all we need is for Coulson to start losing his hair and have an accident that leaves him in a wheelchair. And maybe his TAHITI modifications would allow him to touch a terrigen crystal and gain mind powers, maybe the imperfect transition is what puts him in that wheelchair. 
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drat, what an episode.  Definitely up there with Turn, Turn, Turn, as one of the best so far.          Also, the girl playing Katya deserves a ton of props for being creepy as hell.
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Wow, they actually managed to deliver a story for the Cavalry that lived up to everything associated with it, including why everyone was so impressed and why May hated it. I agree, this is definitely one of their best.
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victorious posted:Now all we need is for Coulson to start losing his hair and have an accident that leaves him in a wheelchair.  : The wheelchair's a side effect of the terragenesis. Not much you can do, but it comes with perks. I get the closest parking spot now.
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I tried to check out this show right from jump and quickly realized I wanted nothing to do with it. Daredevil, however, has got me hooked back into Marvel's television efforts, and while I recognize that they're much different shows, I've heard that Agents improves drastically in quality, so I'm thinking about trying to wade back in. What episodes can I skip/where should I get back in?
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double negative posted:I tried to check out this show right from jump and quickly realized I wanted nothing to do with it. Daredevil, however, has got me hooked back into Marvel's television efforts, and while I recognize that they're much different shows, I've heard that Agents improves drastically in quality, so I'm thinking about trying to wade back in. What episodes can I skip/where should I get back in? It gets really good at Turn Turn Turn which is season 1, episode 17. You should probably watch at least some of what precedes it for setup and character building though. A lot of that stuff ends up paying off in season 2.
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double negative posted:I tried to check out this show right from jump and quickly realized I wanted nothing to do with it. Daredevil, however, has got me hooked back into Marvel's television efforts, and while I recognize that they're much different shows, I've heard that Agents improves drastically in quality, so I'm thinking about trying to wade back in. What episodes can I skip/where should I get back in? If you've seen previous episodes you can probably just jump in at Turn, Turn, Turn (1x17) and go from there. You'll be confused about various things, though, since you're jumping right into the middle of an ongoing plot, so if you want a better grounding then you'll have to wait for someone to give you an edited list.
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