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mind the walrus posted:Something tells me that even history education won't stop assholes from wanting to classify anyone who doesn't align with their perception of normal functioning with a brush of their choosing. Seriously even though it's far better than it used to be even 20-30 years ago we're going to look back on this period of history and be aghast at how blatantly incompetent mental healthcare is in our society. It's been that way every decade and will probably continue for another century or 2.
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It's basically like how at any point, you can look back at yourself five years prior and think what an idiot you were. That's not just me, right?
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pentyne posted:It's been that way every decade and will probably continue for another century or 2. Yes, that's more or less exactly what I said. 22 Eargesplitten posted:It's basically like how at any point, you can look back at yourself five years prior and think what an idiot you were. Not really. It's more like everyone knows already how awful everything is but there's no real way to expedite progress and the cold, hard fact is that the mentally ill need treatment right now and in most cases the incompetent treatment of today is still better than none at all. The reasons for this are complex and myriad and have to deal with the ugly nature of capitalism, human patience, the progress of medical science, and that many people are functionally mentally ill and treating those who are clinically mentally ill. Like imagine if your leg was on fire and the only thing you had nearby to help you out was a pile of salt that you can use to smother the flames. Putting your leg out in that salt is going to hurt like loving crazy and probably make things worse for your leg, but it's better than having nothing at all and letting the fire kill you. You're aware that water or fire blankets can theoretically exist, but you know that such things are not a reality for your forseeable future and your leg is on fire now. mind the walrus has a new favorite as of 06:02 on Apr 15, 2015 |
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Buick has these commercials where people are confused that nice looking are actually Buicks. I know they're working on rebranding. but I can't help but interpret the message as "Wait THIS one isn't a piece of poo poo!" I don't remember if it was poted here already, but Nintendo had a very short lived series of ads that basically said playing nintendo will ruin your life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvbg97S_zvg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-tcXbPo-wU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcfbAwSFeSk
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I though I'd share some vintage dumb marketing ideas from the Great War days. 
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Yvonmukluk posted:I though I'd share some vintage dumb marketing ideas from the Great War days. Those are amazing  As intrusive and irritating as advertising is now, it's amazing how it used to be even more blatant. P.T. Barnum's book has a bit about some advertising schemes, and they're hilarious. I can't find anything about it anywhere else, so I may just be getting fooled by P.T. Barnum, but according to him some guy painted a giant ad for his shoe polish on one of the pyramids. Understandably, people got upset, and the uproar got him a ton of publicity. There was also a guy who made pencils, and would dress up in armor and a sword, get a guy to play music, and then once a crowd came around, yell at them for being so dumb that he had to dress up in armor and a sword to make them pay any attention to how god drat great his pencils were.
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I once found a book at the community college I spent a year at called something like "The Greatest Scams" that was pretty old. I thought it'd be like, con artist stories, when in fact it was a book much like Barnum's, instructing in how to do olde tyme publicity stunts. One I remember off the top of my head involved getting one of those old fashioned cameras with a tripod and a curtain, setting it up on a boardwalk with a guy under the curtain, and two very outrageous tourist types falling over each other to pose for it. Once a crowd had gathered behind the camera to gawk at these weirdos, the cameraman flips over the curtain to reveal a sign advertising your store.
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Yvonmukluk posted:I though I'd share some vintage dumb marketing ideas from the Great War days. Dumb Great War marketing ideas from today:  http://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-32313043 quote:The supermarket giant Woolworths has taken down an online Anzac Day campaign in Australia after it attracted strong criticism on social media.
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Croccers posted:Gawd I love it when I hear this Ugh, I really hate that people literally have this mentality against raising minimum wages/giving living wages. If a business can't afford to pay fair wages, how is it a viable business?
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:Those drat employees eating up all of our profits. If only they'd just work for less money this wouldn't be a problem! It's entirely the employees sending this company down the toilet.
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Of course there is. Eat the rich and distribute their wages to the poor. What? I'm serious.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:It's basically like how at any point, you can look back at yourself five years prior and think what an idiot you were. This has happen to me in regards to watching stuff from as recently as when I was 16 which was less than 15 years ago. From shows like the Gilmore Girls to the Clerks Cartoon series to even stuff like early Penny Arcade comics, you can see a lot of stuff that just doesn't fly these days. In these cases casual derogatory statements about gay people.
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Spikeguy posted:This has happen to me in regards to watching stuff from as recently as when I was 16 which was less than 15 years ago. From shows like the Gilmore Girls to the Clerks Cartoon series to even stuff like early Penny Arcade comics, you can see a lot of stuff that just doesn't fly these days. In these cases casual derogatory statements about gay people. Friends is painful to rewatch for the same reason.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:Friends is painful to rewatch for the same reason. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsQ5za-J6I8
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Spikeguy posted:This has happen to me in regards to watching stuff from as recently as when I was 16 which was less than 15 years ago. From shows like the Gilmore Girls to the Clerks Cartoon series to even stuff like early Penny Arcade comics, you can see a lot of stuff that just doesn't fly these days. In these cases casual derogatory statements about gay people. Wait, in Gilmore Girls? A lot of stupid stuff was said in that show, and it's been a few years since I've seen it, but I don't remember more than one episode even talking about gay people.
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Choco1980 posted:I once found a book at the community college I spent a year at called something like "The Greatest Scams" that was pretty old. I thought it'd be like, con artist stories, when in fact it was a book much like Barnum's, instructing in how to do olde tyme publicity stunts. One I remember off the top of my head involved getting one of those old fashioned cameras with a tripod and a curtain, setting it up on a boardwalk with a guy under the curtain, and two very outrageous tourist types falling over each other to pose for it. Once a crowd had gathered behind the camera to gawk at these weirdos, the cameraman flips over the curtain to reveal a sign advertising your store. So is this the first commercial?
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PUGGERNAUT posted:Friends is painful to I never watched friends, so I might be missing some of the nostalgia.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:I never watched friends, so I might be missing some of the nostalgia. Could you be any more edgy. e: does no one even know the Chandler character Decrepus has a new favorite as of 05:07 on Apr 16, 2015 |
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Decrepus posted:Could you be any more edgy. I think friends is like the last unicorn, or labyrinth, or Milo and Otis: if you don't have nostalgia for it it suuuuuucks.
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Decrepus posted:Could you be any more edgy.
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I was 14 when Friends started. It seemed horrible then, and it never got better. I've seen episodes on and off throughout the years, and the only episode that was even remotely amusing to me was the one where the guys got the porn channel on their cable by mistake. I'm not trying to jump on a hipster train saying the show by saying I never liked the show, I just never was able to like that dumb, mean-spirited sarcastic goofy look-at-me style of comedy that seems to be most common from when Gen-Xers were in their 20's. Movies like "So I married an Axe Murderer" and "Singles" seem to come from the same place and I never really liked them either. Related, but the most recent Cracked After Hours episode talks about how the characters on the show were just as unlikable, hateful, selfish people as on Seinfeld, with none of the karmic punishments that show doled out.
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mind the walrus posted:Something tells me that even history education won't stop assholes from wanting to classify anyone who doesn't align with their perception of normal functioning with a brush of their choosing. Seriously even though it's far better than it used to be even 20-30 years ago we're going to look back on this period of history and be aghast at how blatantly incompetent mental healthcare is in our society. It reminds me of that Jobbik MP from Hungary who demanded the government there make a list of all the Jews living in Hungary.
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Huntersoninski posted:I think friends is like the last unicorn, or labyrinth, or Milo and Otis: if you don't have nostalgia for it it suuuuuucks. Last Unicorn and Labyrinth get passes for me because I'm able to enjoy them because of their obvious shortcomings in the same way I enjoy Doctor Who and Star Trek, even if they don't mean to me what they do to those who saw it as children. Milo and Otis was a favorite of mine growing up but when you hear about all the rumored animal cruelty it immediately loses all its appeal. Friends.... Friends generally works but it's also "Seinfeld for Gen X yuppies" with all the shortcomings you'd expect from that moniker.
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Pitch posted:He could easily have been around 10 years old when Friends went off the air. Yeah, Friends was still in the middle of (late on?) in its run when I was thirteen, and that's probably the lower end as far as "you're old enough to enjoy Friends." One of my buddies at school watched it, nobody else did, so it just wasn't on my radar. The next year, my folks shipped me to boarding school and the seniors didn't watch it, so I never developed nostalgia for it and it ended up being just another 90s sitcom to me  I don't think having an indifferent attitude towards it is edgy at all.
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Choco1980 posted:Related, but the most recent Cracked After Hours episode talks about how the characters on the show were just as unlikable, hateful, selfish people as on Seinfeld, with none of the karmic punishments that show doled out. This is really only remotely true about Ross and Rachel, the rest were generally good people and holy poo poo I'm posting about Friends now
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Ryoshi posted:This is really only remotely true about Ross and Rachel, the rest were generally good people and holy poo poo I'm posting about Friends now No they were all actually pretty terrible. Maybe not quite Seinfeld bad but they were not good people.
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Huntersoninski posted:I think friends is like the last unicorn, or labyrinth, or Milo and Otis: if you don't have nostalgia for it it suuuuuucks. I hated Friends when it was on originally (I was 8 when it started) but now that I'm in my late twenties I enjoy watching it when it's on TV because I can relate a lot more to the stories and characters. On the other end of the spectrum I saw Milo and Otis on TV last week and it suuuuuucked and is horribly dated and terrible now that I am not a childe.
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Pfft, forget Friends. If you were a 20 something Brit in the 90s you were watching This Life. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0eBu2i_j-8
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The 90's were, in general, pretty lovely in retrospect. I say this as a guy who spent his entire teen years in that decade. Does that make me a 90's kid? I have zero good nostalgia for that decade. I...What? Am I missing something here?
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I think Kellogg's is saying that Krave is poo poo?
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Apr 16, 2015 06:47
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Choco1980 posted:I...What? Am I missing something here? Hipster Whale is the studio that made Crossy Road, popular android/iphone Frogger clone. It still doesn't make sense.
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Choco1980 posted:The 90's were, in general, pretty lovely in retrospect. I say this as a guy who spent his entire teen years in that decade. Does that make me a 90's kid? I have zero good nostalgia for that decade. I think the rule of thumb is that the decade you're a child in tends to be way better in terms of culture than the decade your teens are in. I spent my early childhood in the 90s and have a fair amount of nostalgia for a lot of the pop culture and general feelings I remember, even if with hindsight a lot of it is hot salted garbage. Meanwhile I can point to like dozens of things about the 00s pop culture that make that decade absolute poo poo in my eyes, even if by any objective measure I'm being way too hard on it.
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I saw it on the Brands Saying Bae twitter and it was so baffling I had to post it here. I don't think I've ever seen a corporation's Twitter that didn't sound like an SEO robot or a painfully out of touch dad.
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PUGGERNAUT posted:I saw it on the Brands Saying Bae twitter and it was so baffling I had to post it here. Denny's is pretty good on Twitter and should contract out their social media services to other businesses. E: 
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I have seen some good Taco Bell tweets, and by good I mean it's slightly less obvious that it was created to make you buy poo poo.
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I don't use Twitter, but I checked the Denny's account and it had this.
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That's... actually pretty great, and a fun joke for the right kind of person. It kinda makes me wanna go to Denny's if I knew they weren't racist and wouldn't make me wait an hour and a half.
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