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Wol posted:YamatoCannon seemed like a smart guy whenever they had him on the desk this split, even if he was seemingly born without a sense of humour. I'd be willing to believe it's a positive move for the team. I hope Roccat isn't doesn't think a change in coaches will solve all their problems, though - they could probably do with excising the whole team except Vander and Jankos and rebuilding from the ground up, IMO. It's mostly what Jerkface said. With Joe Miller and Deman gone all they've got for their team is Pyrotechnics, Sjokz, Quickshot and Deficio. During the season to fill in the gaps that they had, they were having retired LCS players on the desk, and only have current/recent players because the players and coaches don't have games anymore until the Summer split. I'm just surprised they haven't folded the Challenger series casters into the LCS casters (Yes, I realize they're poo poo, but it'd give us some more variety rather than the hit or miss of different former players casting). Honestly, the best way to see the caster lineup changes would be to watch the April Fools games.
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Jerkface posted:I think its because EU lost all their announcers so they dont have enough people, literally, to analyze on the desk. NA has too many color commentators. Kobe, Jatt, Phreak, Zirene can all do color. Its also probably because NA coaches don't speak any english. On the Summoning Insight with Dentist they talked about Roccat and their coaching; apparantly thei former coach tried real hard with providing videos and content for them to watch but when the team didn't really listen to it he got demotivated. Unless they manage a drastic u-turn in the team atmosphere I don't think having Yamato will help them listen, but who knows. Maybe the threat of relegation will make them get their poo poo together. Either way they need to drop Overpow and they cant do it until after the tourney. vvvvvv No, he was just the coach, not the manager. He was also on Dragonborns as a player/coach. PlaceholderPigeon fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Apr 16, 2015 |
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Isn't Yamato whatsisname the same MYM guy that threatened Kori's mom or something? Roccat didn't seriously just hire that guy, right?
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You talk about bringing coaches onto the desk as a necessity, but honestly, I think it's a good way to get people invested in the teams. Most people cheering for H2K (at least in this thread) like them because they're "Team Pr0lly", and lord knows I wouldn't give half a gently caress about CW if it wasn't for Dentist.
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babydonthurtme posted:Isn't Yamato whatsisname the same MYM guy that threatened Kori's mom or something? Roccat didn't seriously just hire that guy, right? No, YamotoCannon was just the coach, not even a manager. The manager that threatened to have Kori's mum lose her house was Sebastian “Falli” Rotterdam.
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You know, in both the VoD review and the Countdown review, monte seems to have missed the fact that in that game three C9 vs TL, Liquid basically wasn't expecting that hai would take the Corki. It seems fairly obvious when I watch it that giant pause before last pick where Liquid is trying to figure out what to do, but Monte just acts like Liquid decided to take Scion up top... just cause.
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Calax posted:You know, in both the VoD review and the Countdown review, monte seems to have missed the fact that in that game three C9 vs TL, Liquid basically wasn't expecting that hai would take the Corki. It seems fairly obvious when I watch it that giant pause before last pick where Liquid is trying to figure out what to do, but Monte just acts like Liquid decided to take Scion up top... just cause. He misses a few things in the SK vs UOL games as well. Zed respawns and takes blue buff(takes a few seconds) and Monte is raging at him for getting blue instead of pushing. Although to be fair, Fox did gently caress around a lot in general.
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The zed one I can understand, because there were other things on the screen that were out of his control (where the screen was pointed), but the problem I have with this one is that it was missed simply because he decided to flat out skip over Picks and Bans from the start straight to when everyone was locked in and traded to their roles. I realize that it's to safe time for him, but if you're gonna critique somebody about something like P/B, at least watch the entire phase instead of just saying "well, these are our lineups!" Honestly even if he did acknowledge it, I wouldn't exactly put it as a deliberate take away by C9 (they played corki in game 1). It seemed more like an accident on their part, one that TL didn't have any response for. Which is odd given he still had a decent champion pool available for him during the split, including Ezreal. Not gonna lie, AP Ezreal seems like it'd be a perfectly fine replacement for an AP corki in that midlane and build. Edit: also the guy Alex Ich is replacing, TDK's Kyle, is now going back to Korea to retire, so I guess Alex is here to stay for TDK. Calax fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Apr 16, 2015 |
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Calax posted:The zed one I can understand, because there were other things on the screen that were out of his control (where the screen was pointed), but the problem I have with this one is that it was missed simply because he decided to flat out skip over Picks and Bans from the start straight to when everyone was locked in and traded to their roles. Not a snowball's chance in hell. What makes AP Corki great is that he has A) Waveclear. B) Reliable ultra long range AP poking. C) *seven ultimate charges for Luden's*. Ezreal doesn't have A without ultimate, doesn't have B until a lichbane, and straight up doesn't have C either.
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Hybrid Corki has like 10 times the pushing power and wave clear that AP Ezreal does.
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Isn't the point of having that AP threat in the midlane not to waveclear and split push, but rather to provide a second damage threat in a protect the ADC comp so that IF your ADC gets outright murdered in this sort of game, you've got a backup that got ahead simply because there was nothing keeping him down? In his spring split, as a midlaner, Fenix played Ahri, liss, Zed, Xerath, Ezreal, and Cass (that weren't picked or banned from him this game) and his champion pool is probably a bit deeper than that. Heck, Fenix could probably drag out Riven or Ryze from his pool to provide a credible threat to the enemy team. I just don't understand the spasm Sion (Which Quas hadn't even played in the spring split...)
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Calax posted:Isn't the point of having that AP threat in the midlane not to waveclear and split push, but rather to provide a second damage threat in a protect the ADC comp so that IF your ADC gets outright murdered in this sort of game, you've got a backup that got ahead simply because there was nothing keeping him down? It's about having a second threat preferably one that has pressure early so the enemy can't just use all resources to keep a kogmaw down.
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Calax posted:Edit: also the guy Alex Ich is replacing, TDK's Kyle, is now going back to Korea to retire, so I guess Alex is here to stay for TDK. Hm. I hope Alex does a solid and brings Yuno up with him.
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The LCK playoffs system kinda sucks. CJ v Jin Air, winner plays SKT, winner of that plays GET. Why not just have regular seeded semifinals? 
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Allyn posted:The LCK playoffs system kinda sucks. CJ v Jin Air, winner plays SKT, winner of that plays GET. Why not just have regular seeded semifinals? Gauntlet makes sense here because they played double round robin best of three series during the regular season. You need to adequately reward the teams after they play so many games. They also only have 8 teams and decided to do half playoffs. If you opened it up more to get a normal bracket itd really devalue the regular season.
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I don't think Alex will stay in tdk at all, he has apparently turned down offers from actual LCS teams already because misfits want to qualify together as a team. Which is cool cause I like them
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Firebert posted:Hybrid Corki has like 10 times the pushing power and wave clear that AP Ezreal does. I think this is accurate, at least in the mid game. Lovechop posted:I don't think Alex will stay in tdk at all, he has apparently turned down offers from actual LCS teams already because misfits want to qualify together as a team. Which is cool cause I like them Yeah honestly that team seems way better than TDK, if I were him I would stay there and qualify in the summer.
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YamatoCannon has the prestige of being one of the worst top laners in LCS history (he was bad), along with recently coaching a similarly horrible team to a last place finish. The latter can be explained away due to MYM's gamut of dysfunctions, but it's hardly a badge of honor. Now, at 19 years old, he's ready to coach a team alleged to be underperforming largely due to interpersonal difficulties and uncoachability. I guess people like how he looked in a suit, but he's a goddamn child and is not going to do a good job. Sorry 
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In fairness to him, it's not like a coach who doesn't have to learn on the job is going to join those lovely orgs, and those lovely orgs are probably the hardest to coach. I would say he has potential.
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MYM is terrible but it seemed like they improved when he took on coaching duties. Also, wasn't it MYM's manager that harassed Kori and not Yamato?
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Sexpansion posted:MYM is terrible but it seemed like they improved when he took on coaching duties. Also, wasn't it MYM's manager that harassed Kori and not Yamato? Not for the first time ITT, yes.
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Eh, Prolly has been thrown off every team he's been a part of/got relegated but he was able to handle coaching H2K who seemed like a giant mess. There's always hope!
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Jerkface posted:Gauntlet makes sense here because they played double round robin best of three series during the regular season. You need to adequately reward the teams after they play so many games. They also only have 8 teams and decided to do half playoffs. If you opened it up more to get a normal bracket itd really devalue the regular season. Although next year they're pushing the LCK to 10 teams aren't they?
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Calax posted:Although next year they're pushing the LCK to 10 teams aren't they?
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gambit just posted this on fb and it's so loving sick to look back on - alex's last game with the team: http://gambit-gaming.com/news/retrospective/alex-ichs-final-match-with-gambit 13/0/7, 100% kill participation. reminds me of dade's 1v5 TF games on samsung and poo poo. just obliterated everyone. e: also this was famously the one where forgiven went mega rage mode iirc Lovechop fucked around with this message at 17:57 on Apr 16, 2015 |
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Lovechop posted:gambit just posted this on fb and it's so loving sick to look back on - alex's last game with the team: Alex hard carried that series by farming like an animal and then wrecking everyone.
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http://www.businessinsider.com/life-of-professional-gamers-league-of-legends-2015-4 Business Insider seems perplexed, but it does give newbies a semi-good explanation of what's going on in the series.
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More gold from ESEX- this time about PawN
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SaberToothedPie posted:some rando team picked kass in lpl Doesn't work for Gamtee's Xaiohu like it did for PawN; he just got wrecked by LB after that first gank. Also LoveEatPotato is a great name.
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Lucian mid pick. Why would this be a bad pick? Seems pretty sensible but I've never seen it done.
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Jayisspecial posted:Lucian mid pick. Why would this be a bad pick? Seems pretty sensible but I've never seen it done. Gets dunked by people with sufficient range or who can point and click.
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Jayisspecial posted:Lucian mid pick. Why would this be a bad pick? Seems pretty sensible but I've never seen it done. You lane well but then you hit mid game and the enemy AP is exploding you while you can only get a few shots out if you're not someone like Ezreal, Corki, or that undead crab guy.
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Hypocrisy posted:You lane well but then you hit mid game and the enemy AP is exploding you while you can only get a few shots out if you're not someone like Ezreal, Corki, or that undead crab guy. It expanded into Corki, who had really good range and mixed damage but wasn't as safe as Ezreal. Echo was added which added a lot more to his burst and made him a good pick instead of an almost gimmick-like niche. You can build nothing but penetration damage and an Echo and if you're good at hitting missiles you can chunk someone out of a fight really well, especially if you can get close enough for a Q->E->R combo, it's usually enough to kill anyone that isn't a tank. Urgot has good range and a semi tanky kit, and was great at pushing down other tanks too. On top of that, he's got a pretty good engage that works well with a coordinated team and shows up in competitive for tank bursting/engage. Lucian is somewhere between Ezreal and Corki, where he has a dash and decent burst, but he's not as safe as Ezreal and doesn't have the burst of Corki, so he's kind of a jack of all, master of none. RealFoxy fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Apr 17, 2015 |
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Thanks for the replies. Makes sense. He does seem pretty inferior to Corki in everything he would be trying to do.
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You pick Lucian to mow down waves and explode towers. Once the laning phase is over, he's the best PvE champion among the ADCs discussed.
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Lucian mid was kinda common when he was super op, it's actually a really fun pick.. can def see it working in fast push comps still
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Lucian mid was a common counter-pick to Kassadin. A fed ADC who can constantly harass Kassadin is one of the best ways to keep him down.
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Jin air vs CJ on right now Madlife really looks back in form e: A Ziggs pick... PlaceholderPigeon fucked around with this message at 11:13 on Apr 17, 2015 |
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