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The wing effect on Cas getting his grace back was really cool juxtaposition to his first appearance.
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Apr 16, 2015 06:05
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So they have a book that can fix any kind of damnation. Like, for instance, being locked in a cage with Micheal and Lucifer? Their brother has been in there for hundreds of years local time by now, he must be crazy as hell. Still, just leaving him there and never mentioning it again seems a bit callous.
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Apr 16, 2015 07:56
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Dean was dead for about 3 months? and it was 40 something years. It's been about 4? seasons since Adam's been locked in there. At the very least it's something near 500 years. Although, Cas's speech about how the human body can only take so much damage and still house a soul might mean Adam is officially in heaven someone since he molotov'd Michael and kinda disintegrated him. Maybe Death was just loving with Dean for having the balls to call him up and demand things?
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Apr 16, 2015 08:17
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I don't want to sound like a know it all, but I think this is going to turn out badly for Sam and Dean, just a hunch.
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Apr 16, 2015 08:23
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Sam and Dean's logic never really adds up. I'm hoping this show ends up on a good note, but it's really the same bad decision over and over again with varying stakes.
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Apr 16, 2015 14:55
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Angela Christine posted:So they have a book that can fix any kind of damnation. Like, for instance, being locked in a cage with Micheal and Lucifer? They did mention him this season.
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Apr 16, 2015 14:59
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Voted Worst Mom posted:Sam and Dean's logic never really adds up. I'm hoping this show ends up on a good note, but it's really the same bad decision over and over again with varying stakes. After this I think it'd be OK to have the last episode be super grimdark, leave their survival up in the air, and the after credit stinger be a beach waitress bringing drinks to guys on the beach with names that I can't think of right now but are like the ones they always use as their FBI agent names. Side note: is FBI agent the default? I miss when they were wildlife enforcement agents, or whatever could be had at the time.
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Apr 16, 2015 15:01
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mcswizzle posted:After this I think it'd be OK to have the last episode be super grimdark, leave their survival up in the air, and the after credit stinger be a beach waitress bringing drinks to guys on the beach with names that I can't think of right now but are like the ones they always use as their FBI agent names. FBI has been the default for the whole show as far as I remember, sometimes they do something different like when they found out Garth was a werewolf.
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Apr 16, 2015 15:16
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computer parts posted:FBI has been the default for the whole show as far as I remember, sometimes they do something different like when they found out Garth was a werewolf. They used to switch it up a lot more: State Troopers, CDC, reporters, Homeland Security, and so on. But as the series aged, they started going with FBI as the go-to.
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Apr 16, 2015 15:19
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Byers2142 posted:They used to switch it up a lot more: State Troopers, CDC, reporters, Homeland Security, and so on. But as the series aged, they started going with FBI as the go-to. That's what I remember. During the early season Woman In White episode (where the house tried to eat them) didn't they do Park Ranger or something like that?
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Apr 16, 2015 15:22
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mcswizzle posted:That's what I remember. During the early season Woman In White episode (where the house tried to eat them) didn't they do Park Ranger or something like that? Park Ranger was the Wendigo, they were State Troopers in the episode you're referring to, I think.
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Apr 16, 2015 15:25
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Byers2142 posted:Park Ranger was the Wendigo, they were State Troopers in the episode you're referring to, I think. That sounds right. Anyway, I miss the days of different departments. I guess it's a little more believable that the FBI would take more notice in weird things, but I always thought it was interesting for them to have to think on their feet about who they were and why they were investigating
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Apr 16, 2015 15:36
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mcswizzle posted:That sounds right. Anyway, I miss the days of different departments. I guess it's a little more believable that the FBI would take more notice in weird things, but I always thought it was interesting for them to have to think on their feet about who they were and why they were investigating Teddy Bear Doctors... 
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Apr 16, 2015 15:38
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What's all this last episode talk? AFAIK the showrunners, actors, and network have no plans to end it anytime soon. Though I have to admit, they do seem to have been spinning their wheels for awhile now. I'm not sure what the answer is. I was glad it continued on after the Lucifer story even though that was a good, natural end. There have been a lot of great stories in the past few seasons. But as they raised the stakes ever higher it has been almost impossible to eke out an interesting story without spinning their wheels. The world of Heaven and Hell has really put the show into a corner. A few years ago, you could say the show was about the supernatural-ghosts, vampires, demons, werewolves, etc. Now looking back, you have to admit it's primarily been a show about angels and demons, God, Heaven, and Hell. And once you've rounded the gamut of stories about the Apocalypse, warring for Heaven, warring for Hell, etc you kind of run out of stakes to raise. We've now concluded that the world won't end. Lucifer and God are gone. Heaven has become peaceful and well run, if a bit jerky. Hell has become cuddly and nerfed to the point that it's almost an ally. When was the last time a demon possession was truly evil and gruesome like it was in the first couple of seasons? "Oh hai, black eyes and some smoke, have an angel blade to the back."  Purgatory and it's monsters have become a non-player. We've gone through a half a dozen iterations of "Sam is good, Dean is bad." "Dean is good, Sam is bad." Dean sacrifices himself for Sam. Sam sacrifices himself for Dean. The brothers are fighting and will NEVER TRUST EACH OTHER AGAIN. Oh now they're cool. Castiel loses his powers, becomes bad, becomes good, becomes human, becomes an angel again--his stories have all been done at least twice.Death has also become pointless, as with a simple spell and some blood on the wall you can create a magic door to Heaven, Purgatory or Hell and everyone is literally there. Sometimes it's "really hard" to get there or get back, but essentially there's no legitmate reason why Bobby or Kevin or John or anyone can't come back. The only beings in existence I can think of that are pretty much inaccessable are Lucifer, Michael, Adam, and God. In theory those who the angel blades one shot are supposed to be destroyed forever but I'm sure they could tech the tech their way out of that if the story dictated. Essentially in this show, nobody is really dead. So if death is so minor, what are the stakes anymore? I don't know how they can do it, but if they can't find some way to reset things it's gonna get boring after the Mark storyline ends. I can't see how they can threaten the world or even just Sam and Dean without it being a repeat of the past. The only possible thing I can think of is have God come back and push a big reset button. Remove all the angels and demons and heaven and hell and break most of the simple rules down that make things so easy (30 second exorcisms, hexes, spells, angel one shot blades) and put them back on the road with some sort of quest like they had in the first couple of seasons interspersed with MOTW episodes. But I'm not even sure that will work. Astroman fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Apr 16, 2015 |
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Apr 16, 2015 15:45
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Well, wherever that thing is going to be, you can be sure that dick Metatron is going to be the one to do it. He's got that Demon tablet for a reason guys.
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Apr 16, 2015 15:54
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Everything about this show is good except all the things Sam and Dean do.
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Apr 16, 2015 16:03
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Astroman posted:What's all this last episode talk? AFAIK the showrunners, actors, and network have no plans to end it anytime soon. I was just pontificating on the eventual end of the series. I know that Padaleki and Ackles have committed to doing this until they literally die.
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Apr 16, 2015 16:55
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Sam you stupid, stupid, stupid man. And apparent a good Charlie episode involves her getting shot right away and not really doing anything. Glad to see Metatron on the loose though.
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Apr 16, 2015 17:24
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...I have to say, this may be the stupidest decision ANYONE on this show has made so far.
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Apr 17, 2015 00:57
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legoman727 posted:...I have to say, this may be the stupidest decision ANYONE on this show has made so far. I missed the episode. What did he do?
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Apr 17, 2015 01:20
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Writer Cath posted:I missed the episode. What did he do? Made a deal with Rowena to save Dean from The Mark. Sam finally living up to his Moose nickname.
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Apr 17, 2015 01:43
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legoman727 posted:...I have to say, this may be the stupidest decision ANYONE on this show has made so far. Hmm, it's no more stupid than drinking demon's blood to combat Lucifer, summoning the king of hell or death or a random crossroads demon, willingly going into purgatory, or hell, or heaven to gently caress over its residents, casting angels from heaven, randomly killing some monster kids non-violent mother, etc. I actually feel all of the things they've done are equally stupid which is why this is kind of old at this point.
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Apr 17, 2015 04:13
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Speaking of drinking demon blood, has it ever been shown what happens if a vampire drinks a demon? Just curious.
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Apr 17, 2015 05:38
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Dean was dead for about 3 months? and it was 40 something years. Almost 5 seasons, and you're forgetting the 2 year-long timeskips we've had. It's getting on for a millennium of torture.
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Apr 17, 2015 06:24
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It really annoyed me that they just stayed in the place where they met up with Charlie. Put the book in the box so the bad guys can't track it any more, and take it to the bunker where you can look at it in a room that's protected from... everything. I know there'd be no episode if they did that, but why didn't they do that?
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Apr 17, 2015 11:20
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e: nevermind, posted with a couple minutes still to go in the episode. I don't really see what's wrong with asking Rowena for help. She's just a witch. It's not like he made a demon deal for his soul that can't be taken back. yeah I eat ass fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Apr 17, 2015 |
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Apr 17, 2015 17:02
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Why do I get the feeling that the Rowena deal may end up destroying the honeycomb hideout? I mean, her ultimate goal is to go after what's left of the men of letters for 'witch' reasons.
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Apr 17, 2015 17:19
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Murphy Brownback posted:e: nevermind, posted with a couple minutes still to go in the episode. Yet
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Apr 18, 2015 03:12
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BreakAtmo posted:Almost 5 seasons, and you're forgetting the 2 year-long timeskips we've had. It's getting on for a millennium of torture. You'd think maybe after awhile Lucifer and MIchael would just get bored with toying with Adam. It'd be hilarious if they got broken out and were all chill buds and couldn't care less about Heaven, Hell, or Earth.
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Apr 18, 2015 04:19
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Astroman posted:You'd think maybe after awhile Lucifer and MIchael would just get bored with toying with Adam. Yeah, but what else is there to do? No wifi or cable TV in the cage.
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Apr 18, 2015 04:21
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Astroman posted:You'd think maybe after awhile Lucifer and MIchael would just get bored with toying with Adam. But all three are now pissed at the winchesters
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Apr 18, 2015 16:49
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Astroman posted:You'd think maybe after awhile Lucifer and MIchael would just get bored with toying with Adam. I thought Michael protected Adam. Sam though, was fair game.
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Apr 18, 2015 17:04
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Yea I figured Adam was fine as he played the part he was asked. It was Sam and Dean screwing everything up that got Sam tortured.
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Apr 18, 2015 17:39
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Shroomie posted:Plus, you know, you can order fries without salt on them. Having just kind of watched through to the current point after catching up on Netflix, salt used to impact them and then they seemed to have forgotten about that. I mostly remember because they use salt in that Assault on Precinct 13 episode specifically to keep demons out. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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Apr 19, 2015 01:07
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I think there's a rule of sorts for symbolism. Salt's basically supposed to mean purity, hence when it's in a line it won't be able to be crossed and it's used for protection. Nothin spooky can get over it. I remember an episode where they used salt to torture Alistair, but I think that was more like "Hey, torture the guy" and less "evict the demon" kinda stuff. I don't think salt as a rule is demon anathema, but in a line, yea it's gonna be able to block spooky stuff.
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Apr 19, 2015 01:24
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I think there's a rule of sorts for symbolism. The purity of the salt is negated by the trans fats in the fries. 
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Apr 19, 2015 14:11
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Chuck and the Gabester tell their opinion on the season's eventsquote:Chuck would “recommend a lot of Vitamin C” and also tell the Winchesters, “This is why you don’t leave the house.” Man. I really, really wish they are brought back
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Apr 19, 2015 18:30
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The Book of the Damned annoys the crap out of me. Charlie searched the world for this thing, unearthing it in a monastery in Spain ... or alternately, you can download it to your loving Kindle for free. I'd give them a pass on the title, except the first time it appeared on the show they were so loving lazy they use what I think was the Library of Congress page for Fort's book. It was definitely for Fort, whatever it was.
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It was just an episode to riff on Evil Dead, even having them in a cabin in the woods.
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