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raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.



I guess you can eulogize it as a sideshow rest home, but as someone who used to live near Silver Spring, that place loving sucked as anything else, man.

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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I just watched half the Piratz episode on my break and oh my God.

I don't even think a pirate bar is a bad theme, but maybe not in a business community off the Beltway and 30 miles from the ocean. I think the problem is the execution. I haven't seen the staff at their worst yet, but...the amount of decoration a place has is inversely proportional to how often it gets dusted. Every bar or tearoom I've ever been in that covers every possible surface with knicknacks relies on low lighting to hide the fact that everything is coated in dust. When I went to the Pirates' House in Savannah, they had a few pirate decorations, a ship in a bottle, some nautical maps, and things like that. It wasn't festooned from floor to ceiling with every bit of tacky Halloween pirate crap they could find.

kolby
Oct 29, 2004

CrowsNestMutineer posted:

We'll carry on, as we pirates do

I'm against bullying and stuff but there's something about you that makes me want to smash your face with a hammer.

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

CrowsNestMutineer posted:

We'll carry on, as we pirates do,

You're not a loving pirate.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

If it was a brand new bar I think the pirate theme could have worked, if you had real pirate themed drinks and food or something, but they ruined all their community goodwill so they had to pick something that wasn't pirate or nautical, because the people who would be there would just go "Oh yeah that pirate bar changed a little, I still don't want to go there"

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010

bobjr posted:

If it was a brand new bar I think the pirate theme could have worked, if you had real pirate themed drinks and food or something, but they ruined all their community goodwill so they had to pick something that wasn't pirate or nautical, because the people who would be there would just go "Oh yeah that pirate bar changed a little, I still don't want to go there"

They should just replace it with an apple bees.

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Holyshoot posted:

They should just replace it with an apple bees.

That's a bingo!

And honestly there's a bunch of pirate themed bars out there that manage to stick around. Forgot about Gasper's Grotto in Tampa (or Ybor....can't remember). My parents love that place because it's divey and has cheap drinks and we always go there when I visit. I guess what I'm getting at is the pirate theme probably wasnt the kiss of death and maybe it was everything else.

Solice Kirsk fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Apr 9, 2015

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
It's not a realistic pirate bar without things like scurvy, pieces of eight, and a quartermaster.

Did Piratz even have a quartermaster? No. Some "authentic" pirate experience. Pffft. It didn't even have real skeletons or a haunted treasure.

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Holyshoot posted:

They should just replace it with an apple bees.
Most big chain restaurants actually have really high standards for bar service and operations so this would be a huge improvement.

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010

Hazo posted:

Most big chain restaurants actually have really high standards for bar service and operations so this would be a huge improvement.

Except for some reason they are evil and ruining America :shrug:

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Well I finished watching the Piratz episode, and what surprised me is that most of the staff don't seem terrible. In fact, it seemed like they enjoyed working in a thriving bar more than they enjoyed playing dress-up in a failing bar. It was the owner who was like "This isn't my dream!" probably because her husband was an incompetent jerk.

Still, the corporate theme was monstrously bad. The decor was extremely generic. "Smartbar?" Paying a machine so you can pour your own beer? I know that's bullshit and I'm not exactly the kind of touchy-feely patron who wants to chat with the staff for loving ever. Don't get me started on the hipster ice. I guess they assume everyone who is "corporate" is a rich sucker who will pay a lot of money for a gimmick. Idunno, he's been doing this for a long time; maybe he's right.

evobatman
Jul 30, 2006

it means nothing, but says everything!
Pillbug
Reminder that Piratz was $900,000 in debt.

Nine
Hundred
Thousand
Dollars

You're invested in the bar? Are you $900,000 of other peoples money invested? Is it worth $900,000 to play pirate dressup? $900 is understandable. $9,000 is crazy, but manageable if you have disposable income and you get a lot of socialization, fun and value for yourself or your group out of it. When it is more important to you to play pirates than it is to fix your life and repay $900,000 you are clinically insane.

$900,000

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

He even brought up her child and how her future is more important than a bad bar with a million dollars in debt, and that hardly even affected her.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Shows like this have made me hate the word "dream." It's a word that's constantly used to blur the line between "living a fulfilling lifestyle" and "living a fantasy." I heard it all the time from people on Kitchen Nightmares who sunk their life savings into a restaurant because they thought buying a restaurant means you're buying a magic money factory full of free food and booze.

Tales like this are always really sad when there's a family involved. Did her daughter think it was awesome that Mom ran a failing pirate-themed bar? How about now? Reminds me of that story from the wife of a video game programmer whose kids were depressed and cutting themselves because of Dad's "dream."

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

OmegaBR posted:

Another Piratz episode?

At first you say no chance in hell, then you remember this is a TV show and Piratz is their most notorious episode. Of course they're going back.

Frankly, Piratz was a failure on the part of both parties. For obvious reasons by the crew, but Taffer really didn't make a strong enough effort to adhere to their strengths. He literally called the place "Corporate" and made them everything they were against. And this special where he pretends he doesn't know they turned right back, just makes him look bad.

I've said it before, but a more slick nautical theme, like a cruise ship (not literally, but the general motif,) probably would have been better for both the staff and the local customers (what worker wants to leave their job and then go to a bar with an office theme?)

Theme it after Somalia pirates

CrowsNestMutineer posted:

I hope that someday you find a bar worth becoming that invested in.

Better to have a life, lest you end up like that crazy gently caress in Vegas that offed himself because his hangout buffet banned him

SocketWrench fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Apr 13, 2015

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Yeah, if you find yourself building your life and identity around a bar, then you are either an alcoholic or something worse than an alcoholic.

CVagts
Oct 19, 2009
I dig the high-rise concept they put in the bar tonight. The customization with what to have in the "windows" is a neat touch.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

raditts posted:

Yeah, if you find yourself building your life and identity around a bar, then you are either an alcoholic or something worse than an alcoholic.
Even Charles Bukowski didn't dedicate himself to a particular bar.

D.N. Nation
Feb 1, 2012

bobjr posted:

He even brought up her child and how her future is more important than a bad bar with a million dollars in debt, and that hardly even affected her.

Also she seems to have a grandmother-grandchild relationship with, uh, her own husband, which is kinda weird

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
I'm not a great cook, and am often guilty of not tasting dishes, sometimes even when I'm trying new variations. But smothering meat in sauce, actually calling that a dish and putting it on the menu, and never having tasted it...drat.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse
I still wanna know how you go in a million loving dollar debt. I mean jesus, how the gently caress could you get anything with your credit so hosed.
Better yet how you can go that far in debt and decide your main means of income would be better served as your personal hangout that earns you nothing.

DStecks
Feb 6, 2012

SocketWrench posted:

I still wanna know how you go in a million loving dollar debt. I mean jesus, how the gently caress could you get anything with your credit so hosed.
Better yet how you can go that far in debt and decide your main means of income would be better served as your personal hangout that earns you nothing.

The real question is who sees a bar-owner 800 grand in the hole and says "I will loan this person 100 thousand dollars, this seems like a good plan."

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010

DStecks posted:

The real question is who sees a bar-owner 800 grand in the hole and says "I will loan this person 100 thousand dollars, this seems like a good plan."

Why do women go back to husbands who beat them? Because emotions overrule logic.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

I'm more surprised that the bar lasted that long after the show than anything else.

Power of Pecota
Aug 4, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Halloween Jack posted:

Shows like this have made me hate the word "dream." It's a word that's constantly used to blur the line between "living a fulfilling lifestyle" and "living a fantasy." I heard it all the time from people on Kitchen Nightmares who sunk their life savings into a restaurant because they thought buying a restaurant means you're buying a magic money factory full of free food and booze.

Tales like this are always really sad when there's a family involved. Did her daughter think it was awesome that Mom ran a failing pirate-themed bar? How about now? Reminds me of that story from the wife of a video game programmer whose kids were depressed and cutting themselves because of Dad's "dream."

I'm really hoping the Underground Wonder Bar/Clear Bar is actually working out now, because Taffer got way too giddy about telling the owner her dream was dumb and a money sink and she'd have to give up on it. It was totally true, but just done in an overly mean way.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Power of Pecota posted:

I'm really hoping the Underground Wonder Bar/Clear Bar is actually working out now, because Taffer got way too giddy about telling the owner her dream was dumb and a money sink and she'd have to give up on it. It was totally true, but just done in an overly mean way.

She deserved it though really, she spent more time acting like a loving five year old and coloring on placemats than trying to take care of her failing business.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

DStecks posted:

The real question is who sees a bar-owner 800 grand in the hole and says "I will loan this person 100 thousand dollars, this seems like a good plan."

Because in this case it's a TV show that earns through marketing and commercials. As long as it's a good show they'll make up that 100k and then some.

Holyshoot
May 6, 2010

SocketWrench posted:

Because in this case it's a TV show that earns through marketing and commercials. As long as it's a good show they'll make up that 100k and then some.

I believe they are talking about banks and normal people. Unless there was en episode where someone from the show lent someone 100k. Usually the poo poo they give these people is never paid back.

banned from Starbucks
Jul 18, 2004




Is that Hungry Investors show still a thing? What about the one where Adam Carolla and Tapout shirt guy yell at people?

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.

zVxTeflon posted:

Is that Hungry Investors show still a thing? What about the one where Adam Carolla and Tapout shirt guy yell at people?

I see scrolls for the contractor show now and again, so it's likely still alive. Can't say the same for Hungry Investors, wouldn't be surprised if it got canned.

NOTinuyasha
Oct 17, 2006

 
The Great Twist
I was out visiting my parents and saw this :(





Then I noticed the row of condemned buildings adjacent to it. Apparently the laundromat next door caught fire and took a bunch of buildings with it including P's & Q's. Sucks to be them. Seemed to be a few people inside doing something so maybe it'll reopen (though if I were them I'd take the insurance money and run).

I don't watch Bar Rescue anymore because it got way too dumb but I did watch S04E01 when I heard they were redoing The Artful Dodger. I used to be a manager at an ice cream shop around the block and it brought back fond memories of that particular epicenter of insanity in town.

NOTinuyasha fucked around with this message at 06:15 on Apr 30, 2015

bunky
Aug 29, 2004

zVxTeflon posted:

Is that Hungry Investors show still a thing? What about the one where Adam Carolla and Tapout shirt guy yell at people?

They're being sued by a contractor for false imprisonment and defamation. I expected it to come back with Bar Rescue, but maybe the suit is delaying the next season.
http://consumerist.com/2015/03/23/contractor-sues-spike-tvs-catch-a-contractor-for-false-imprisonment-defamation/

Mob
May 7, 2002

Me reading your posts

I ended up watching this show all day yesterday and they were running a ticker looking for people for that scummy contractor show multiple times per episode. Also I can't walk into a room now without yelling TROW DIS ICE AWAY SHUT IT DOWN SHUT IT ALL DOWN so my life is exponentially greater than it once was.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
How many time did you see that commercial about the cop with the bad tattoo? Seems like Spike runs that one on a loop.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
I gotta say, the episode with the 4 sisters in San Francisco was a nice one. They weren't shits, so Jon could be nice to them all along the way.

bigE
Nov 26, 2004

Oh, ye of little faith.
I hope I wasn't the only one to see the new episode, where Taffer talks an uncomfortable (or hilarious) amount about the first ever Triple Butt Funnel.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


He gets way too excited over his butt funnels. Especially since it still sounds like a total poo poo thing to be proud of.

Inkspot
Dec 3, 2013

I believe I have
an appointment.
Mr. Goongala?
Someday, there will be a fourth butt funnel. The excited pointing will never end.

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
Just grab people as they come in the door and duct tape them together. It's like a permanent mobile butt funnel.

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smg77
Apr 27, 2007

bigE posted:

I hope I wasn't the only one to see the new episode, where Taffer talks an uncomfortable (or hilarious) amount about the first ever Triple Butt Funnel.

That wasn't nearly as uncomfortable as John and the mixologist guy sitting in the front of a van watching porn on an ipad.

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