Atoramos posted:

Out of curiosity, are there any good numbers on what % of Americans consider themselves Democrats vs Republicans in TYOOL 2015?

Amergin posted:

44/42 R/D with "leaners"/pushing independents to one or the other, as of March 2015.

Radish posted:

I really can't understand this logic at all. I mean I can get that they like ultra right wing Bibi over Obama, that makes sense. However the idea that Israel should be a priority over their own country is crazy to me, especially from people that roll themselves up in the Ultra Patriot persona.

Amergin posted:

27/44/28 split R/I/D, 44/42 R/D with "leaners"/pushing independents to one or the other, as of March 2015.

My Imaginary GF posted:

The idea is that you cannot betray Israel's interests for political expediency in America. What is the line that separates national interest from political expediency? Is it better to take a bad deal than bomb in response to no deal? Is bombing political expediency, or is it the national interest?

Amergin posted:

Or the idea is that Bibi is a conservative and Obama is a liberal. Hell if conservatives could name him, they'd probably prefer the UK PM over Obama.

My Imaginary GF posted:

The idea is that you cannot betray Israel's interests for political expediency in America.

zoux posted:

Don't tell them about Tony Abbot being a Liberal

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Just when I thought I couldn't possibly despise Randy any more than I already do.

DaveWoo posted:

Every major Republican presidential candidate came out in support of Indiana's RFRA law, which would have allowed businesses to discriminate against gay customers.

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You start out in 1980 by saying, "human being, human being, human being." By 1994 you can't say "human being" — that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like religious freedom law, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about DADT, and all these things you're talking about are totally freedom and morality things and a byproduct of them is [that] gays get hurt worse than heteros. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it. I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that if it is getting that abstract, and that coded, that we are doing away with the homosexual problem one way or the other. You follow me — because obviously sitting around saying, "We want to promote religious freedom," is much more abstract than even the gays in the military thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "human being, human being."

Amergin posted:

Or the idea is that Bibi is a conservative and Obama is a liberal. Hell if conservatives could name him, they'd probably prefer the UK PM over Obama.

A Winner is Jew posted:

SaltLick posted:

http://fox17online.com/2015/04/15/grandville-business-owner-says-bring-in-guns-but-gays-stay-away/

quick set up the indiegogo!

RevKrule posted:

How does he tell who's gay? Is it a don't ask don't tell situation or does he have some kind of working gaydar in the back room he checks every time someone comes in?

SaltLick posted:

http://fox17online.com/2015/04/15/grandville-business-owner-says-bring-in-guns-but-gays-stay-away/

quick set up the indiegogo!

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We, as a team, work hard for whats ours. We are not protected by unions or contracts. We absolutely MUST provide our customers with a service level that would make them come back or tell their friends about us. We don’t have a “right”, and we are not “entitled” to our pay. We must EARN it.

SaltLick posted:

http://fox17online.com/2015/04/15/grandville-business-owner-says-bring-in-guns-but-gays-stay-away/

quick set up the indiegogo!

RevKrule posted:

How does he tell who's gay? Is it a don't ask don't tell situation or does he have some kind of working gaydar in the back room he checks every time someone comes in?

CommieGIR posted:

Seriously, this moron has probably served multiple gay customers.

Your a mechanic, not a loving priest. You know this is all about the exposure and money in the end. Hypocrite.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

44% of Americans too indecisive to just make up their goddamn minds already!

Raskolnikov38 posted:

44% of Americans too indecisive to just make up their goddamn minds already!

Raskolnikov38 posted:

44% of Americans too indecisive to just make up their goddamn minds already!

hangedman1984 posted:

Most of that 44% vote straight one party, they are just teabaggers not wanting to be lumped in with those "rinos" or leftists who think that the dems are the lesser of two evils.

hangedman1984 posted:

Most of that 44% vote straight one party, they are just teabaggers not wanting to be lumped in with those "rinos" or leftists who think that the dems are the lesser of two evils.

Amergin posted:

If you looked at the numbers it's actually about half R-leaning, half D-leaning.

hangedman1984 posted:

Most of that 44% vote straight one party, they are just teabaggers not wanting to be lumped in with those "rinos" or leftists who think that the dems are the lesser of two evils.

A Winner is Jew posted:

He can probably still out run him.

Venom Snake posted:

Democrats are cool, yall.

Samurai Sanders posted:

The mail my parents always got as registered Democrats made me think they had registered their undying love for the Party, and I sure as poo poo am not willing to do anything like that.

zoux posted:

Oh Lord no.

Venom Snake posted:

I hope FDR's ghost kills you.

A Winner is Jew posted:

He can probably still out run him.

amanasleep posted:

WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:

Abolish the office of Vice President and appoint Joe Biden Maester of the Realm, a new office held for life.


Make it happen, goons.

A Winner is Jew posted:

He can probably still out run him.

Gravel Gravy posted:

That's not very fair. The only true option is a game of Marco Polio.

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Fast Food Workers: You Don’t Deserve $15 an Hour to Flip Burgers, and That’s OK

I’ve gotten a much bigger response out of this than I expected. It turns out many people are just as sick of the self-entitled attitude permeating through our culture. It also turns out quite a lot of people, on the other side of this issue, actually believe 15 bucks an hour for entry level fast food work is a reasonable plan. Pretty disturbing, actually.

From those (delusional) folks, I’ve heard a few primary counter arguments. I’d like to go through some of them here:

1) “If we give all of the teenagers at Wendy’s and Burger King 29 thousand dollar salaries, they’ll spend it and rejuvenate the economy!”

Yes, I agree they’ll probably spend it, and that’s part of the hazard. When you work your way up the ladder and achieve a higher salary, you hopefully develop, along the way, the discipline required to both attain and maintain it. It’s funny that people mention reckless spending as, somehow, a BENEFIT of handing ridiculous salaries to fast food workers. It might be true that our economy depends on people spending foolishly, but that is a dynamic we should be trying to break, not reinforce. In any case, there’s also the unfortunate reality that, if you give millions of people an enormous collective raise overnight, living expenses across the country will also see an enormous collective raise overnight. One hypothetical example: a landlord in a low income part of Baltimore County rents to primarily low wage workers in the service industry. He charges what he can to turn a profit, but not much more because he doesn’t want to price himself out of the market. Then one day he turns on the TV and sees “all low wage workers just got an almost 100 percent pay increase!”

Guess what he does?

It’s called economics, people. Look it up.

2) “If we don’t give them 15 an hour, we’ll just have to subsidize them with welfare.”

False choice, false premise, false dichotomy, false everything. Yes, it might be true that our welfare system is out of control, so much so that even a perfectly able bodied, fully employed single young person can eat out of the government subsidies trough. But, again, the answer is to get the Nanny State under control, not to use it as a means to hold the rest of us hostage.
Talk about entitlement. Is there any greater example of an entitled attitude than someone saying: “I demand you either give me a raise or subsidize my lifestyle with tax money!” The answer is to break people of that dependence, not transfer it from one place to the next.

3) “But… But… CEOs…”

Stop it. Stop it. Just stop it. Yes, CEOs are often wealthy. Yes, sometimes they’re incompetent and selfish and greedy. Yes, they should, morally speaking, share their wealth through charity and other endeavors. Yes, all of these things are true, but it doesn’t make your menial job any less menial. And when I say menial, I mean that, as a fast food entry level worker, you are doing a job that literally any human above the age of reason can do.

Not insulting you, just giving it to you straight.

So whether the CEO is a greedy scumbag or not, that doesn’t change the reality that your job just isn’t that valuable, monetarily speaking. It’s good that you confront this, as I did when I worked those jobs, because it might compel you to go do something more worthwhile and lucrative.

As far as the CEOs go, some might be bad, but plenty are in that position because they’re very, very, very good at what they do. Drop the childish, simplistic, Robin Hood bull crap. The fact is, running a huge multi-million dollar company isn’t easy. You probably couldn’t do it. If you could, you would, I guarantee it. So they make more than you because their job is about a million times more stressful and more important and more complicated and more consequential. They have thousands of people, including you, relying on them.

They should get paid pretty well. And besides, envy won’t get you anywhere, friends.

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It turns out many people are just as sick of the self-entitled attitude permeating through our culture.

a shameful boehner posted:

In which Matt Walsh says "BOOTSTRAPS! BOOTSTRAPS!!!"_{why yes I am a white man why do you ask}:


He's somehow equally as offensive as Rush with a tiny percentage of the following and everything he writes just makes me want to

a shameful boehner posted:

In which Matt Walsh says "BOOTSTRAPS! BOOTSTRAPS!!!"_{why yes I am a white man why do you ask}:


He's somehow equally as offensive as Rush with a tiny percentage of the following and everything he writes just makes me want to