|
The Eldar codex is $90 AUD. For a book. Then it's $75 for 3 new jetbikes. Then $28 for an Autarch. Then $56 for one jetbike character. That's ~$240 or so for 5 minis and a book, and I'm still short a book to actually play the game. Last fortnight I spent $280 AUD on this  83 minis, most of them hard plastic sprues, terrain, all in one rule book, cards, tokens, dice, enough figures to make a full force 3 times over each, for two different armies. See those jetbikes? $10 a pair to add on. They even have heavy weapon options. Those characters? $12 each to add on more. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Apr 16, 2015 |
#
?
Apr 16, 2015 23:30
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 11, 2024 05:56 |
|
|
Sure $143 US will buy you all the rules you need to play at least basic games and also a good chunk of models for any other games, but they're not the finest toy soldiers in the world. I mean, you wouldn't be collecting small, jewel-like objects of magic and wonder and playing the best ruleset for tactical wargamings involving miniatures ever made. (This latter opinion is one I see expressed from time to time and it's truly astounding).
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2015 23:33
|
|
|
the detail on gw minis is the best though and 40k fiction is also the best
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2015 23:35
|
|
|
I've always felt like Murderfang was something you'd see in a mid-90's action figure commercial. Narrator: "MURDERFANG IS FUELED BY MURDERLUST AND DESTROYS HIS ENEMIES WITH HIS MURDERCLAWS!" Kid 1: "Awesome!" *sick guitar riff* Narrator: "FOUND WANDERING THE HELLWORD OF OMNICIDE, MURDERFANG HAS RETURNED!" Kid 2: "Sick, dude!" Narrator: "MURDERFANG! Each sold separately. Batteries not included. Some assembly required" *sick guitar riff* Narrator: "MURDERFANG! Available exclusively at Toys 'R' Us"
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2015 23:39
|
|
|
They are so original! Did you know that Blizzard ripped them off for Starcraft? What? Heinlein? Herbert? Never heard of them!
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2015 23:40
|
|
|
Moola posted:the detail on gw minis is the best though and 40k fiction is also the best A skull is intended to the skull deity. These minis require more skulls.
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2015 23:40
|
|
|
FrostyPox posted:I've always felt like Murderfang was something you'd see in a mid-90's action figure commercial. Lmao
|
|
#
?
Apr 16, 2015 23:53
|
|
|
This image pretty much sums up the bad thread:
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 00:58
|
|
|
FrostyPox posted:I've always felt like Murderfang was something you'd see in a mid-90's action figure commercial. This has forever been GW's marketing strategy.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 01:02
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 01:11
|
|
|
Night10194 posted:This has forever been GW's marketing strategy. I sometimes picture GW's love of random tables being how they end up making all their business decisions. "We need to sit down and hammer out which new units we'll produce models for this year. Tim get me 8d6 and charts 65a through 88g. Oh and have Matt try and to roll boxcars so we can finally let the website recognize what country people are from."
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 02:17
|
|
|
thiswayliesmadness posted:I sometimes picture GW's love of random tables being how they end up making all their business decisions. Roll 2d6 to determine number of years between jetbike preview and actual release, next roll d3 to determine time until next Codex redo for Eldar or 3d6 for Dark Eldar.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 02:37
|
|
|
Ironically, 8e will have less randomness, given the '£10=+1, per roll' rule.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 03:25
|
|
|
FagtasticalMondays posted:This image pretty much sums up the bad thread:
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 13:37
|
|
|
FrostyPox posted:I've always felt like Murderfang was something you'd see in a mid-90's action figure commercial. I feel like you could add any of these blood angels weapons into your faux-advert and they'd fit right in: BLOODSTRIKE MISSILES BLOODFIST BLOOD TALONS
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 15:10
|
|
|
Moola posted:cant tell which is worse anymore Both are full of hard Ms/people who drank way too much of the koolaid, but it's much harder to decide which fanbase is being ripped off the most.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 15:14
|
|
|
HiveCommander posted:The bad thread, for sure. Well, there is or at least was a spreadsheet where goons would input their total donation numbers for SC. It could be over-reported or under-reported but the SC site has them listed and if anyone wanted to verify they prob could do so. The highest goon number was $15k if I recall, which I can see being easily topped by a ham that's been playing for 10+ years.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 15:17
|
|
|
enri posted:I feel like you could add any of these blood angels weapons into your faux-advert and they'd fit right in: Reminder that one of the End Times characters is Skarr Bloodwrath, the Bloodborn, who wields the Bloodstorm Blades. Honestly though, I kind of like GW stuff the best when its basically 'ok, your game will be set in the cover art of this 80s metal album', its just that somewhere the awareness of how campy it was kind of slipped. Or maybe it was never there, and I just didn't realize until I got older, I dunno.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 15:22
|
|
|
Ashcans posted:Reminder that one of the End Times characters is Skarr Bloodwrath, the Bloodborn, who wields the Bloodstorm Blades. Yeah, I'd be all over cheesy 80s/90s action figure heavy metal except I think GW is playing it totally straight. I get the sense that they think this poo poo is actually golden, there's nothing tongue-in-cheek about it.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 15:37
|
|
|
FagtasticalMondays posted:This image pretty much sums up the bad thread: That is our reaction to the bad thread. This image pretty much sums up the bad thread. 
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 15:39
|
|
|
They totally knew at least one some level early on that the idea was goofy and over the top in a Judge Dredd kind of way. Somewhere along the line (when the older guys left) they've totally bought into it as an entirely serious concept.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 15:41
|
|
|
Chill la Chill posted:Well, there is or at least was a spreadsheet where goons would input their total donation numbers for SC. It could be over-reported or under-reported but the SC site has them listed and if anyone wanted to verify they prob could do so. The highest goon number was $15k if I recall, which I can see being easily topped by a ham that's been playing for 10+ years. tbf at least the hamgoons have (overpriced) miniatures to show for the thousands they've spent
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 15:43
|
|
|
I think any sense of humour or wimsy GW had vanished the moment when they tried to give an in universe explanation for Noise Marines.
|
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 15:43
|
|
|
Cloven hoof leopard skin marine firing a space guitar so loud your head explodes is too subtle. Not enough skulls and
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 15:49
|
|
|
Moola posted:cant tell which is worse anymore
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 16:20
|
|
|
NGDBSS posted:What are the issues with Star Citizen, anyway? (I only heard about the game perhaps a year ago, and I suspect the relevant Games thread will have a decidedly different tone.) Do you want the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXJZbPI5nKE long version or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc7ywfd1qe8 short version?
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 16:22
|
|
|
I listened to the Heelanhammer podcast today and the level of Stockholm syndrom was even worse than its ever been. "The balance of 7th ed was absolutely horrible, but it was kind of fun and quirky" "Don't sell your warhams just yet. Finish painting what you have or make some terrain. At least you can probably use some of it in the skirmish bit" "If you hate 9th ed you can play other games. *lists other GW games that GW stopped supporting years ago* "[GW] skirmish games [that have been unsupported for years] are so fun and quick and action filled" You know, like the other non-GW skirmish games with cheaper and better models and ARE ACTUALLY SUPPORTED BY THEIR RESPECTIVE COMPANIES. But what's to expect when Wayne is in the process of building his 6th Skaven army or whatever.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 16:28
|
|
|
The "you can play older editions/other GW games" argument is the biggest load of poo poo. I've been involved in GW stuff for a long time and the day an edition comes out the old one is totally dead and outside bloodbowl playing specialist games is rare, especially after they discontinued most of everything.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 16:37
|
|
|
The easiest times I've had in explaining Warhammer 40k to parents is in terms of saying that it's a science fiction setting born of the Thatcher era in the UK, and sometimes I feel like a lot of GWs own writers have forgotten that.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 16:54
|
|
|
I'm pretty sure a lot of people at GW have come under the impression that Space Marines/the Imperium are "the good guys." poo poo. I bet a few of them are Tories.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 17:02
|
|
|
HiveCommander posted:tbf at least the hamgoons have (overpriced) miniatures to show for the thousands they've spent Ah, but you forget that literally every single person who's ever donated money to SC did it as an early backer and has since then resold the package to someone for at least 300%.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 17:02
|
|
|
Radish posted:The "you can play older editions/other GW games" argument is the biggest load of poo poo. I've been involved in GW stuff for a long time and the day an edition comes out the old one is totally dead and outside bloodbowl playing specialist games is rare, especially after they discontinued most of everything. It's funny how rabid these people go for new editions. I never understood this behavior with COD either. You grind hundreds or thousands of hours and get the sweet DEW codes to get all the sweet ninja abilities and drop it all the second the new one's released, even though it's the exact same game. At least with that one they only spent $50 on the game, but time is time.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 17:04
|
|
|
Leperflesh posted:I'm pretty sure a lot of people at GW have come under the impression that Space Marines/the Imperium are "the good guys." This is also why 40k had less actual neonazi-ish elements than Fantasy originally (though in Fantasy they're easily ignored, thankfully), because it came from the same tradition as Judge Dredd and was making fun of that poo poo. That's gone, now.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 17:39
|
|
|
Night10194 posted:This is also why 40k had less actual neonazi-ish elements than Fantasy originally (though in Fantasy they're easily ignored, thankfully), because it came from the same tradition as Judge Dredd and was making fun of that poo poo. Where was fantasy's neo-nazi imagery? Was it just teutonic stuff that Nazi appropriated or was there something big that I missed?
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 17:58
|
|
|
the WMH scene at my LGS died apparently when the new edition of 40k came out. I was kind of interested in getting into it since I have a bunch of orks laying around so buying in wouldn't be something I'd really need to do. Then I asked the guy working there how orks were doing and he just kind of shook his head and well glad I remembered that 40k is a game where a faction can go from good to poo poo overnight and suddenly a bunch of things you've dumped money into are invalid or useless in the new version of the game. The new insanely overpriced codex being full of reused art, photos, and blurbs was the final nail in the coffin. Jesus Christ GW.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 18:12
|
|
|
PresidentBeard posted:Where was fantasy's neo-nazi imagery? Was it just teutonic stuff that Nazi appropriated or was there something big that I missed? The Skaven used to have a lot of overt fascist overtones, what with the black shirted ubermensch elite troops, the pulp nazi style superscience and the very swastika looking triskele. Not to mention the imagery of this vast group of goons that can't get it's poo poo together because every level of it is trying to betray the other parts to gain power/followers has some pretty strong parallels to the British neo-nazi/fascist scene in the 80's.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 18:14
|
|
|
El Estrago Bonito posted:The Skaven used to have a lot of overt fascist overtones, what with the black shirted ubermensch elite troops, the pulp nazi style superscience and the very swastika looking triskele. Not to mention the imagery of this vast group of goons that can't get it's poo poo together because every level of it is trying to betray the other parts to gain power/followers has some pretty strong parallels to the British neo-nazi/fascist scene in the 80's. I can totally see that. Though I wouldn't say that's really a strike against fantasy because they're portrayed as the incompetent comic relief villains most of the time. Like the nazis in Hogan's Heroes.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 18:20
|
|
|
PresidentBeard posted:I can totally see that. Though I wouldn't say that's really a strike against fantasy because they're portrayed as the incompetent comic relief villains most of the time. Like the nazis in Hogan's Heroes. Oh yeah no, they are definitely light hearted parody. In the same vein as how 40k Orks are making fun of 80's British football hooligans and skinheads (well, Stormboys are skinheads specifically or at least they used to be until GW reskinned).
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 18:28
|
|
|
lmao the "new" autarch on bike and shining spears are the old finecast kits on the same old bikes, just reboxed and given a 40% price bump to match the price of the new bikes and warlock/farseer character bike, this company is so bad
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 20:21
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 11, 2024 05:56 |
|
|
The Eldar release in general is loving madness, rules are out in the other thread.
|
|
#
?
Apr 17, 2015 20:25
|
|
