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Dick Trauma posted:I've had a Powershell book in my Amazon wish list for ages. Time to buy! Very similar. Get powershell in a month of lunches. We will be doing a group read of it in the IT books thread at some point if you're interested.
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There are a lot of VM/2012 R2 centric commands in version 4. Namely DSC which is awesome to use. If you're in a Virtual environment there are a lot of commands related to targeting the VM's directly. I would say go with v4. It adds a lot of extra commands that I can see will be relevant moving forward in any windows environment.
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Dick Trauma posted:I've had a Powershell book in my Amazon wish list for ages. Time to buy!
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Apr 16, 2015 19:58
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Migishu posted:A ticket came in: Oh man, I needed this laugh today after the week I've had. I'm picturing either (a) a real lizard skittering around avoiding some goofy bumpkin or (b) someone mistakenly taking a hit of LSD and chasing nothing for 3 hours
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Apr 16, 2015 20:09
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Very similar. Get powershell in a month of lunches. I had the Month of Lunches book in my list but it's for version 3. I'm not seeing anything quite like it for 4. I have a 2012 server so I'd prefer to learn the current Powershell.
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Yahoo chat: Apparently Community has a bigger budget since moving to Yahoo Screen than they got at NBC. Yahoo's got surprisingly deep pockets.anthonypants posted:Do you have a 2012 server? If so, get the version 4 book. Or, if you're at my place, be stuck on 2 because the software approval commitee can't wrap their heads around what Powershell is so they won't approve the upgrade.
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Apr 16, 2015 20:57
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Powershell in a Month of Lunches is written with Server 2012/Windows 8 in mind, for what that's worth.
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Apr 16, 2015 21:33
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There aren't really substantial changes to the way powershell really works between versions, you just get more commands. If you're just trying to learn the basics, I'd recommend month of lunches. Once you've got the basics down, get a current book and see all the new commandlets.
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Apr 16, 2015 21:35
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e: whoops. Powershell is nice but their syntax is extremely unintuitive and whoever barely (poorly) documented the language should be murdered. It's seriously loving dumb. notwithoutmyanus fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Apr 16, 2015 |
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Apr 16, 2015 22:40
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An email came in: "Please not to abbreviated Google Analytics as GooAnal please use full name thank you."
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Apr 16, 2015 22:42
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notwithoutmyanus posted:e: whoops. How do?
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Apr 16, 2015 22:44
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Tab8715 posted:How do? It's a weird combination of Bash and Perl but also object oriented a la .NET.
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Apr 16, 2015 22:45
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I think if it's the first language you learn it's very intuitive. Unfortunately most of us have some basic experience with another language. Things like the | command though are fantastic and a great tool in powershell.
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Apr 16, 2015 22:48
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notwithoutmyanus posted:e: whoops. As somebody who only took programming in high school, and VB at that, I find the syntax of PowerShell stuff to be very intuitive.
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Apr 16, 2015 22:52
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As someone who majored in computer science and has written code in C# and scripts in Bash I find Powershell to be very intuitive and easy to use ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Apr 16, 2015 23:05
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:There aren't really substantial changes to the way powershell really works between versions, you just get more commands. Okay, I'm sold. Thank you all for your feedback.
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Apr 16, 2015 23:08
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I've haven't found powershell that difficult other than the odd ' symbol. I don't know why they had to pick that character.
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Apr 16, 2015 23:25
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As someone who cut his teeth on C and 80x86 ASM , I find powershell extremely loving verbose.
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Apr 16, 2015 23:48
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sfwarlock posted:As someone who cut his teeth on C and 80x86 ASM , I find powershell extremely loving verbose. As someone who codes in Brainfuck, ...........<<<<<<<<<...++++++[........-]
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Holy poo poo, the interview we had today. What a train wreck. Out of 10, he rated himself a 9 on RHEL 5/6, but had never used LVM on Linux. I equated it to saying you're an excellent and experienced driver, but never turned left. Then he proceeded to talk about his Solaris LVM experience by talking about zones. When asked about partitioning (in order to possibly help jog the thought of what we were talking about) he started talking about carving up VMs in VMWare. We finally got him talking about disks and he only talked about MBR partitioning and fdisk. We use LVM pretty extensively, so it's kind of important, not to mention a basic skill for any organization of an appreciable size. By the end of the call we were all sitting around with a WTF look on our faces.
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MJP posted:A really bad idea came in... If you're going to go the "security risk" route, you'll need to define what it is that's putting your company's systems at risk with you being out mixed with regular folks. If it's related to customer systems and data, then you probably have a case. But if you're talking about internal systems you probably don't have much of a leg to stand on; process and policy change/enforcement is going to be more effective. I'm in a limited access environment and the justification for that is primarily that I have direct access to some of our customer's environments and some of my systems live on a limited access, air-gapped network. However, I do think you can argue your case on a pure process and efficiency argument if you are part of the support team. Walk-ups disrupt and bypass the established processes and will reduce the efficacy of service delivery and mess with your ability to deliver quantifiable numbers on how effective and efficient your team is in providing support for your company. That may be your best tack. e: words are hard. edited to make them easier. Proteus Jones fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Apr 17, 2015 |
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Apr 17, 2015 00:16
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sfwarlock posted:As someone who cut his teeth on C and 80x86 ASM , I find powershell extremely loving verbose. When I write scripts, I explicitly invoke every parameter used and don't use aliases. I'm not trying to win a competition for fewest characters used, I'm trying to write things that other people can use.
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1) Stand back from boss 2) You: Pretend to answer the phone. In a normal voice, "Can you hear me?" 3) Boss: "What?" 4) You: "Can you hear me?" 5) Boss: "Yes." 6) You: "Then you and everyone else who happens to be walking by can now break into our poo poo."
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AlexDeGruven posted:Holy poo poo, the interview we had today. What a train wreck. I don't know anything about Linux, but if you're rating yourself a 9/10 on anything, you better be heading up workshops and giving talks at conferences, and people better be referring to you as, "One of the foremost authorities on <thing> today."
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AlexDeGruven posted:We use LVM pretty extensively, so it's kind of important, not to mention a basic skill for any organization of an appreciable size. I can't imagine why you wouldn't use LVM in any Linux build these days, unless you have some unusual storage configuration where it doesn't make sense. Hell, even if you don't use some of the advanced functions, just the ability to easily consolidate, expand, and reallocate space on your filesystems is invaluable. This guy either hasn't actually touched Linux in years (are you sure he specified Red Hat "Enterprise"?  ), or he's been working at a shop supporting a bunch of legacy stuff (or working under some legacy sysadmins).
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dennyk posted:I can't imagine why you wouldn't use LVM in any Linux build these days, unless you have some unusual storage configuration where it doesn't make sense. Hell, even if you don't use some of the advanced functions, just the ability to easily consolidate, expand, and reallocate space on your filesystems is invaluable. This guy either hasn't actually touched Linux in years (are you sure he specified Red Hat "Enterprise"? None of the engineers where I work understood a loving thing about LVM. Most still barely understand it and have to ask me about it all the time. EDIT: Quoted wrong post. I'm sleepy.
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Potato Salad posted:1) Stand back from boss idgi do you say your password out loud when you type it in or something?
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spankmeister posted:idgi do you say your password out loud when you type it in or something? yeah, you can just use codewords when you set up exchanges
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There's a hard drive fairy running around here. Yesterday we had two cases of people booting up and getting HARD DRIVE 0 NOT FOUND Luckily, re-seating the SATA and power cables caused the drives to become recognized and everything was fine. This morning we come in, we have a dead Synology NAS and our Dell SAN is lit up like a Christmas tree.
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larchesdanrew posted:Angry weather girl comes stomping in. Wait sorry you work in a news place and the people there don't know how to use a camera? I mean, I probably couldn't use a news camera either, but I don't work in a newsroom?
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[News Director] said you put this camera back in rotation even though he told you not to. It's broken and it ruined my shoot.
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Bob Morales posted:There's a hard drive fairy running around here. Better swap out all the cables, just in case your coworker is playing a prank!
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OwlFancier posted:Wait sorry you work in a news place and the people there don't know how to use a camera? hosed up, but true. They hire pretty faces, not competency. My supervisor has been at a conference this whole week. He comes back today. He's half an hour late. I was pulled aside yesterday by the General Manager, News Director, Sales Manager, and Lead Producer on separate unrelated occasions and personally thanked for all I've done this week. They made it a point to mention that coming to me actually got stuff done, as opposed to them going to my supervisor and getting shrugged off and insulted. Feels good, man. I'm sitting here waiting for the fireworks when he comes in. He's a notorious hoarder and refuses to throw away any trash, broken equipment, you name it. I work in the engineering shop and it was piled literally to the ceiling with junk. I actually have to sit on the floor to solder because there is zero bench room due to all the stuff I'm not allowed to touch. Yesterday, I spent 10 straight hours spring cleaning the poo poo out of this place. If it had dust on it, I threw it away. It looks fabulous in here, and he's going to flip his goddamn poo poo.
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notwithoutmyanus posted:e: whoops. You mean from a scripting perspective? For someone figuring out commands, the built in (updated) help and cmdlet naming convention have been incredibly helpful so far. Much better than man pages at least.
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larchesdanrew posted:hosed up, but true. They hire pretty faces, not competency. quote:I'm sitting here waiting for the fireworks when he comes in. He's a notorious hoarder and refuses to throw away any trash, broken equipment, you name it. I work in the engineering shop and it was piled literally to the ceiling with junk. I actually have to sit on the floor to solder because there is zero bench room due to all the stuff I'm not allowed to touch. Yesterday, I spent 10 straight hours spring cleaning the poo poo out of this place. If it had dust on it, I threw it away. It looks fabulous in here, and he's going to flip his goddamn poo poo. Tell him that you saw cockroaches and had no choice
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Take the bin of crap to a scrapyard, ask them to crush it into a cube for you, bring it back into work and give it to him, tell him you upgraded the compression on his hardware archive.
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I tried to install some software on a user's computer and got an error message telling me to check the OS version. Looked in system properties and right enough it was Win7 32 bit. With 8GB ram installed. There's a whole bunch of machines just like it.
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bitterandtwisted posted:I tried to install some software on a user's computer and got an error message telling me to check the OS version. Looked in system properties and right enough it was Win7 32 bit. With 8GB ram installed. Sounds like you just got a bunch of free ram.
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larchesdanrew posted:hosed up, but true. They hire pretty faces, not competency. Please post later today to assure us that you're still alive
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Vicas posted:Please post later today to assure us that you're still alive Or employed for that matter. The GM at my station would likely fire whoever threw away his mass amounts of junk (2 closets in his office and a complete office as well as a couple cabinets full of broken poo poo around the building but we can't throw it away because what if we need it ) Saving things like S-Video cables that have breaks somewhere inside the wire and would take forever to figure out where the break is literally pulled from the garbage/dumpster and put back into the building 
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Haquer posted:Or employed for that matter. It's a pretty ballsy power play. If the supervisor flips out, he's now got some potential backers who will go to bat for him in self-interest.
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