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Neddy Seagoon posted:We know, that's why we despise the bitch. If you dont match her flawless button-mashing you're hosed. Guess you better step it up then  I only beat her because you can pause during the race. Never could get the hang of manipulating her rubber banding
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Monkey Fracas posted:I have a feeling there was a "So we can make it big and impressive-looking? Do it, and drat the gameplay consequences!" attitude on some old games. Hyrule Field in OoT comes to mind. This is why I have to admit I'm slightly worried about Zelda on the Wii U and their talk about how big the map is and how long it takes to get places, I'm not a big fan of it taking forever to get somewhere if there's nothing interesting to do along the way. It's one of the biggest reasons LttP is still my favorite Zelda game, every screen has something interesting to do on it, it's not just big stretches of empty land (or water in Wind Waker's case).
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Twelve by Pies posted:This is why I have to admit I'm slightly worried about Zelda on the Wii U and their talk about how big the map is and how long it takes to get places, I'm not a big fan of it taking forever to get somewhere if there's nothing interesting to do along the way. It's one of the biggest reasons LttP is still my favorite Zelda game, every screen has something interesting to do on it, it's not just big stretches of empty land (or water in Wind Waker's case). Yeah I agree. If Zelda for the Wii U has as much going on in their big open world as A Link to the Past did then I will be really happy. In fact, they do not even need to take it THAT far. Even half of what LttP had would be very satisfying.
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Twelve by Pies posted:This is why I have to admit I'm slightly worried about Zelda on the Wii U and their talk about how big the map is and how long it takes to get places, I'm not a big fan of it taking forever to get somewhere if there's nothing interesting to do along the way. It's one of the biggest reasons LttP is still my favorite Zelda game, every screen has something interesting to do on it, it's not just big stretches of empty land (or water in Wind Waker's case). Yeah, 3D Zelda has never gotten down the overworld exploration like some of the 2D games have.
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Tatsuta Age posted:I for real tore the palm of my hand up as a kid on that stupid Shy-Guy spin game I used to hold the controller sideways and spin it kind of like a fishing reel. As long as I kept my hand loose and didn't actually grip the stick, I could get it going pretty fast. I couldn't understand the blistered palms the first time I read about that happening.
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It might be worth rewatching that one trailer from like a year ago where Aonuma talks about designing an open world Zelda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZmxvig1dXE I dunno, I guess I have faith that they know what they're doing with it. (And the delay sucks but probably for the best otherwise we might have gotten the bad kind of open world you guys are talking about)
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Twelve by Pies posted:This is why I have to admit I'm slightly worried about Zelda on the Wii U and their talk about how big the map is and how long it takes to get places, I'm not a big fan of it taking forever to get somewhere if there's nothing interesting to do along the way. It's one of the biggest reasons LttP is still my favorite Zelda game, every screen has something interesting to do on it, it's not just big stretches of empty land (or water in Wind Waker's case). I think if Zelda Wii U suffers from "Oot Syndrome", then we'll all be very much okay.
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Twelve by Pies posted:This is why I have to admit I'm slightly worried about Zelda on the Wii U and their talk about how big the map is and how long it takes to get places, I'm not a big fan of it taking forever to get somewhere if there's nothing interesting to do along the way. It's one of the biggest reasons LttP is still my favorite Zelda game, every screen has something interesting to do on it, it's not just big stretches of empty land (or water in Wind Waker's case). It doesn't get the "exploration" part down, but I appreciate what Skyward Sword did as far as having a dense world with puzzles/obstacles.
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Treebeh posted:I think if Zelda Wii U suffers from "Oot Syndrome", then we'll all be very much okay. Being overrated?
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We don't exactly have a general Nintendo thread, so I'll just post here: Got the first issue of Year 3 of Nintendo Force in the mail today. Issue #14 has an "Old vs. New" theme, with a look back at the Mario Party franchise and a look forward at new IPs like Codename S.T.E.A.M. and Splatoon in particular. I never realized that for its first 7 installments, Mario Party was an annual series, and there was only a 2 year gap between 7 and 8. Sadly, the drawbacks of a physical publication are apparent, there's a small sidebar feature on the upcoming (as of time of writing) release of Mewtwo for Smash 4, with an expressed disappointment that no other DLC was announced. And there was a small speculative piece about what the next franchise to use amiibo would be...with no mention of Splatoon or Woolly World, since the issue went to print before the Direct. On the whole though, NF is still a worthy successor to Nintendo Power and as long as they keep focusing on retrospectives, reviews and interviews rather than trying to have the latest and greatest information, it'll remain worth the cover price.
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Waltzing Along posted:Being overrated? 
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Treebeh posted:I think if Zelda Wii U suffers from "Oot Syndrome", then we'll all be very much okay. I hope not since OoT is garbage and Twilight Princess was all the more forgettable for trying to be a "return to form". Wind Waker was the only good 3D zelda until a Link Between Worlds.
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I watched that sequelitis video too, didn't think it was that great if we're being honest For the record, I do think OoT is overrated and Wind Waker is my favorite 3D Zelda, discounting LBTW, but bad? Nah
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Apr 18, 2015 00:13
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I understand its easy to dismiss the fact that OoT is garbage because some idiot youtube personality happens to share the same opinion but that doesn't change the fact that OoT is garbage.
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Raserys posted:I watched that sequelitis video too, didn't think it was that great if we're being honest He's said upon retrospect he kind of regretted doing that sequelitis because it didn't really have any real point beyond "OoT sucks" and he was being overly harsh on it.
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Apr 18, 2015 00:17
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We can all agree that the best Zelda game is Link's Crossbow Training.
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:I hope not since OoT is garbage and Twilight Princess was all the more forgettable for trying to be a "return to form". Wind Waker was the only good 3D zelda until a Link Between Worlds. Since when it's LBW a 3d Zelda? I don't consider the ds ones 3d either...
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technically it is 3d but it's in the spirit of the 2d games
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Its in literal 3D unless you lack depth perception
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If they want to make sure everyone likes the new Zelda as an open-world game they're going to have to make it an enormous empty wasteland of hills and grass and put ten hour long load times like Skyrim and also make sure nothing works at all and everyone will love it
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Apr 18, 2015 00:50
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Its in literal 3D unless you lack depth perception It plays in 2D though. If you can look up in a Zelda game, it's a 3D Zelda. If you can't, it's a 2D Zelda.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:It plays in 2D though. That's what I feel. Didn't realize this was debatable.
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Apr 18, 2015 00:55
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It's not. Pay attention to who you're arguing with.
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Treebeh posted:I think if Zelda Wii U suffers from "Oot Syndrome", then we'll all be very much okay. But I don't just want "okay" that's the problem. I like OoT but I want something more impressive and I'm worried that Zelda Wii U will just be, well whaley posted:an enormous empty wasteland of hills and grass
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Regy Rusty posted:It's not. Pay attention to who you're arguing with. He changed his avatar so it's hard to tell
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Waltzing Along posted:Being overrated? virtualboyCOLOR posted:I hope not since OoT is garbage and Twilight Princess was all the more forgettable for trying to be a "return to form". Wind Waker was the only good 3D zelda until a Link Between Worlds. Twelve by Pies posted:But I don't just want "okay" that's the problem. I like OoT but I want something more impressive and I'm worried that Zelda Wii U will just be, well
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oot is really bland and i will not respect it
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Treebeh posted:Taking OoT criticisms very seriously. For a console RPG at the time, yes, it was pretty good. Compared to PC RPGs at the time, yes, it was overrated.
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Waltzing Along posted:For a console RPG at the time, yes, it was pretty good. ... it's not an RPG. Also unless it was first-person ala Doom, combat in 3D games sucked rear end until OoT, and that includes PC games.
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oddium posted:oot is really bland and i will not respect it Agreed. Gerudo Valley owns tho
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I hope the new Zelda has giants that knock you into the Stratosphere.
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Ocarina of Time won game of the year of 1998. Ocarina of Time was the first video game to ever get a perfect 10/10 from Famitsu. Ocarina of Time was the first game to pioneer Z-Targeting and lets face it, that was a big deal which all future 3D games took note of. I'll admit, Ocarina of Time isn't perfect, but it was a masterpiece when it was created (in 1998) and it still is a freaking amazing game! We've just had 16 years to nitpick it and the Internet likes to dislike popular things. It was revolutionary at the time and it is still fun to play to this day. Many people consider it the best Zelda game and even the best video game ever made; so it did something right. Something isn't overrated if a statistically significant amount of people love it. Just try to remember playing that game for the first time, you didn't know what was going to happen, you didn't know about getting a horse and riding around, or Hyrule Field, or even sneaking through the castle garden to meet with the princess. It was all new and exciting. (and Gerudo Valley rules) I played Ocarina of Time for the first time when I was a kid (so maybe I had a more active imagination) but it felt like I was actually in Hyrule on a quest with Link and that is a powerful feeling. Again, I was also younger... As for Splatoon, I'm disappointed it is $35 to get the 3 Amiibos that are compatible with the game. That's almost the cost of the video game itself...
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jivjov posted:Maybe this pair of DLC packs was successful enough to warrant another set.. I wonder if it would just be more cost effective all round to just keep releasing new tracks as DLC until the end of the consoles life. I mean, they're not going to make a better looking version of it. I'm no expert, but the balancing and gimmicks seem about as good as they've ever been in a mario kart and it's got a pretty decent online system. Instead of making a new game every few years, just churn out a new set of tracks a quarter (resulting in 16 for the year). As long as it's priced decently i'm sure people would buy the hell out of that. I could just see it being as successful as the rockband music store.
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Spectacle Rock posted:Ocarina of Time won game of the year of 1998. 
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Goldeneye won best game of whatever year and it was a garbage shooter, who cares about awards.
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Spectacle Rock posted:Ocarina of Time won game of the year of 1998. The Hurt Locker won best movie in 2009 at the Oscars and that movie was hot dogshit so awards and reviews don't mean anything edit: And to be more relevant, DESTINY won game of the year in one of the game award shows which is  so
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Quest For Glory II posted:Goldeneye won best game of whatever year and it was a garbage shooter, who cares about awards. *GASP* How dare you blemish my rose-tinted glasses by defiling the legacy of the greatest shooter ever made! Perfect Dark was better anyways
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What does hit TV show South Park have to say on the topic of the quality of Zelda games?
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Regy Rusty posted:What does hit TV show South Park have to say on the topic of the quality of Zelda games?
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