Competitive League of Legends: The Great Korean Pilgrimage of Spring 2015

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Manic_Misanthrope: Jul 1, 2010

Jayisspecial posted:

I also feel like there was no way Scarra would have been supportive of removing players after they presumably lobbied to some degree to have him put in place. It was incestuous. CLG had a chance this split to pay big money for some foreign talent and instead they went with the lovely, inexperienced failure that is Scarra while also keeping Link. It's too bad they didn't get relegated, really. It sounds like there's challenger teams more invested in building a team than them.

There's something to be said about not throwing out the baby with the bath water. CLG has some issues running deeper than the roster/coach, and solving those should be the priority before shelling out for Korean talent who might not work out despite paying a hefty sum of money for. Their performance in the league was generally very good but they fell apart at the end, like they've done with pretty much every lineup they've had since LCS started.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 00:25

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# ? May 29, 2024 15:25

PlaceholderPigeon: Dec 31, 2012

Scarra might have been fine as a team mom/coach for laning and poo poo, but they need a real head coach.

I notice they put the age as 25+; they must have seen that Summoning Insight thing w/ Dentist.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 00:36

Lovechop: Feb 1, 2005; cheers mate

Luna Was Here posted:

hotshot....making good decisions? what is this world?

also has incarnati0n been picked up by anyone? feels like its this dudes time to shine

it's almost definitely C9

# ? Apr 18, 2015 00:45

Schiavona: Oct 8, 2008

Allyn posted:

She was a mid laner in season 3 (or was it 4? I forget)

Was this back when Riven was total horseshit and red pot start was all the rage or after?

Also what is Elementz up to these days? I'm surprised we haven't seen him pop up as a coach for a lower level team. He seemed to be really levelheaded and had actual sports experience to draw on for lessons on keeping team morale pretty positive.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 00:53

KicksYouInHalf: Aug 6, 2007; National tragedy.

Schiavona posted:

Was this back when Riven was total horseshit and red pot start was all the rage or after?

Also what is Elementz up to these days? I'm surprised we haven't seen him pop up as a coach for a lower level team. He seemed to be really levelheaded and had actual sports experience to draw on for lessons on keeping team morale pretty positive.

He coached old coach, he was bad, and he brought that real sports hype poo poo like chants and all the players hated it

# ? Apr 18, 2015 01:04

Sexpansion: Mar 22, 2003; DELETED

Admoon posted:

RIP Scarra

CLG is hilarious but this is a good decision. Their pick/ban and overall strategy was pretty drat bad.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 01:29

foutre: Sep 4, 2011; RIP ZEEZ

KicksYouInHalf posted:

He coached old coach, he was bad, and he brought that real sports hype poo poo like chants and all the players hated it

I dunno, it sounded more like he just had expectations w/r/t schedule and dedication that Coast didn't really match up to. They just wanted to wake up late and solo q, he wanted them to get up before noon, exercise, analyze, and whatnot. It wasn't a bad idea, it's what a lot of better teams do, but Coast was just not going to have that happen.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 01:43

KicksYouInHalf: Aug 6, 2007; National tragedy.

foutre posted:

I dunno, it sounded more like he just had expectations w/r/t schedule and dedication that Coast didn't really match up to. They just wanted to wake up late and solo q, he wanted them to get up before noon, exercise, analyze, and whatnot. It wasn't a bad idea, it's what a lot of better teams do, but Coast was just not going to have that happen.

From the sounds of things, literally no western team does that. Not to say it isn't a good idea but big part of being a good coach is motivating players to improve and he very clearly was going about it the wrong way. Hell, it's really hard to motivate people to go the extra mile when you are a player infamous for doing the bare minimum. There is a reason that no better teams picked him up in literally any capacity even if he had a good plan laid out.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 02:32

Calax: Oct 5, 2011

From what Sneaky says on stream, they get up at noon ish and end up at the Logitech offices practicing until like 7 or 8.

And the Team Liquid series is up again. Quas just made me feel old... he was 5 when he got an N64, and his first game was Age of Empires 2. Although there are some fantastic Comms from the show. Piglet yells "Doublift! One Handed! YeahhhH!" during his game on Kog.

Calax fucked around with this message at 02:55 on Apr 18, 2015

# ? Apr 18, 2015 02:48

Keven. Just. Keven: May 25, 2010; MY GOD. THE WILL... THE FIGHTING SPIRIT... JUST WHEN YOU THINK IT'S OVER, TSM COMES BACK STRONGER THAN EVER.

Every top team plays like 12 hours a day & if they want those hours to be between noon and two am who cares. I mean it would clearly be better for all of them if they had like a house chef and had to run a mile every day but ultimately who gives a poo poo.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 02:53

wodin: Jul 12, 2001; What do you do with a drunken Viking?

Manic_Misanthrope posted:

There's something to be said about not throwing out the baby with the bath water. CLG has some issues running deeper than the roster/coach, and solving those should be the priority before shelling out for Korean talent who might not work out despite paying a hefty sum of money for. Their performance in the league was generally very good but they fell apart at the end, like they've done with pretty much every lineup they've had since LCS started.

Yep. It's more or less a violation of 'dance with the girl that brung ya' - Scarra didn't fix every problem, but he created an environment where CLG players were actually happy playing and had the framework to succeed outside of patch adaptation. It seems like a pretty shortsighted move in my opinion.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 04:00

Calax: Oct 5, 2011

Thoooooorin apparently forgot that IEM San Jose existed and featured a UoL vs TSM matchup (in his show he acted like he'd orgasm if Power of Evil 1v1 killed Bjergsen... which has already happened).

And now I'm finishing the Liquid show, and holy poo poo they have the audio of the between game meetings it's mostly discussion of picks and bans.

Calax fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Apr 18, 2015

# ? Apr 18, 2015 04:54

Libertine: Jun 21, 2004; When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Was Omg/LGD any good or not worth watching? Maybe I'll just pick up on second round of LPL.

I watched Jin Air take a steamy dump Vs CJ this afternoon and wish I had just gambled on the LPL series VOD instead. That wasn't even competitive. What happened to Jin Air?

Scarra sucks at pretty much everything. It was a joke that CLG hired him so I'm not surprised that they finally realized it. CLG needs more work than that though.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 06:20

RealFoxy: May 11, 2011; I'm not making a fucking QCS thread for this but seriously can we take a harder stance on Kiwifarms freaks like this guy, Jesus Christ seriously, you used to be better at knocking these creeps down. I guess ADTRW mods aren't responsible like GBS mods are.

Libertine posted:

Was Omg/LGD any good or not worth watching? Maybe I'll just pick up on second round of LPL.

I watched Jin Air take a steamy dump Vs CJ this afternoon and wish I had just gambled on the LPL series VOD instead. That wasn't even competitive. What happened to Jin Air?

Scarra sucks at pretty much everything. It was a joke that CLG hired him so I'm not surprised that they finally realized it. CLG needs more work than that though.

Jin Air didn't adapt to the meta, and this meta is probably the best meta for Shy since people were proxy farming in each other's bases in Season 2.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 06:39

PlaceholderPigeon: Dec 31, 2012

Libertine posted:

Was Omg/LGD any good or not worth watching? Maybe I'll just pick up on second round of LPL.

I watched Jin Air take a steamy dump Vs CJ this afternoon and wish I had just gambled on the LPL series VOD instead. That wasn't even competitive. What happened to Jin Air?

Scarra sucks at pretty much everything. It was a joke that CLG hired him so I'm not surprised that they finally realized it. CLG needs more work than that though.

I think its less about Jin Air and more about CJ playing amazingly. They had full control of the games and they never let up.

But still, I think Jin Air were somewhat of a meta team and they haven't figured out how to adapt.

Imp/Acorn/Flame played nicely vs OMG. OMG picked really badly though

e: Speaking of steamy dumps, watching Energy Pacemaker take down both nexus turrets when they had almost their whole base and then proceed to lose the game anyways was sad.

PlaceholderPigeon fucked around with this message at 06:52 on Apr 18, 2015

# ? Apr 18, 2015 06:40

Skippy McPants: Mar 19, 2009

Schiavona posted:

Was this back when Riven was total horseshit and red pot start was all the rage or after?

During that exact time, and also during the hight of the assassin meta, which Riven helpfully crapped all over in addition her being complete horseshit in the hands of a competent player.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 07:01

Lovechop: Feb 1, 2005; cheers mate

http://ask.fm/nuk3duck/answer/128469800875

apparently roccat aren;t gonna make any roster changes, so rip

# ? Apr 18, 2015 15:30

Flipswitch: Mar 30, 2010

Woolite will be suicidal by the end of next split.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 15:39

Libertine: Jun 21, 2004; When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Flipswitch posted:

Woolite will be suicidal by the end of next split.

I thought ROCCAT had already released Woolite?

# ? Apr 18, 2015 15:48

Lovechop: Feb 1, 2005; cheers mate

Libertine posted:

I thought ROCCAT had already released Woolite?

they probably tried a couple out but just couldn't find anyone else who could walk into unwarded bushes with such finesse

# ? Apr 18, 2015 15:50

Calax: Oct 5, 2011

Jesus Madrid is LOUD

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:04

Disinterested: Jun 29, 2011; You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

Calax posted:

Jesus Madrid is LOUD

Spaniards are more passionate than Germans, who'd a thunk it?

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:07

funmanguy: Apr 20, 2006; What time is it?

archduke.iago posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uRB6Bhz3Hk

rabidsquid posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVtQ-iqhGA8

Also this is the best reaction play I have ever seen in League of Legends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He_j9g4SSMw

funmanguy fucked around with this message at 16:11 on Apr 18, 2015

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:07

Victory Lap: Feb 25, 2001

Leviathan looks like his razor broke halfway through shaving this morning and just decided gently caress it.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:09

Calax: Oct 5, 2011

And Forg1ven gets MVP for the spring split.

Not Diamond

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:12

funmanguy: Apr 20, 2006; What time is it?

Calax posted:

And Forg1ven gets MVP for the spring split.

Not Diamond

You can make strong arguments for both. I think it's partly because forgiven is a 'comeback' player, or at least riot really wants him to be.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:15

Disinterested: Jun 29, 2011; You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

funmanguy posted:

I mean, that was the end of Regi's career tbf. That situation is hosed for Zed because Regi didn't dodge anything with his ult.

Calax posted:

And Forg1ven gets MVP for the spring split.

Not Diamond

I think that's fine tbh.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:15

Allyn: Sep 4, 2007; I love Charlie from Busted!

rabidsquid posted:

Also this is the best reaction play I have ever seen in League of Legends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He_j9g4SSMw

Not Faker, but this is a pretty sick reaction play too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70hSHYuI_A0

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:16

Lovechop: Feb 1, 2005; cheers mate

forgiven 100% deserved that award

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:16

Allyn: Sep 4, 2007; I love Charlie from Busted!

Yeah as much as I love Diamond he wasn't in the conversation compared to Forg1ven and Huni tbh

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:18

funmanguy: Apr 20, 2006; What time is it?

Esport crowds in spain are awesome.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:21

Allyn: Sep 4, 2007; I love Charlie from Busted!

Is it just me or does the aspect ratio on p/b screen look out of whack? Everything looks slightly squished

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:21

funmanguy: Apr 20, 2006; What time is it?

Allyn posted:

Is it just me or does the aspect ratio on p/b screen look out of whack? Everything looks slightly squished

Not just you, looks like something is being forced from 4:3 to 16:something.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:22

Firebert: Aug 16, 2004

huh, Sejuani is up *picks nidalee and reksai*

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:23

Libertine: Jun 21, 2004; When I die, I hope they say I made the eSports industry a better place than I made millions of dollars.

Was Diamond a top vote getter for MVP or however they decide it? I didn't even figure him to be in the discussion. It was like Forgiven or Febiven in my opinion, and Forgiven is probably more deserving from his split performance.

# ? Apr 18, 2015 16:24