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Mahoning posted:One is a seemingly decent human being who told the truth about a lovely human being, which is of course his job. This doesn't really reflect very poorly on ESPN as a whole, at least to the general public. The other was just being a lovely awful human being, which of course makes ESPN look VERY bad to the general public. At least temporarily. No one is going to care or remember in a week anyway. More than likely she is going to become the patron saint of those who have been towed. And no they will not hire fat chicks because of this. They can be annoying cunts too.
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Apr 17, 2015 10:20
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Britt McHenry did something pretty stupid but there's a lot of weird sexism ITT for some reason?
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Apr 17, 2015 15:18
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WayAbvPar posted:So Simmons gets three weeks for calling Roger Goodell a liar (which, of course, he is), and this sociopath gets a week. I guess no one at ESPN is currently loving Simmons. On the other hand, Simmons suspension was related to his job. I understand why ESPN suspended her, but it's kind of weird to get suspended from your job for being an rear end in a top hat in your private life.
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Apr 17, 2015 17:21
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If you have never dealt with Advance Towing here in Northern Virginia I envy you. This is a towing company that towed a legally parked car with kids in it a few weeks ago and when called on out on it said "well uh the windows are tinted." They are absolute scum and from what I've seen in DC people are on her side. There's a movement getting started to get them debarred from working with the local government, they're that horrible. http://www.arlnow.com/2015/04/16/video-espn-reporter-berates-advanced-towing-employee/ and here we see that in a poll of Arlington residents 84% say that Advance Towing "are predators" plus around 350 comments telling stories of how people have been screwed by them. Stories include tales of cars being intentionally damaged, excessive speeding, property theft and cover-up (stealing parking permits so a tow appears legal). http://www.arlnow.com/2015/04/06/morning-poll-doing-their-job-or-preying-on-you/ and http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Arlington-Tow-Truck-Driver-Hooks-Car-With-Children-Inside-298537061.html quote:An Arlington father says his car -- and two children -- were nearly towed away during a recent trip to a local CVS, but the company that hooked his vehicle says their driver didn't see the children initially. Advance Towing are not a poor little company getting abused by a powerful media star. They're a shady as hell corrupt company getting abused by a powerful media star. axeil fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Apr 17, 2015 |
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Apr 17, 2015 18:18
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What a piece of poo poo.
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Them being a lovely company doesn't justify the deplorable things she said to that woman. A college degree isn't a ticket to look down upon other people.
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Apr 17, 2015 20:03
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Oh yeah, I forgot that lovely companies being lovely gives you a free pass to treat their employees like poo poo and hurl verbal insults at them. Excuse me while I head to Wal Mart to call the greeter a wrinkly old ugly gently caress with fake teeth and saggy old bitch tits.
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Apr 17, 2015 20:04
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hcreight posted:Them being a lovely company doesn't justify the deplorable things she said to that woman. A college degree isn't a ticket to look down upon other people. Bingo. My Facebook is full of attempted justifiable poorshaming.
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Apr 17, 2015 20:05
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She was real lovely but I'm not at all comfortable with the idea that corporations should get to discipline you for your behavior in private life. I think her level of evil is on the other side of the line for me from rape/domestic abuse.
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Apr 17, 2015 20:12
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hcreight posted:Them being a lovely company doesn't justify the deplorable things she said to that woman. A college degree isn't a ticket to look down upon other people. the company leaking the video is pretty messed up too given their track record.
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Apr 17, 2015 20:16
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Them being a bad company doesn't justify her acting like human garbage.
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Apr 17, 2015 20:29
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hcreight posted:Them being a lovely company doesn't justify the deplorable things she said to that woman. A college degree isn't a ticket to look down upon other people. I hate that poo poo. I have a friend who has two groups he socializes with - ours (fortysomethings) and the other who are all mid twenties to early thirties. The last time he had a gathering that included both groups, one of the younger girls said rather loudly that "people who have college degrees are just better people than those that don't." Yeah, that didn't go over well.
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Apr 17, 2015 20:41
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Mornacale posted:She was real lovely but I'm not at all comfortable with the idea that corporations should get to discipline you for your behavior in private life. I think her level of evil is on the other side of the line for me from rape/domestic abuse. I'd be willing to be there are clauses about outward facing behavior unbecoming of an employee over at ESPN.
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Apr 17, 2015 21:04
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Also in public you are expected to be a representative of your employer. It's been this way for decades, if you do something publicly embarrassing it reflects poorly on your employer. It's just that there's far more outlets for embarrassment to become public now.
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Apr 17, 2015 21:14
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Robnoxious posted:ESPN really needs to hire Holly Rowe
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Apr 17, 2015 22:01
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Niwrad posted:On the other hand, Simmons suspension was related to his job. I understand why ESPN suspended her, but it's kind of weird to get suspended from your job for being an rear end in a top hat in your private life. When your job is being on TV, the rules are slightly different than when your job is installing cable. Especially when you lord your job over the lesser people like a narcissistic shithead. Even then, I guarantee you that there are many employers who would discipline or even terminate employees with more private jobs if they were publicly exposed this way.
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Apr 17, 2015 22:26
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soggybagel posted:I'd be willing to be there are clauses about outward facing behavior unbecoming of an employee over at ESPN. Blast Fantasto posted:Also in public you are expected to be a representative of your employer. It's been this way for decades, if you do something publicly embarrassing it reflects poorly on your employer. Yes, these are the bad things that I don't like.
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Apr 17, 2015 22:35
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Mornacale posted:Yes, these are the bad things that I don't like. While that's unfortunate, it's not changing any time soon and also you can usually avoid it by not being a total rear end in a top hat.
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Apr 17, 2015 22:41
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Mornacale posted:Yes, these are the bad things that I don't like. So employers should have no recourse for their lovely employees embarrassing the company and possibly harming their reputation?
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Apr 17, 2015 23:14
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Mahoning posted:So employers should have no recourse for their lovely employees embarrassing the company and possibly harming their reputation? Employers being able to arbitrarily decide when an employee "embarrasses" them - or feeling they have any ownership over private actions - is a problem, yes.
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Apr 18, 2015 00:53
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midwat posted:Employers being able to arbitrarily decide when an employee "embarrasses" them - or feeling they have any ownership over private actions - is a problem, yes. Hypothetical employee can sue for wrongful termination.
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Apr 18, 2015 02:46
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Parlett316 posted:Hypothetical employee can sue for wrongful termination. They could. And in most states they would lose.
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Apr 18, 2015 02:52
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Mahoning posted:They could. And in most states they would lose. Well that sucks for them. Anyway, Ms. McHenry isn't going to lose her job, she might get regulated to a hockey or baseball game which is a shame since she was getting scoops are Redskin games.
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Apr 18, 2015 03:24
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I forgot about the time that company towed a Jimmy John's driver when he stopped to make a delivery. Their employees, all of them, should be berated openly and pelted with rotten fruit.
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Apr 18, 2015 05:58
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Mahoning posted:Oh yeah, I forgot that lovely companies being lovely gives you a free pass to treat their employees like poo poo and hurl verbal insults at them. I'm not trying to be glib but do we know why she was being towed? I mean if a tow company has a history of towing people for literal nothing just to wring money out, and if she was a victim of that, it's more like 'it's kinda a dick move to call a greeter a wrinkled sack of poo poo just because they work for a company that has a history of stealing from customers and they had their hand in the person who got pissed's pockets' isn't it? Like, I don't think anyone's saying she's not a bitch, but if she was getting hosed by some scumbag company running straight up scams on people...kinda hard to give too much of a poo poo about her being a bitch.
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Apr 18, 2015 06:11
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Tatum Girlparts posted:if she was getting hosed by some scumbag company running straight up scams on people http://www.arlnow.com/2011/07/21/favola-vote-on-towing-coincided-with-2500-donation/ where I come from, we call this shady as all hell so yes I've lived in Northern VA for five years and not once has my car ever gone into Arlington because Advanced will tow you for no particular reason. Or almost crash into you while they're darting to tow someone.
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Apr 18, 2015 06:24
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I am currently working on taking down a scummy, scammy as poo poo tow company in the SF Bay Area and I can tell you that if you just tow for whatever, at least in California, your whole operation can get shut down. Also most tow companies are cool as heck. Pay your parking tickets and don't park where you shouldn't.
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Apr 18, 2015 06:26
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Tatum Girlparts posted:I'm not trying to be glib but do we know why she was being towed? I mean if a tow company has a history of towing people for literal nothing just to wring money out, and if she was a victim of that, it's more like 'it's kinda a dick move to call a greeter a wrinkled sack of poo poo just because they work for a company that has a history of stealing from customers and they had their hand in the person who got pissed's pockets' isn't it? Like, I don't think anyone's saying she's not a bitch, but if she was getting hosed by some scumbag company running straight up scams on people...kinda hard to give too much of a poo poo about her being a bitch. She definitely came off poorly in that video and should be embarrassed by it, but I'm also not surprised that someone in that situation would behave an ugly way that they normally wouldn't behave like. It's stressful, she was super lovely, I don't mind seeing her criticized but I feel like people are being weirdly unsympathetic in a situation where if they were in her shoes, they'd be pretty pissy and might be ruder than normal.
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Apr 18, 2015 07:02
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Mahoning posted:So employers should have no recourse for their lovely employees embarrassing the company and possibly harming their reputation? Employers should not have any power over employees that doesn't flow from the employees as a group (or their elected managers). It is sometimes the lesser of two evils for employers, while they still have this power, to use it to punish criminals that our lovely justice system will not, such as rapists and abusers. Punishing employees for bigotry straddles the line--it's good to punish bigots but it's much less effective coming from a hierarchical source--and I honestly don't know where I fall on punishing classism and fatphobia in this context. But it definitely is not acceptable for it to come from a place of "preventing embarrassment to the company" and if ESPN wanted to credibly fight for poor or overweight people then a one-week suspension for a low-level employee doesn't begin to cut it.
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Apr 18, 2015 08:47
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Mornacale posted:Employers should not have any power over employees that doesn't flow from the employees as a group (or their elected managers). It is sometimes the lesser of two evils for employers, while they still have this power, to use it to punish criminals that our lovely justice system will not, such as rapists and abusers. Punishing employees for bigotry straddles the line--it's good to punish bigots but it's much less effective coming from a hierarchical source--and I honestly don't know where I fall on punishing classism and fatphobia in this context. But it definitely is not acceptable for it to come from a place of "preventing embarrassment to the company" and if ESPN wanted to credibly fight for poor or overweight people then a one-week suspension for a low-level employee doesn't begin to cut it. Yeah, I agree with this (other than the "low level employee" part; an on-air talent is pretty high level for a media company). While I understand why ESPN suspended her - their hand is forced because of PR reasons - I'm still a little uncomfortable with a company punishing an employee for any act or behaviour that happens outside of their duties as an employee. The line is a bit muddied by the fact that whateverhernameis is a public face of the company, but she was acting as a representative of herself in this incident, not as a representative of ESPN. Should public representatives of a company be beholden to a higher standard in their personal lives and thus be subjected to punishment if they do something stupid in their private lives? I don't know, but I'd generally lean towards them having the same leeway as the rest of us normal employees and not expect to be suspended from work because we were rude to a service employee (which we all have been at some point). Then again, it's probably easiest just to say "haha, stupid oval office, got what she deserved, gently caress you!"
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Apr 18, 2015 09:13
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Why does the tow company reputation matter? The comments were entirely based on the employees education level and appearance, barely anything was said about the company policies. Also, how dumb do you have to be to say all that after being told you were being recorded.
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Apr 18, 2015 13:43
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Lockback posted:Why does the tow company reputation matter? The comments were entirely based on the employees education level and appearance, barely anything was said about the company policies. We also very conveniently don't have what the employee was saying. Having dealt with this particular woman before she's a vile human being and was probably being antagonistic.
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Apr 18, 2015 13:51
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If she didn't want to get in trouble with her employer maybe she shouldn't have brought up her employer in a 'I'm better than you cause I'm on TV' manner?
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Apr 18, 2015 15:26
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A Typical Goon posted:If she didn't want to get in trouble with her employer maybe she shouldn't have brought up her employer in a 'I'm better than you cause I'm on TV' manner? nah the company is bad so she should be able to lord her television work over the guy making minimum wage
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Apr 18, 2015 23:12
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I'm still against the towing company until someone shows me an unedited video. Given all the local chatter about how Gina the Cashier is a major pain in the rear end, I'm pretty sure this was provoked. The company has been in the news a lot lately for being...terrible in every way.
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Apr 19, 2015 02:27
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Sash! posted:I'm still against the towing company until someone shows me an unedited video. There can be more than one lovely human being allowed in a situation hth
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Apr 19, 2015 04:57
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Spoeank posted:There can be more than one lovely human being allowed in a situation hth Uh, yeah, I pointed that out myself a long time ago. But I want Advanced's ability to be extort a fee for stealing people's cars to be eliminated, so anyone that openly mocks their employees is fine with me
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Apr 19, 2015 17:55
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Yes, that's how to eliminate harmful business practices: make fun of individual employees for being fat and poor.
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Apr 19, 2015 18:06
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I can't read nevermind 
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Mornacale posted:Yes, that's how to eliminate harmful business practices: make fun of individual employees for being fat and poor. Again, since we don't have the unedited video what's to say the reason she went in with the personal insults is because the employee opened with them? Again, I have personally met the employee in question and she is a foul and miserable human being who called me a deadbeat for legally parking my car. So it wouldn't surprise me at all that this is all fake.
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