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Deku's severely handicapped when it comes to his quirk, so I don't think it's entirely fair to blame him for having to hold back.
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TriffTshngo posted:Pulling the "everyone else is trying their hardest but you're holding back" card could've also been sent right back Midoriya's way because both he and Todoroki have technically been holding back their full power. Deku doesn't use his full power because he could wind up killing himself.
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Apr 18, 2015 20:28
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He'd probably skewer a person or two with some bones exploding out of him too.
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Apr 18, 2015 20:31
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Terper posted:Deku's severely handicapped when it comes to his quirk, so I don't think it's entirely fair to blame him for having to hold back. He's essentially yelling at Todoroki to ignore his decade+ of abuse and emotional baggage. That's just as unreasonable as telling Midoriya to hurry up and get good at not exploding your arms every time you punch the air. Just because he admits he doesn't understand Todoroki's circumstances doesn't make him not an rear end in a top hat for saying "hey get over it because I think that's lame." Like I said both outcomes would have been fine to me, it's just that I feel like Midoriya comes across like a jerk sometimes in situations like these and I think it would be interesting if someone calls him on his poo poo at some point.
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Apr 18, 2015 21:17
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Its a shounen manga and Deku is exactly the kind of person who knows how he feels and what he needs to say due to not even having a quirk for most of his life
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Mindblast posted:Yeah Firedad has yet to realise what it actually means. He feels he's finally getting what he wants. I don't know that Firedad will care. Even if Todoroki starts using his fire powers while telling his dad to eat it if Firedad cares more about seeing him use those powers than his own relationship with Todoroki or his own standing then he kind of wins regardless. And he does by the looks of things. Just because he'd win if Todoroki uses his fire power isn't really a reason to not use them though, because Todoroki can help people more and become a better person (in that he'd be getting over his own issues/past) by using them regardless of how he feels about his dad. Twiddy posted:You know, I was wondering about a satisfying way that Todoroki could actually lose this fight. Dude;s been shown to be way too powerful for it to be easy for Deku to just win. I really like this idea of him sacrificing this short term victory to learn to use a power he's been neglecting out of spite. After this chapter I'm not seeing why you'd need such a reason. Yea, Deku's pretty hosed while Todoroki has just activated his full power, but Todoroki wasn't exactly holding back on the ice attacks and Deku still blew through those attacks and put the hurt on him. There's no reason he can't blow through any fire attacks Todoroki produces in much the same way he did his ice attacks, even if he's already really good with them because he's already good with his ice powers and was losing regardless. The longer the fight goes on the worse it is for Deku, but Deku has shown the intelligence, desire and power to win as is. TriffTshngo posted:I dunno. I'm sure things will be great either way but it just seems like kind of an early spot for an already extremely strong character to essentially get a x2 power boost. Considering this chapter I don't really think it is. As this chapter showed Deku is starting to get a hold on just a tiny fraction of his powers, and yet he's already pushing Todoroki because he can only fight effectively using just his ice side for a short period before it begins to gently caress him up. An ice only dude could be written as extremely strong, but this chapter pointed out some weaknesses that limit him while also pushing Deku up quite a bit so that Todoroki needs to become stronger to keep up with him. Todoroki is extremely strong, but then, so are a lot of the cast, even if only in potential (gravity control, explosive sweat, make anything out of thin air) and he just needs to keep apace with them relative to the pacing - which we can use Deku's control as a metric for. Since the pace is picking up, he has to too. And presumably all those other characters will as well. TriffTshngo posted:He's essentially yelling at Todoroki to ignore his decade+ of abuse and emotional baggage. That's just as unreasonable as telling Midoriya to hurry up and get good at not exploding your arms every time you punch the air. To be fair, he's more yelling at him to move past his abuse than to ignore it. You can't dwell on those kinds of problems forever without it loving up your life, and if you want to succeed you basically have to start dealing with them rather than letting them control or define you. tsob fucked around with this message at 12:08 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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TriffTshngo posted:He's essentially yelling at Todoroki to ignore his decade+ of abuse and emotional baggage. That's just as unreasonable as telling Midoriya to hurry up and get good at not exploding your arms every time you punch the air. Just because he admits he doesn't understand Todoroki's circumstances doesn't make him not an rear end in a top hat for saying "hey get over it because I think that's lame." They're in the life-saving business. Just because you have a good explanation for why you're not giving your all, doesn't mean it's an acceptable excuse. "Oh sorry family, I could have beaten that villain, but my daddy beat me when I was a kid and that's why I held back and let him kill your kids" doesn't really fly. Any more than an EMT refusing to do CPR because he's OCD and can't stand having icky blood on him. There are no acceptable excuses other than "I physically am unable to perform my duty". Besides, people keep yelling at Midoriya to stop exploding his arms, and he's busting his rear end off trying to make it happen. He has the right attitude, Todoroki doesn't.
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TriffTshngo posted:Pulling the "everyone else is trying their hardest but you're holding back" card could've also been sent right back Midoriya's way because both he and Todoroki have technically been holding back their full power. There is no way you can claim Deku is holding back. Unless you expect him to make a point by turning Todoroki into a smear on the ground. He's going out of his way to get his point across. He's busting up his body something fierce while working with the very limits of his current abilities. Limits he's continuously trying to improve mind you. Todoroki is just refusing to use half of his abilities because of daddy issues, even though there are many MANY other ways of going about it.
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 Just caught up, and I honestly don't care who comes out on top of the tournament. I love all of these little shits and anyone who comes out as the victor of the festival will be well won. Unless it's that copycat kid, that dude can jump off a cliff. Level Slide fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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Apr 19, 2015 21:13
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tsob posted:
Todoroki was using his ice powers to stop Deku from blowing him out of the arena, remember? He won't be able to do that if he starts throwing fire around. Getting Todoroki to start using his fire powers might actually be a very smart move on Deku's part, though that's a bit too cynical to fit with his character.
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I like how at the beginning of the tournament everyone was worried it was gonna drag but it's actually provided some of the most interesting moments in the series to date.
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Bad Seafood posted:I like how at the beginning of the tournament everyone was worried it was gonna drag but it's actually provided some of the most interesting moments in the series to date. Honestly best tournament arc I've read outside of some of the dragonball stuff.
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Level Slide posted:Just caught up, and I honestly don't care who comes out on top of the tournament. I love all of these little shits and anyone who comes out as the victor of the festival will be well won. Unless it's that copycat kid, that dude can jump off a cliff. Copycat kid tries to copy Deku's power, blows his own arm off.
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I was sure Todoroki would end up being forced to use his fire powers to save someone, not to beat someone up harder.
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sharktamer posted:I was sure Todoroki would end up being forced to use his fire powers to save someone, not to beat someone up harder. He's saving himself 
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You know, I'm not sure if s'mores ever caught on at Yuuei, but I hope someone tries roasting marshmallows on Todoroki's flame arm. Alternatively, over Endeavor's everything. Also,
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I have this feeling Kouhei has no idea of the implication of the 4/20 thing here in the US and will probably be embarrassed to find out.
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Regardless of whether he meant it or not, somehow Bakugou's birthday being 4/20 just feels fitting.
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Fabricated posted:I have this feeling Kouhei has no idea of the implication of the 4/20 thing here in the US and will probably be embarrassed to find out. Which are those implications?
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papasyhotcakes posted:Which are those implications? It is a drug holiday and/or Hitler's birthday.
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papasyhotcakes posted:Which are those implications? I checked and of course there's a wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/420_%28cannabis_culture%29 Part of me thinks the idea of Kouhei sitting there confused as his twitter stream fills up with images of Bakugou smoking pot and edits of the "420 BLAZE IT human being" meme is hilarious.
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Well, weed would help some of these messed up kids calm down. Or set off some sort of psychotic breakdown after a bad trip, either way, blaze it.
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So this is pretty cool. From the One Piece fan-corner: Translation para 4chan: Reader: SBS -- STAR...meh whatever. Oda: What the hell? ...meh whatever, we'll just begin like this Now listen up everyone, look here (image) This was a reader submission into the Usopp Art Gallery back in volume 23. ...aaaannd this (image) Is the ongoing popular series on Jump called Boku no Hero Academia. See the names? THEY'RE THE SAME PERSON If we're talking about volume 23, then that's like 10 years ago. And the kid who was submitting fan art back then is now an accomplished manga artist. He's made it! And we're running serializations side-by-side in the same magazine! Man this is exciting! He mentioned this to me himself in the last end-of-the-year party, and I was like "You should've told me sooner, I would've rooted hard for you!" So anyway, I hope everyone will support BnHA and Horikoshi-sensei!
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Didn't Horikoshi get interviewed by Kishimoto too? All he needs is a shoutout from Kubo and he's got endorsements from the "big 3".
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 Even though Ochako probably wouldn't do that, it's still hilarious.
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Whoever is making those captures the art style really well. Also Uraraka would totally be blazin it on 4/20.
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Apr 20, 2015 22:36
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Apr 20, 2015 22:39
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Everyone in this manga owns incredibly hard.
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Apr 20, 2015 22:54
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According to a friend who can read it, the first one says: "They really get along, huh..." "(they don't do this in front of deku)"
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Super nifty.
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I guess that explains All Might's dramatic smoke.
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Level Slide posted:
This is awesome, does anybody know who's translating these? If found the source, but it's all in Japanese and I really, really want to know what pages like this one and this one are saying. Also his art really is spot on with the original: 
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Well now I kinda hope that UA has an end of year dance or something, seems like it could be comedy gold. Just think about anyone asking Bakugou out, or him asking anyone else out. Who would Mineta end up going with? And how many times would Yoyarozou have to turn him down? Would anyone remember to ask the invisible girl out? And would she be disappointed she can't get a picture of herself in a really pretty dress?
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I love this thing they have with Uraraka and Bakugou loving hating each other.
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tsob posted:Well now I kinda hope that UA has an end of year dance or something, seems like it could be comedy gold. Just think about anyone asking Bakugou out, or him asking anyone else out. Who would Mineta end up going with? And how many times would Yoyarozou have to turn him down? Would anyone remember to ask the invisible girl out? And would she be disappointed she can't get a picture of herself in a really pretty dress? That would actually be a good job for an invisible person. You could be the best clothes model ever! Screw Photoshop, we'll just have the dress worn by thin air!
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tsob posted:Well now I kinda hope that UA has an end of year dance or something, seems like it could be comedy gold. Just think about anyone asking Bakugou out, or him asking anyone else out. Who would Mineta end up going with? And how many times would Yoyarozou have to turn him down? Would anyone remember to ask the invisible girl out? And would she be disappointed she can't get a picture of herself in a really pretty dress? She puts on makeup and no one recognizes her. Not even the person who asked her out.
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