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pookel
Oct 27, 2011

Ultra Carp
The Winchesters' baby died of marasmus? Wikipedia says:

quote:

Marasmus is caused by a severe deficiency of nearly all nutrients, especially protein, carbohydrates, and lipids.

That's not actually disease, it's just starvation. I wonder if it was caused in this case by some other disease not recognized at the time, or if it was as simple as untreated failure to thrive. Either way, depressing.

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Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

pookel posted:

The Winchesters' baby died of marasmus? Wikipedia says:


That's not actually disease, it's just starvation. I wonder if it was caused in this case by some other disease not recognized at the time, or if it was as simple as untreated failure to thrive. Either way, depressing.

This confused me too, I was actually just googling to make sure I wasn't misremembering and would've posted something similar to this if you hadn't.

Irisi
Feb 18, 2009

pookel posted:

The Winchesters' baby died of marasmus? Wikipedia says:


That's not actually disease, it's just starvation. I wonder if it was caused in this case by some other disease not recognized at the time, or if it was as simple as untreated failure to thrive. Either way, depressing.

In a great deal of cases in the developing world currently it's caused by contaminated water. If the baby took in water laden with parasites or bacteria then its' poor wee body would have succumbed to infection and diarrhea, etc. Without antibiotics and intravenous fluids, a baby would waste away very quickly.

(Most awfully, the contaminated water could well have come from the way the baby was fed. Bottle feeding and artificial formulas was gaining popularity amongst the middle and upper classes in Victorian UK and America in the 1860s'. The bottle shapes and rubber stoppers meant they were impossible to clean properly, which led to infection, and the formula milk was often no more than flour and arrowroot powder. Babies quite often wasted away on it, given it had no fats or protein in it, not like cow or human milk. :( )

Khazar-khum
Oct 22, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion

Irisi posted:

In a great deal of cases in the developing world currently it's caused by contaminated water. If the baby took in water laden with parasites or bacteria then its' poor wee body would have succumbed to infection and diarrhea, etc. Without antibiotics and intravenous fluids, a baby would waste away very quickly.

(Most awfully, the contaminated water could well have come from the way the baby was fed. Bottle feeding and artificial formulas was gaining popularity amongst the middle and upper classes in Victorian UK and America in the 1860s'. The bottle shapes and rubber stoppers meant they were impossible to clean properly, which led to infection, and the formula milk was often no more than flour and arrowroot powder. Babies quite often wasted away on it, given it had no fats or protein in it, not like cow or human milk. :( )

Those horrible bottles are the stuff of nightmares themselves.

Here's a quick overview.

http://www.mandyhaberman.com/index.php?cID=11&cType=blog

quote:

In the late 1800’s ‘Banjo’ shaped infant feeders were introduced to the marketplace. The latter day nicknames of 'The killer' and the 'The murderer' were, however, far more apt as the ‘Banjo’ was impossible to clean and hygiene was a joke.

Why go to such a dangerous practice when there's regular breast milk around?

From http://knowledgenuts.com/2013/09/02/the-bottle-feeding-epidemic-and-killer-baby-formula/

quote:

Breastfeeding had a number of things working against it in the Victorian-era United States. Sigmund Freud’s theory held that infants suckling at their mothers’ teats were exhibiting incestuous desires. In response to both Freud’s theory and “evolution,” Victorian mothers substituted bottle-feeding for the breast.

Forward-thinking mothers believed bottle feeding to be the future of child rearing. They also assumed recently invented “scientific” baby formulas and “treated” cow’s milk represented a healthier alternative to simple breast milk. They were wrong. The cow’s milk from which most infant formulas were derived was typically unpasteurized. The milk that mothers fed their children was frequently spoiled and riddled with bacteria.

During the 1890s in Chicago, Illinois, one study found 15 “hand-fed” babies were dying for each breast-fed infant. The medical community responded with one of the most aggressive public health campaigns in history. In Minneapolis, for example, the Breast Feeding Investigation Bureau of the Department of Pediatrics of the University of Minnesota was formed to assist every new mother in the area with any lactation-related issues. Posters and literature touting the benefits of breastfeeding became de rigueur across American cities. While breastfeeding never reached the levels physicians hoped for, they were able to make enormous, corrective strides to reduce infant mortality rates in the US and spurred on a successful campaign for pasteurized cow’s milk.

benito
Sep 28, 2004

And I don't blab
any drab gab--
I chatter hep patter
There was the 2008 Chinese Milk Scandal in which baby formula was found to be adulterated with melamine, the same chemical that killed a bunch of cats and dogs from tainted pet food. But here's the one that has always terrified me:

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2008/09/22/2003423869

quote:

Thirteen babies died of malnutrition in 2004 and almost 200 were hospitalized in Anhui Province after drinking milk powder with no nutritional content.

A baby formula company was literally making formula with no nutritional content. And that's not a case of somebody not wearing a hair net or some bizarre cow disease, it's an entire company deciding to cut corners by making something that would vaguely look like milk when combined with water.

Sulla Faex
May 14, 2010

No man ever did me so much good, or enemy so much harm, but I repaid him with ENDLESS SHITPOSTING
Hey, don't be so quick to judge. A bunch of dead babies sounds like bad news at first but you haven't given a thought to the sheer profit margins involved. I'm sure the free market knows best.

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

benito posted:

There was the 2008 Chinese Milk Scandal in which baby formula was found to be adulterated with melamine, the same chemical that killed a bunch of cats and dogs from tainted pet food. But here's the one that has always terrified me:

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2008/09/22/2003423869


A baby formula company was literally making formula with no nutritional content. And that's not a case of somebody not wearing a hair net or some bizarre cow disease, it's an entire company deciding to cut corners by making something that would vaguely look like milk when combined with water.

After reading posts in this thread about overpopulation I look upon these men as heroes. :patriot:

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Chichevache posted:

After reading posts in this thread about overpopulation I look upon these men as heroes. :patriot:

:goonsay:

Chichevache
Feb 17, 2010

One of the funniest posters in GIP.

Just not intentionally.

Mate, if you think I'm serious you've been reading this thread too much. Go hug your children or play in the park with your dog or something.

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.

Chichevache posted:

Mate, if you think I'm serious you've been reading this thread too much. Go hug your children or play in the park with your dog or something.

:goonsay:

bean_shadow
Sep 27, 2005

If men had uteruses they'd be called duderuses.

lenoon posted:

Threads is all about my home town. Now that's depressing!

Will get on the effort post at some point this weekend.

The Day After is about MY town. Sort of. I live in Kansas City, not Lawrence, KS. I thought the movie was funny.

Mr. Gibbycrumbles
Aug 30, 2004

Do you think your paladin sword can defeat me?

En garde, I'll let you try my Wu-Tang style

benito posted:

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/editorials/archives/2008/09/22/2003423869

A baby formula company was literally making formula with no nutritional content. And that's not a case of somebody not wearing a hair net or some bizarre cow disease, it's an entire company deciding to cut corners by making something that would vaguely look like milk when combined with water.

Sounds like a Libertarian utopia!

DemonDarkhorse
Nov 5, 2011

It's probably not tobacco. You just need to start wiping front-to-back from now on.

A Spider Covets posted:

i like ghosts and demon possession related things. i dont actually believe in ghosts or possession but i love the idea and find it fun to pretend-believe. pls post a bunch of really cool stories about ghosts/demon posession and i will, in turn, post a funny animal gif for u. or a spooky gif, if the OP desires.

tia

Family in the late 80s begins to experience stereotypical poltergeist activity in their new home, but then the walls start leaking blood plasma and an investigator gets hanged in the attic.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread672735/pg1

The whole documentary, filled with cheesy effects, but genuinely pretty creepy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwSIczexst0

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
too bad it's not actually real

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


neither are ghosts lol

thank u for the scary stories!

Khazar-khum
Oct 22, 2008

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
2nd Battalion

DemonDarkhorse posted:

Family in the late 80s begins to experience stereotypical poltergeist activity in their new home, but then the walls start leaking blood plasma and an investigator gets hanged in the attic.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread672735/pg1

The whole documentary, filled with cheesy effects, but genuinely pretty creepy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwSIczexst0

Where IS the Ghost Story Thread, anyways?

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


Khazar-khum posted:

Where IS the Ghost Story Thread, anyways?

Not in GBS anymore, that's for sure.

Tiberius Thyben
Feb 7, 2013

Gone Phishing


Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:

Sounds like a Libertarian utopia!

Well, now that they know it killed their babies, they will know not to buy formula from them in the future. Really, they should have noticed sooner, if they were rational actors. The Free Market works :downs:.

RaceBannon
Apr 3, 2010

cptn_dr posted:

Not in GBS anymore, that's for sure.

But where can I read the Drain Lady again for the 20th time?

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

I for one want more stories about people's boring rear end nightmares or how they heard ~spooky~ noises in their house one time and it was totally a ghost.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

If anyone legitimately wants to find it, it's in PYF. I just bumped it with DemonDarkhorse's link because it was topical to that thread.

edit: I just stumbled upon this article. It seems legit but I'm not familiar with the site so take that with a grain of salt. Apparently some Polish fisherman recently caught the biggest and oldest catfish ever (12 ft long, 400lbs, and 100 years old). When they opened it up they found the remains of a Nazi SS officer inside of the fish who had died and been eaten by it in the early 1940's.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/remains-of-nazi-officer-discovered-inside-100-year-old-giant-catfish/

JibbaJabberwocky has a new favorite as of 15:15 on Apr 19, 2015

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

JibbaJabberwocky posted:

edit: I just stumbled upon this article. It seems legit but I'm not familiar with the site so take that with a grain of salt. Apparently some Polish fisherman recently caught the biggest and oldest catfish ever (12 ft long, 400lbs, and 100 years old). When they opened it up they found the remains of a Nazi SS officer inside of the fish who had died and been eaten by it in the early 1940's.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/remains-of-nazi-officer-discovered-inside-100-year-old-giant-catfish/
That's a joke site, ala Weekly World News.

stickyfngrdboy
Oct 21, 2010

IShallRiseAgain posted:

I for one want more stories about people's boring rear end nightmares or how they heard ~spooky~ noises in their house one time and it was totally a ghost.

http://m.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/latest-news/top-stories/video-footage-emerges-of-ghost-in-leeds-restaurant-1-7212995

It's from my local paper, it's definitely a ghost which is real.

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Alereon posted:

That's a joke site, ala Weekly World News.

Duly noted.

Chicken Butt
Oct 27, 2010

JibbaJabberwocky posted:

If anyone legitimately wants to find it, it's in PYF. I just bumped it with DemonDarkhorse's link because it was topical to that thread.

edit: I just stumbled upon this article. It seems legit but I'm not familiar with the site so take that with a grain of salt. Apparently some Polish fisherman recently caught the biggest and oldest catfish ever (12 ft long, 400lbs, and 100 years old). When they opened it up they found the remains of a Nazi SS officer inside of the fish who had died and been eaten by it in the early 1940's.

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/remains-of-nazi-officer-discovered-inside-100-year-old-giant-catfish/

Update: the indigestible Nazi guy came back to life and is currently rampaging through the Polish countryside. Apparently he mostly turns up behind people who have just gotten out of the shower and are wiping the fog off of their bathroom mirrors.

This is totally true, guys

JibbaJabberwocky
Aug 14, 2010

Chicken Butt posted:

Update: the indigestible Nazi guy came back to life and is currently rampaging through the Polish countryside. Apparently he mostly turns up behind people who have just gotten out of the shower and are wiping the fog off of their bathroom mirrors.

This is totally true, guys

If someone wrote this into a story and posted it in the Ghost Stories thread, I would totally read it.

Death Zebra
May 14, 2014

benito posted:

There was the 2008 Chinese Milk Scandal in which baby formula was found to be adulterated with melamine, the same chemical that killed a bunch of cats and dogs from tainted pet food.

I don't remember the specifics but I believe the perpetrators (or at least 2 people who had something to do with it) were sentenced to death. Fine by me.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

The guy who approved the fake dog food was also put to death after a trial that took something like two days.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008

THUNDERDOME LOSER
If Disposable Workers and Shutting out the Sun are right, Japan is a very empty, very sad nation :( I mean, I'd heard of 'being worked to death', and I'm aware that it can happen in the industrial hells of North Korea and China, but I'd never thought that office workers in a developed country could suffer the same thing.

CommissarMega has a new favorite as of 03:19 on Apr 21, 2015

Astrofig
Oct 26, 2009
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aokigahara

Also known as the Suicide Forest, Aokigahara is a dense forest with unique properties that make it almost prenaturally quiet and still. Combined with its remote location it's a very popular suicide destination, with people even coming from other countries to kill themselves there. The Japanese authorities have officially stopped releasing the numbers of bodies found there annually in an effort to curb the suicides. It apparently hasn't worked.

Linked to that is a list of popular places around the world to do oneself in. Bridges seem to be the most common, though Niagara Falls appears to win for sheer numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_sites

tnimark
Dec 22, 2009
Gus Van Sant is making a movie about a man who goes to that forest to commit suicide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_of_Trees_%28film%29

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Gangstalking is real and the Stasi did it to thousands of people. :nsa: is probably doing it to you right now!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zersetzung

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Astrofig posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aokigahara

Also known as the Suicide Forest, Aokigahara is a dense forest with unique properties that make it almost prenaturally quiet and still. Combined with its remote location it's a very popular suicide destination, with people even coming from other countries to kill themselves there. The Japanese authorities have officially stopped releasing the numbers of bodies found there annually in an effort to curb the suicides. It apparently hasn't worked.

Linked to that is a list of popular places around the world to do oneself in. Bridges seem to be the most common, though Niagara Falls appears to win for sheer numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_sites

When I was at Cornell, one of the big debates was whether or not to install nets under the bridges because some people thought that nets would give the idea of suicide to people who wouldn't have otherwise considered it, like the suicide forest statistics. I'm glad to see they just stuck security guards there to make it awkward for everyone.

Anoia
Dec 31, 2003

"Sooner or later, every curse is a prayer."

Astrofig posted:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aokigahara

Also known as the Suicide Forest, Aokigahara is a dense forest with unique properties that make it almost prenaturally quiet and still. Combined with its remote location it's a very popular suicide destination, with people even coming from other countries to kill themselves there. The Japanese authorities have officially stopped releasing the numbers of bodies found there annually in an effort to curb the suicides. It apparently hasn't worked.

Linked to that is a list of popular places around the world to do oneself in. Bridges seem to be the most common, though Niagara Falls appears to win for sheer numbers.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_suicide_sites

Vice (yeah, I know) did a piece on that forest where they followed a park ranger who, in addition to all the usual ranger duties, frequently ends up either discovering bodies or trying to talk people out of suicide. I can't imagine dealing with that every day, but he's got an amazingly good attitude about it all.

https://youtu.be/4FDSdg09df8

Death Zebra
May 14, 2014

Jack Gladney posted:

When I was at Cornell, one of the big debates was whether or not to install nets under the bridges because some people thought that nets would give the idea of suicide to people who wouldn't have otherwise considered it, like the suicide forest statistics. I'm glad to see they just stuck security guards there to make it awkward for everyone.

There was a place in China where an employer installed nets between buildings..........in response to complaints about working conditions being so poor that people were committing suicide.

Gibfender
Apr 15, 2007

Electricity In Our Homes

Death Zebra posted:

There was a place in China where an employer installed nets between buildings..........in response to complaints about working conditions being so poor that people were committing suicide.

That was Foxconn http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foxconn_suicides

Inevitable
Jul 27, 2007

by Ralp

Home of the iPad! Don't worry though. Steve Jobs told them to knock it off.

A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009



gross

Polaron
Oct 13, 2010

The Oncoming Storm

Jack Gladney posted:

When I was at Cornell, one of the big debates was whether or not to install nets under the bridges because some people thought that nets would give the idea of suicide to people who wouldn't have otherwise considered it, like the suicide forest statistics. I'm glad to see they just stuck security guards there to make it awkward for everyone.

Nets/fences on bridges are proven to cut down on suicides. It's why San Francisco's refusal to put any on Golden Gate, a popular suicide hotspot, for reasons of aesthetics was so amazingly callous.

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A Spider Covets
May 4, 2009


Polaron posted:

Nets/fences on bridges are proven to cut down on suicides. It's why San Francisco's refusal to put any on Golden Gate, a popular suicide hotspot, for reasons of aesthetics was so amazingly callous.

there's a doc on Netflix iirc about the golden bridge, the suicides, and the lead architect, i wish i could remember the name because i didn't know about any of this before watching it. it was really good but definitely sad, would be surprised if it hadn't already been posted itt

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