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Nonsense posted:I remember liking the cheese enchiladas served, so very fake-cheesy! 
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They were glorious, and then they changed the style of enchiladas served in middle & high school to some chicken-tomato crap. I hope the elementary kids are still enjoying those cheese enchiladas.
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Apr 19, 2015 19:42
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I actually have a fondness for mashed potatoes with the consistency of glue to this day. My school's chicken fried steak and tacos weren't so bad, either.
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Apr 19, 2015 19:45
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Quote of the day, "First of all, it scared me to no end. It could happen naturally by some solar burst, or it could happen by some threat of terror. Both of which are possible. We have to fortify the grid, obviously." ~ Jeb Bush, on the threat of an electromagnetic pulse to the United States.
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Apr 19, 2015 20:08
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I almost never had school lunch. I always had bagged food. Like a ham sandwich, chips, and pop.
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Apr 19, 2015 20:16
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "First of all, it scared me to no end. It could happen naturally by some solar burst, or it could happen by some threat of terror. Both of which are possible. We have to fortify the grid, obviously." ~ Jeb Bush, on the threat of an electromagnetic pulse to the United States. A shockingly reasonable statement from Jeb. Anything that improves the power grid is great.
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Apr 19, 2015 20:18
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Relentlessboredomm posted:A shockingly reasonable statement from Jeb. Anything that improves the power grid is great. Watch out, statements like this is how the whole "both parties are just owned by the same corporate interests" start! Can't both support something that's good for America and good for big companies without becoming a Republican you see.
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Apr 19, 2015 20:21
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Relentlessboredomm posted:A shockingly reasonable statement from Jeb. Anything that improves the power grid is great. By fortify I sincerely hope he means re-imagine, upgrade, or invest into. Not that our major plants and sub-stations suddenly see a large increase in DHS involvement.
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Apr 19, 2015 20:26
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Boon posted:By fortify I sincerely hope he means re-imagine, upgrade, or invest into. He'll just privatize the power grid. The free market will clearly know the best way to keep it safe.
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Apr 19, 2015 20:27
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Luigi Thirty posted:We did have things like chicken wraps but they were chicken fingers stuck inside a flaccid tortilla. For $1.75 you could get a basket of French fries. For $3 you could get a Papa John's pan pizza. We got Coke machines but they were always broken. My middle school literally sold little plastic tubs full of cookie dough in the cafeteria
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Apr 19, 2015 20:29
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, "First of all, it scared me to no end. It could happen naturally by some solar burst, or it could happen by some threat of terror. Both of which are possible. We have to fortify the grid, obviously." ~ Jeb Bush, on the threat of an electromagnetic pulse to the United States. Did he explain how a threat of terror would generate an EMP strong enough to disable the power grid?
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Apr 19, 2015 20:32
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VitalSigns posted:Hmm I see you are unfamiliar with the construction of the typical Ross Douthat column. He starts to says some stuff that seems ok but then serves hard into crazyland and makes absurd conclusion after absurd conclusion.
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Apr 19, 2015 20:33
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JT Jag posted:No, no, no. Aren't large parts of the power grid already overseen by private entities?
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Apr 19, 2015 20:34
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Stultus Maximus posted:Did he explain how a threat of terror would generate an EMP strong enough to disable the power grid? No, but this helpful (and real) ad from the 2012 election provides some clues. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5tG3fC2XSU
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Apr 19, 2015 20:37
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Lotka Volterra posted:Aren't large parts of the power grid already overseen by private entities? I'm sure someone's angry about the existence of the Tennessee Valley Authority.
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Apr 19, 2015 20:39
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So what constitutes the "crucial" area of impact in the GOP landscape? Can't be the Northeast nor Southwest. Come to think of it, an EMP in the Northeast sounds more like a promise than a threat.
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Apr 19, 2015 20:43
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Luigi Thirty posted:I'm sure someone's angry about the existence of the Tennessee Valley Authority. It's socialism (!), so I can see why
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Apr 19, 2015 20:47
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Good Citizen posted:My middle school literally sold little plastic tubs full of cookie dough in the cafeteria dude that owns, cookie dough rules
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Apr 19, 2015 20:49
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Lotka Volterra posted:It's socialism (!), so I can see why Socialist bureaucrats trying to build electric plants and teach my farmers crop rotation, I've farmed this land since 1830 I know what I'm doing 
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Apr 19, 2015 20:53
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Pervis posted:Isn't the Air Force heavily evangelical (partly because of Colorado Springs being the location of the Academy)? Yep, Huckabee is full of poo poo as usual.
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Apr 19, 2015 21:08
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forbidden lesbian posted:dude that owns, cookie dough rules Yeah I totally bought some and it did rule
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Apr 19, 2015 21:28
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Stultus Maximus posted:Did he explain how a threat of terror would generate an EMP strong enough to disable the power grid? The general rule of thumb with scares of large-scale EMP attack is that you should be more concerned with the nuclear detonations preceding the EMP. 
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Apr 19, 2015 22:54
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The only way to create a large EMP is still detonating a nuke in the outer atmosphere right?
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Apr 19, 2015 22:58
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Raskolnikov38 posted:The only way to create a large EMP is still detonating a nuke in the outer atmosphere right? It's the only way to create one that will affect an area larger than the area affected by the pressure and heat blasts.
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Apr 19, 2015 23:01
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Stultus Maximus posted:Did he explain how a threat of terror would generate an EMP strong enough to disable the power grid? Obviously, ISIS would somehow manage to acquire not only a working nuclear warhead of sufficient yield, but also a multi-stage ICBM (affecting the entire continental US requires detonating the weapon at an altitude of about 300 miles) as well as the required guidance and launch systems without anyone noticing that they'd built a missile silo or launch complex in the middle of the desert somewhere. As to why a terrorist group that got a nuclear weapon would go through all the trouble of assembling a working ICBM instead of just putting it in a shipping container and flattening a costal city, I have no idea. azflyboy fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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Apr 19, 2015 23:02
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Outside of Bond villains, is there anyone who has talked about using an EMP in real life? It seems like a lot of work for very little gain.
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Apr 19, 2015 23:02
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Samurai Sanders posted:Outside of Bond villains, is there anyone who has talked about using an EMP in real life? gently caress no. Everyone knows that launching an ICBM anywhere near the United States would be the end of, like, everything
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Apr 19, 2015 23:07
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I'd imagine Jeb Bush watched Oceans Eleven before he made that quote and thought if you could put an EMP in a truck and use it to rob a casino, you could also use it to terror a nation.
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Apr 19, 2015 23:11
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Samurai Sanders posted:Outside of Bond villains, is there anyone who has talked about using an EMP in real life? It seems like a lot of work for very little gain. The united state military. They've been trying to develop an EMP bomb for a while now.
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Apr 19, 2015 23:13
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Fried Chicken posted:The united state military. They've been trying to develop an EMP bomb for a while now.
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Apr 19, 2015 23:15
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Samurai Sanders posted:You mean one that would just disable electronics and not be a freaking nuclear bomb as well? Yes, and the US military already has specialized bombs for taking out power grids like graphite bombs, which knocked out most of Iraq's power grid during the Gulf War. There is active research in producing EMP weapons that don't involve nuclear explosions, but if there's been any results no one's telling. EMP attacks without nukes are a popular wank for Tom Clancy wannabes and the like, including political fearmongers, but aren't actually a thing. As it is, parts of the US power grid aren't vulnerable to EMP to begin with, courtesy of hardening meant to keep them intact in the event of nuclear war.
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Apr 19, 2015 23:28
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Cythereal posted:Yes, and the US military already has specialized bombs for taking out power grids like graphite bombs, which knocked out most of Iraq's power grid during the Gulf War. There is active research in producing EMP weapons that don't involve nuclear explosions, but if there's been any results no one's telling. Also if you just take a look at the amount of electromagnetic radiation required to take out large circuits in a citywide radius that's a LOT of energy to generate at once. You really do need something on the level of a nuclear explosion. Inverse square laws are a bitch.
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Ralepozozaxe posted:"I would have been elected if it hadn't been for those meddling kids!"   Joementum posted:“Tom Cotton exactly right.” ~ John Bolton. Haha is this a direct quote? Like, someone didn't accidentally drop the "is" from the transcript? John Bolton literally talk like Hulk, now? Freakazoid_ posted:If schools no longer serve the iconic cheese zombie (cooked on site of course) I am going to have to write my congressmen. I've never even heard of this before, so you better start writin'.
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Deep Hurting posted:Haha is this a direct quote? Like, someone didn't accidentally drop the "is" from the transcript? John Bolton literally talk like Hulk, now? No, sadly, I hosed up the transcription. The article merely quotes Bolton as saying "exactly right" in response to a question about Cotton's assertion and I should have written it as "[Tom Cotton is] exactly right".
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Apr 19, 2015 23:36
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Stultus Maximus posted:Also if you just take a look at the amount of electromagnetic radiation required to take out large circuits in a citywide radius that's a LOT of energy to generate at once. You really do need something on the level of a nuclear explosion. Inverse square laws are a bitch. In short for anyone worrying: don't lose sleep over the possibility of an EMP attack. The only scenario in which large-scale EMP is something to worry about is nuclear war.
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Apr 19, 2015 23:40
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PhilippAchtel posted:Much as I agree with the sentiment, this is unnecessary.
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Apr 19, 2015 23:57
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Business Gorillas posted:I like how his use of the word cocksucker apparently trumped your anger for the fact that republicans are trying their best to start a war with Iran. The republicans aren't here to yell at though.
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Apr 19, 2015 23:58
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Business Gorillas posted:I like how his use of the word cocksucker apparently trumped your anger for the fact that republicans are trying their best to start a war with Iran. The only anger I have is that Obama has created an unneccessary divide between Israel and America on the issue due to his personal dislike of Netanyahu. Bush, he's a man who's taking leadership on Iran and refusing to kowtow to those who chant "Death to America" each week.
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Apr 19, 2015 23:59
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My Imaginary GF posted:The only anger I have is that Obama has created an unneccessary divide between Israel and America on the issue due to his personal dislike of Netanyahu. Saying "Death to X!" is akin to saying "gently caress X!" here in America. So if you got cut off in the Middle East you would say "Death to traffic!", but you wouldn't actually mean you literally intended to murder an abstract concept any more than saying "gently caress McDonald's!" because they forgot your dipping sauce for your McNuggets meant you actually wanted to have sex with the Golden Arches.
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Business Gorillas posted:I like how his use of the word cocksucker apparently trumped your anger for the fact that republicans are trying their best to start a war with Iran. Did you like that? I'm happy for you. Sadly, there is no trumping going on here. I'm fully capable of both thinking pushing for war with Iran is wrong and thinking that using homophobic language to criticize them is inappropriate. Hope that helps.
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