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Aliquid posted:There are really too many people scrambling for Gen-X votes. There's much less competition for boomers in the GOP primary and I'm confused by it. Boomers are now olds and everyone reflexively panders to olds to the point where you don't see it
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Aliquid posted:There are really too many people scrambling for Gen-X votes. There's much less competition for boomers in the GOP primary and I'm confused by it. I don't think bringing up you ran Gateway is a great way to reach the Gen X cohort.
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Ted Cruz spoke at their convocation Jeb Bush is now going to be Liberty Universities Commencement speaker http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/jeb-bush-speak-graduation-liberty-university-116999.html quote:Liberty President Jerry Falwell Jr. said in a statement. “Throughout his years of public service, Gov. Bush has been a champion for excellence in education and so many other issues of vital importance to our university community.” Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 21:53 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Ted Cruz spoke at their convocation Hopefully it's a ton of rand paul 2016 t shirts at that event too
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Nintendo Kid posted:I don't think bringing up you ran Gateway is a great way to reach the Gen X cohort. I don't think we can really blame him for the Gateway Destination HTPC. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4WTJGBAfGA
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Nice knowing you, Marco! It was fun while it lasted.
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Speaking of which I saw Ana Navarro on ABC this morning talking about how there were candidates backing immigration reform; of course she didn't mention how Rubio was forced to drop it after he ran into screeching Tea Party vitriol.
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Apr 19, 2015 22:34
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So what exactly is his success story in Michigan? They finally got back to only losing enough people moving out of state looking for work to match the rate of natural increase?
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comes along bort posted:So what exactly is his success story in Michigan? They finally got back to only losing enough people moving out of state looking for work to match the rate of natural increase? "Michigan has managed to resist turning into Mad Max with snow despite my best efforts" - Rick Snyder, 2015
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Apr 20, 2015 00:28
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I don't understand what "anti-genetics credibility" means in this context. Or any context.
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Solid Poopsnake posted:I don't understand what "anti-genetics credibility" means in this context. Or any context. Took me a minute. He means "it grants credibility to the anti-genetic-science belief that sexual orientation is comparable in its predestination to race".
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Apr 20, 2015 01:08
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This makes no sense. It's like a right wing markov chain
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Apr 20, 2015 02:39
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ZeeToo posted:Took me a minute. He means "it grants credibility to the anti-genetic-science belief that sexual orientation is comparable in its predestination to race". Yeah, no, it still doesn't make any sense as far as I can see.. but that's okay. I don't need it to make sense. I think it's the addition of the "anti" that makes it completely nonsensical.
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 What the gently caress will he run on? All he has done to Michigan is run it into the ground. Oh, and Obamacare. He's a Republican governor who allowed the Medicaid expansion.
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Solid Poopsnake posted:I don't understand what "anti-genetics credibility" means in this context. Or any context. In the context of the quote I think he's saying that it makes anti-discrimination arguments stronger because it draws a clear comparison between race and sexuality. In other words, if being gay is genetic then it follows that it should be a protected class like race is, and all the "religious freedom" acts lose their teeth.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:
So he's basically a richer Scott Walker who doesn't look like a mouth breather, with one bit of "bipartisan" cred.
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IIRC he promised not to implement RTW in the 2010 election and got endorsed by the Teamsters, but after the 2012 election the Kochs demanded he do it and he caved.
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I think he's claiming that Rubio's comments are making race comparable to sexuality, in that it's something you are born with.
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The X-man cometh posted:So he's basically a richer Scott Walker who doesn't look like a mouth breather, with one bit of "bipartisan" cred. If Kasich runs, he'll be able to much more eloquently his decision to accept the expansion, negating that advantage. That's the only difference I see between Snyder and Walker. Maybe the ability to self-fund a little longer.
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I feel like the Detroit bankruptcy thing would be a real difference. I am just not sure if it comes out as a positive or a negative. In reality its unlikely that either will run so the world will never know.
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Axetrain posted:I think he's claiming that Rubio's comments are making race comparable to sexuality, in that it's something you are born with. Yes I think that's exactly his message, but where does the "anti genetics" thing make any sense? On second thought, never mind...
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The first to fall, sadly if he said this about 1/2 through the primary if it wasn't decided he'd have a chance.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:IIRC he promised not to implement RTW in the 2010 election and got endorsed by the Teamsters, but after the 2012 election the Kochs demanded he do it and he caved. Yep, lied about that, lied about Detroit never going into bankruptcy or getting an emergency manager. You never hear about Richard Baird anymore but in his first term as CEO of Michigan this guy was on a secret payroll, yet had an office at the capital next door to Snyder's. Snyder was telling the press Detroit wasn't getting an EM while Baird was busy vetting Kevyn Orr at the same time. Nintendo Kid posted:"Michigan has managed to resist turning into Mad Max with snow despite my best efforts" The correct movie analogy for Rick Snyder is Robocop. 
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Zwabu posted:Yes I think that's exactly his message, but where does the "anti genetics" thing make any sense? Could he maybe be misspelling "epigenetic"? Like I'm not sure how that would help his case but they sound kinda similar, maybe it was just a word he heard...
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I think what he would say if he had the smarts is "the view that you can be born gay is contrary to genetic science."
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SedanChair posted:I think what he would say if he had the smarts is "the view that you can be born gay is contrary to genetic science." Maybe its an epigenetic kinda thing? One part nature, and one part nurture, enough so that you could engineer your children to be born straight? Like, I'd be all for healthcare coverage being made to cover genetic engineering of sexuality in fetuses
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Zwabu posted:Yes I think that's exactly his message, but where does the "anti genetics" thing make any sense? There's a pretty strong folk-science belief in the evangelical community that says, "you can't be born gay, because that means it's genetic, which means it's inherited, gay people can't have children, and any inherited trait that stops people from having their own kids would die off in a single generation. Therefore, being gay must be a choice and anyone who says they were 'born this way' is lying."
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Fear and Loathing in the Granite Statequote:It's going to be a shitshow
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My Imaginary GF posted:Maybe its an epigenetic kinda thing? One part nature, and one part nurture, enough so that you could engineer your children to be born straight? Like, I'd be all for healthcare coverage being made to cover genetic engineering of sexuality in fetuses I think Proverbs 13:24 is all the engineering he is thinking about.
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Space Gopher posted:There's a pretty strong folk-science belief in the evangelical community that says, "you can't be born gay, because that means it's genetic, which means it's inherited, gay people can't have children, and any inherited trait that stops people from having their own kids would die off in a single generation. Therefore, being gay must be a choice and anyone who says they were 'born this way' is lying." They aren't wrong.
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Of course they are wrong. Genetics isn't everything. There are oodles of hormones in the womb for instance that may affect things like sexual orientation.
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Meg From Family Guy posted:They aren't wrong. They are wrong, unless you also don't believe in red hair.
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Meg From Family Guy posted:They aren't wrong. Sickle-cell anemia is a horrible condition that kills most people who have it. Funny thing is, if the gene that codes for sickle cell anemia is present on only one chromosome and not two, it confers an immunity to malaria. Thus, you have a situation where people will be born with a fatal genetic conditon that nonetheless provides a net benefit to the larger population. Also closeted people have been having kids for hundreds if not thousands of years, so if you want to lay the blame somewhere, lay it on people who force gay people to marry the opposite gender and reproduce.
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Of course they are wrong. Genetics isn't everything. There are oodles of hormones in the womb for instance that may affect things like sexual orientation.
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mooyashi posted:Purple and Yellow is a bold color combination I am down for these United Saints of America.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:The portrait needs to be him Make your own! The best kind of crime there is! http://thebeautifulist.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/cartoon-on-bill5.jpg
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Space Gopher posted:There's a pretty strong folk-science belief in the evangelical community that says, "you can't be born gay, because that means it's genetic, which means it's inherited, gay people can't have children, and any inherited trait that stops people from having their own kids would die off in a single generation. Therefore, being gay must be a choice and anyone who says they were 'born this way' is lying." Yeah, okay, THIS I get. But the choice of words implied that there is actual hard data, conclusive scientific proof of this position when I'm pretty sure what data there is supports the opposite conclusion (such as twin studies showing highly increased probability of twins both being gay even when raised in different environments etc.), rather than the "folk science" idea that it's self evident just because. I remember reading a book by the biologist E.O. Wilson that had an opposite theory of this in it. If the genes that result in homosexuality are also associated with other traits leading to creativity, achievement etc. that lead to relatively high social standing among those carrying them, like being a religious shaman or an executive producer of a movie company, then a reproductive advantage would fall on their family and close relatives, thus resulting in increased evolutionary fitness for those genes. It's plausible in the context of societies, just like how the ability to form and use language should confer a massive evolutionary fitness advantage in the context of a society of organisms, but wouldn't be of obvious benefit when considering a single (primitive, hunting) creature.
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