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paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Cake Attack posted:

do they even really know?

i mean it's not like they have a roster of every rebel, he could easily have just joined as random young man from village


That's even worse.

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BlazeEmblem
Jun 8, 2013

Uh oh. Do I use Ariadne thread or Goho-M?

Keep in mind that although the game makes it look like it was just the next day, the months don't change until you clear the story mission for that month. It could have been a few weeks between the fight and his enrollment.

Edit: For the record, the rest of the class knows, so the administration likely knows about his rebel past as well.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Did you guys forget we currently have a cavegirl, a singer, and a healer that doesn't know how to heal

At least Sigrid knows how to fight

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
I want to know if there is a story reason the cavegirl is an engineer of all things.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Tae posted:

Did you guys forget we currently have a cavegirl, a singer, and a healer that doesn't know how to heal

At least Sigrid knows how to fight

yeah, fight the government. like I said, they must be really desperate.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


paragon1 posted:

I know who he is gently caress face, I can read.

I'm wondering why they're not, you know, shooting him? Like you'd normally do? Instead of enrolling him in your "prestigious military academy"?

Easy friend, no need to get upset about anime games.

If I had to magic up an explanation, he probably got a recommended by Reiner, which seems like above and beyond the requirements needed to get into Lanseal. He shows willingess to fight for Gallia, and it's not like he has I WAS A REBEL written on his forehead. One of the problems of civil war is that enemies are not easy to identify. Why does nobody else in class G complain about an ex-Rebel joining them? Dunno, guess they don't give a poo poo.
Or maybe they think his knowledge of rebel tactics would help them, but since he was a rebel, into class G he went.

gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011
Hey hunters got to prep traps for killing enemies vietcong style. Plus survivalist mentality means she has taught herself to treat injuries.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Spoilers for Vicky, one of her Potentials actively decreases the amount she can heal.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

SSNeoman posted:

Easy friend, no need to get upset about anime games.

If I had to magic up an explanation, he probably got a recommended by Reiner, which seems like above and beyond the requirements needed to get into Lanseal. He shows willingess to fight for Gallia, and it's not like he has I WAS A REBEL written on his forehead. One of the problems of civil war is that enemies are not easy to identify. Why does nobody else in class G complain about an ex-Rebel joining them? Dunno, guess they don't give a poo poo.
Or maybe they think his knowledge of rebel tactics would help them, but since he was a rebel, into class G he went.

I don't need you to magic up an explanation, I already provided one in the post you responded to i.e. they are really desperate (and this game's writing is really dumb). Please try to read what people are actually posting instead of assuming they can't comprehend updates.

paragon1
Nov 22, 2010

FULL COMMUNISM NOW

Tae posted:

Spoilers for Vicky, one of her Potentials actively decreases the amount she can heal.

It's like if they made a lancer whose shots have a chance of buffing the enemy tank instead of doing damage.

thetruegentleman
Feb 5, 2011

You call that potato a Trump avatar?

THIS is a Trump Avatar!

Tae posted:

Spoilers for Vicky, one of her Potentials actively decreases the amount she can heal.

Look on the bright side, at least she's really good at getting in the face of the enemy, so she can then debuff them. I'm sure that'll prove super useful in the future!

Edit:
Really good for an engineer...who you aren't forced to use...and wears bandages.

thetruegentleman fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Apr 20, 2015

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Vicky is still way, way better than Magari because if you haven't noticed, sometimes Potentials after classmate missions replace a bad one.

Magari will too, except it replaces the one that lowers evasion instead of the one that stops her turn if seen by more than 1 enemy.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011


And I'm guessing both are inferior to Cosette, since she's one of the protagonists.

VV Holy poo poo VC2 can you do nothing right? :psyduck:
...d-does our mandatory tank pilot get some awful PP like that?

Seraphic Neoman fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Apr 20, 2015

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Oh no, Cosette actually becomes one of the worst characters as the game progresses because she will gain a Potential that makes her lose a turn if a single bullet hits her.

thetruegentleman
Feb 5, 2011

You call that potato a Trump avatar?

THIS is a Trump Avatar!

Tae posted:

Vicky is still way, way better than Magari because if you haven't noticed, sometimes Potentials after classmate missions replace a bad one.

Magari will too, except it replaces the one that lowers evasion instead of the one that stops her turn if seen by more than 1 enemy.

Hah! Well, you wouldn't want those OP Engineers to be able to just storm the enemy base and kill everything with their pistols, right? Poor Magari; I guess someone on the developer team hates Darcsen's as much as any Imperial; kind of funny how she justifies Helmut's casual racism.

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Tae posted:

Oh no, Cosette actually becomes one of the worst characters as the game progresses because she will gain a Potential that makes her lose a turn if a single bullet hits her.

The gently caress? Does she somehow develop hemophilia later on? :psyduck:

weso12
Nov 19, 2014

Lurker, Sims 3 LPer, Bored College Student

Tae posted:

Oh no, Cosette actually becomes one of the worst characters as the game progresses because she will gain a Potential that makes her lose a turn if a single bullet hits her.

Doesn't she later replace that potentional with one that lets her move again after another plot point.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.
Yeah, the game tells a little character arc through the potentials of the main characters. The generics just get the one mission though.

Xander77
Apr 6, 2009

Fuck it then. For another pit sandwich and some 'tater salad, I'll post a few more.



Tae posted:

Oh no, Cosette actually becomes one of the worst characters as the game progresses because she will gain a Potential that makes her lose a turn if a single bullet hits her.
Huh. So someone sat down, read the complaints about the main female character being more than enough to solo through VC1, and came up with a brilliant solution.

Seraphic Neoman
Jul 19, 2011



This was the weirdest one yet dude :stare:

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


Time to officially meat Sigrid. You know, now that he's decided to stop killing us.



No problem, Reiner. So, what's up?

This's my buddy, Sigrid. I wanted to introduce you.

Field scout Sigrid Eissel...Ex-rebel. I know I don't have any right to ask to be friends, but I--

Don't even start with that. If you're Reiner's boy, you're my friend too.

But, Avan, I--

This academy isn't easy to set into, especially in your case. You must've gone through a lot to get here. That earns you my trust.

This academy has proven many times that they let anyone in, Avan.

Avan...I hope we'll be good friends.

Count on it, man!

Add him to the pile of the other half-dozen Scouts that have classmate missions left. Speaking of which....:sigh:

[]Lotte Quest 2[/b]



So, what's the deal with this short thing?

Rumor has it the ghost appears after classes, when everyone's gone. Report after report has come in of a floating figure in an empty gym.

Huh. But aren't ghosts supposed to come out at night? It's like four o'clock. Do you really expect to see anything now?

Dude, are you crazy? Ghosts and stuffed peppers are my biggest nemeses!

If I came here at night, I'd be too busy freaking out to report, dude!

I'm still very annoyed at Lotte from the Erik quest. This is not helping.

That's totally why you brought me along, isn't it?

Look, let's just so in! Quietly, now! Quiet...



*shadow figure crawls across the edges of the screen*

Waugh!

F-Floating! There's really something floating there!

Hey, quit shoving!



Eaaaaaaagh!

Wait a second, that sounds like....




S-Sir?! What's the drill sergeant doing in the gym?

What, are you blind? I'm training.

Alone, in here?

This gym's got equipment we don't have out on the drill grounds. I train here alone after you maggots clear out because I like it quiet.

But we saw someone up... Sir, can you levitate?

Haw? That a joke? I was just working my upper body by climbing rope.



*the two go outside*



So that's five of seven down with no hits, huh? You really think the last two stand any chance?

S-Sure they do. The next one's sure to be real! It's just some take a bit of prep before the investigation, is all. We'll tackle that one another day, dude.

Meanwhile, I've got film to develop back at the dorm. Later, chief! *runs*

I think I get why Zeri says all her stories are gossip.

Even Avan is tired of this.



So we're finally doing key missions again for the-...why the gently caress are we doing Arlem again?! This is May, use mountain or forest missions goddamnit.



Also, box finding missions are poo poo.

Noel Quest 2



*at a distance*

I apologize for taking up your time like this. Thank you for coming.

No problem at all. So, what can I do for you?

Brixy and Noel? I wonder what they're doing out here? I'd better hide...



What?!

He mentioned you've been missing, and that he has been searching for you. He'll be coming by campus in the next few days to collect you. I informed him that the academy won't excuse you without your consent.

But surely you realize the sway your father holds in the political sphere.

I... I don't want to leave. I like it here.

Very well. I shall try as well as I'm able to keep you here.

...I understand. Thank you for your help.

*Hubert leaves*

Hey, Noel.



Sorry, I didn't mean to. I did hear, though. Are you really leaving?

...Have you ever heard of the Willoch Cartel?

I think so. They're the super rich group that owns all those companies?



Seriously? I wouldn't have pegged you for a princess.

Well, unfortunately my father the king doesn't much fancy my dream.

He's all, "There's no call for you to risk your neck in combat! Your job is to marry a boy from a good family and carry on the cartel!"

Dad sounds like a jerk.

Totally unfair, right? He hasn't even asked me WHY I want to do this.

It made me mad, so I up and left. Ha ha! Can you believe that?

Wow, man. That's pretty intense. So, you're staying, right?

I want to, but my dad's the sort of guy who always sets his way by any means. Regardless of how it ends, I should at least be ready for a fight.

Well, good luck to you.

Drama, but at least it's actual issues instead of a ghost....

Alexis Quest 2



It's solid. Practical, and with no wasted effort. Thank you for sharing it.

So, I was wondering...Those are armored tech weapons stacked against the wall there, right?

Yes, though the blades are dulled for practice. What do you say to a little sparring, as long as we're here?

Me against you? Sure, I'm up for it!

Heh, very good.



Too shallow!

Waugh?! Whu-whoa, ahh...!

Avan, watch out!

*both fall down*



Owww. Sorry, man. I lost my balance there, but I'm okay now. Just...Just a second... Huh?

That's good. Ready to begin again?

Um...Alexis?

Whatever it is, can we talk about it once you're off me? You're heavy.

I'm feeling something here, and it... Is there something I should know?

Is the feel of a woman's chest really so foreign to you?

A wo-woman?!



Aren't you a bit slow to notice? And there's no cause for surprise.

No cause for--? Of course it's a surprise! Anybody would be surprised here!

So I'm a woman. I don't see how this presents a problem in our sparring.

It's... not a problem or anything. I just... A guy needs to prepare!

Not you too, Avan?

Huh?

I had hoped you wouldn't be the type to judge a person by their gender.

Hey. I didn't mean... Alexis, wait!



*Alexis leaves*

drat it. What was I supposed to say there?

Ehhhhhhhh you could've stopped patting her chest like 4 times during that cutscene for one thing.

Meet Class G: Sigrid


24

Dare Devil - Raw instincts awaken when surrounded, raising attack power against armored targets and firing accuracy.
Tech Killer- Confidence that they can best any armored tech raises the chance of inflicting status ailments when attacking.
Darcsen Hater - Become uncomfortable when a Darcsen is nearby, lowering defense.

For whatever reason, Sigrid is specced to be an Armor Tech killer. As a Scout. I mean, I guess change him into a Sniper for his bonuses to matter as a specialist?

Also, he's a racist. That's why he joined the rebels.

Ratoslov
Feb 15, 2012

Now prepare yourselves! You're the guests of honor at the Greatest Kung Fu Cannibal BBQ Ever!

Yes, Alexis is a woman. No, nothing interesting is done with this.

weso12
Nov 19, 2014

Lurker, Sims 3 LPer, Bored College Student
Strange question for the purpose of other people's potentials does Alexis count as a male or female?

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.
Male.

Thundersword238
Oct 15, 2012

Yay, we finally got to the thing with Alexis! Now I can say that Alexis is the best character in the game. Alexis is the destoyer of all your poo poo and tanked everything for me when I played this game. Also having looked through the thread, wow is she better than literally every other woman in the game. Like, wow I forgot how badly written most of the women were in this game.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Thundersword238 posted:

Yay, we finally got to the thing with Alexis! Now I can say that Alexis is the best character in the game. Alexis is the destoyer of all your poo poo and tanked everything for me when I played this game. Also having looked through the thread, wow is she better than literally every other woman in the game. Like, wow I forgot how badly written most of the women were in this game.

You're forgetting Marion, friend.

Mr.Morgenstern
Sep 14, 2012

Thundersword238 posted:

Yay, we finally got to the thing with Alexis! Now I can say that Alexis is the best character in the game. Alexis is the destoyer of all your poo poo and tanked everything for me when I played this game. Also having looked through the thread, wow is she better than literally every other woman in the game. Like, wow I forgot how badly written most of the women were in this game.

I think it's a bad sign when the best written woman in the game is written as a male most of the time.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Lavinia and Noel are fine....

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused
Well they went about that reveal in about the most awkward way possible.

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.
I would facepalm at that if it wasn't for the fact that I'm somewhat dead inside from too much anime.

Thundersword238
Oct 15, 2012

Gamerofthegame posted:

You're forgetting Marion, friend.

Swords are superior to guns, have you never seen an anime :colbert:

Mr.Morgenstern posted:

I think it's a bad sign when the best written woman in the game is written as a male most of the time.

I want to make a post later when we see the last part of Alexis's story, but I think she's one of the better examples of this kind of character.

Krumbsthumbs
Oct 23, 2010

2nd Place.
1st Loser.
Considering how little we've seen of several of the female characters, for people to say who is superior to who fills me with dread. For example, we've seen very little of Coleen, and now I'm terrified of what horrible quirks she has.

Krumbsthumbs fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Apr 21, 2015

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Most classmate missions are inoffensive at worse, just solving personal problems they have because some of them are still teenagers.

Except Melissa. Oooooh boy, that is the only classmate quest that even I would say is legit terrible.

gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011
A good idea to understanding GRA racism...

Picture this...

Your people have been a neutral nation who suddenly been invaded by another country woth some hardline bigots. No problem, resource conflicts happen all the time no problem. But they then start escavating your ruins for WMDs to end the war quickly because you are holding on with tooth and claw. However suddenly your head of state reveal she is one of the people responsible for the end of the world by the religion you follow? Sure you repelled the empire but you now got an ursurper faction ruling your people? So who else who want Gallia aside from the Empire?

-Darscen fanatics who sees her capture as the establishment of an Darscen state. Eventually recruiting people who saw enough oppression to make non loyal members hang while others will suffer a dozen times more?

-A Yggist version of the People Crusades, ragtag Yggists who join together to purge the illegitimate kingdom. Its going to be an brutal slaughter. Not shooting people in rampages but rounding up and commiting horrific atrocities like live burnings, beheadings and impaled corpses.

At this point you are utteely convinced either you remove them or they do it for you.

Francis
Jul 23, 2007

Thanks for the input, Jeff.

Krumbsthumbs posted:

Considering how little we've seen of several of the female characters, for people to say who is superior to who fills me with dread. For example, we've seen very little of Colette, and now I'm terrified of what horrible quirks she has.

Please look forward to it.

weso12 posted:

Strange question for the purpose of other people's potentials does Alexis count as a male or female?

Always female, even before you do her storyline. The poster who said otherwise is a dumbass.

King of Bleh
Mar 3, 2007

A kingdom of rats.

Krumbsthumbs posted:

I'm not exactly well versed in anime, but there is no way Alexis here isn't a lady. I'm guessing there are people who can point out the obvious signs, but the extremely dedicated personality is already taken by Reiner, there's got to be something else here. Now I'm really curious how terrible "his" voice clips are.

God I hope I'm way, way off on this.

As if we needed more evidence of how paint-by-numbers this game is, we had multiple people who'd never played this calling the Alexis twist basically as soon as she showed up. (Although listening to the voice clips now, they did do a fair job of making her sound believably androgynous).


Not to derail the thread too too much, but is there some reason as to why you are dropping youtube links in every post you make? Doesn't seem to be limited to this thread or this forum.

BlazeEmblem
Jun 8, 2013

Uh oh. Do I use Ariadne thread or Goho-M?

So now we have gotten the Alexis "twist" out of the way. I was surprised by this twist - not because I thought Alexis was male, she was clearly female; I was surprised that the game expected you to be surprised by this.

They do go to some lengths to hide this, though - Alexis is listed as male in your classmate records until this, and she uses the male class change salute even after her sex is revealed. Every other female does a little jumping bow.

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry

Xander77 posted:

Huh. So someone sat down, read the complaints about the main female character being more than enough to solo through VC1, and came up with a brilliant solution.

Isara could rule all and sundry on account of being in a custom tank, I don't think that's unrea--

Oh, no, wait.

How dare the Valkyrur kick rear end in a game called Valkyria Chronicles.

...oh god if Cosette's a secret Valkyrur I will start hitting people and I don't know when I'll stop.

Gamerofthegame
Oct 28, 2010

Could at least flip one or two, maybe.

Glazius posted:

...oh god if Cosette's a secret Valkyrur I will start hitting people and I don't know when I'll stop.

It's okay it's literally canon that all Valkyur have big boobs.

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Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!

Gamerofthegame posted:

It's okay it's literally canon that all Valkyur have big boobs.

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