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Enos Shenk posted:They're also pretty terrible. My old man is a mailman, they HATE these trucks during the winter. See how the front tires are farther into the fender than the rear tires? Yeah, the front wheelbase is narrower. And it's a rear-wheel drive vehicle. So what happens is in snow the front tires plow out a little mound that lines up perfectly with the rear drive wheels. They're also pretty light in the back, so they get stuck in a couple inches of snow. Apparently they never bothered to test them in snow conditions. In Alaska the postal service gets Jeep Cherokees. I assume other parts of the US that get significant persistent snow do the same.
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Jeoh posted:Someone already created a chengguan mod. Increases taxes based on the amount of parked cars. It's awesome. Link?
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Enos Shenk posted:They're also pretty terrible. My old man is a mailman, they HATE these trucks during the winter. See how the front tires are farther into the fender than the rear tires? Yeah, the front wheelbase is narrower. And it's a rear-wheel drive vehicle. So what happens is in snow the front tires plow out a little mound that lines up perfectly with the rear drive wheels. They're also pretty light in the back, so they get stuck in a couple inches of snow. Apparently they never bothered to test them in snow conditions. My mother is a letter carrier, so I'm familiar with many of the LLV's faults. Wasn't aware of those snow problems, however, since we live in California. These days she is wondering what is gonna fall apart first, her increasingly arthritic knees (4 years to retirement!) or her LLV. xzzy posted:In Alaska the postal service gets Jeep Cherokees. I assume other parts of the US that get significant persistent snow do the same. A variety of Jeep is actually what the LLV replaced, but yeah, I'm sure somewhere like Alaska they'd definitely get nice modern ones that can handle the conditions. Down here in Central California most new letter carrier vehicles are minivans of some kind (Dodges I think). According to my mom they're arguably less popular (not right hand drive, more cramped, less efficient cargo usage) except for one critical difference that is very popular, they have air conditioning. Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Apr 20, 2015 |
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Hubis posted:I'm going to chalk this up to "Finns are Weird".
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I am absolutely loving this game. Trying to find workable traffic solutions is way more interesting then I ever would have thought. That being said how do you get industry to develop late game? I have a city of about 110k with like 4% unemployment and even if my people want industry, they won't actually work at the jobs in a newly zoned area. I just get "not enough workers" icons on pretty much every building. Seems like the level 3 buildings are fine but the level 1 buildings get permastuck at level 1 since no one wants to work there.
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TheGreySpectre posted:I am absolutely loving this game. Trying to find workable traffic solutions is way more interesting then I ever would have thought. You just need a lot more workers. I've found I have trouble filling new jobs if my unemployment is less than 10%~ or so.
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xzzy posted:In Alaska the postal service gets Jeep Cherokees. I assume other parts of the US that get significant persistent snow do the same. They still drive the crappy mailbuses here in ND in the winter.
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TACD posted:This is the first game in a long, long while that has me excited enough to be thinking about it a lot when I'm not even playing it. I'm only just started my first 'proper' city (having done one mucking about how-does-this-work OH-MY-GOD-CURVED-ROADS city) and I'm having a blast making cute little neighbourhoods and watching everything grow. I want british style roads too, mini roundabouts would make things a lot easier. Hopefully when tunnels come in the next patch it'll let you make tunnel paths to create pedestrian underpasses. This is my main ugly junction area. I should really tear it all down and make proper looking junctions but last time I did that traffic ground to a halt. Also I loving love the first person mod way more that I thought I would. First time I walked over a hill out in the country to see across the whole city was amazing. I'd love to see it at night too.
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Longbaugh01 posted:It was the last patch, and no, but if you find out please let us know. I mentioned it when it first started, but no one seemed to care. I've been doing some experimenting but have made zero progress on a fix A fresh install of the game did nothing, reinstalling the LUTs doesn't work, and it even applies to new ones that have never been installed before. Anyone know how to submit a bug report?
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# ? Apr 20, 2015 23:50 |
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I'm curious- has anyone attempted vehicle or pedestrian mods to add to the pool of available vehicles/sims? It would be super cool if I could get a TTC or GO! Train/Bus skin, and I'd also love to see goofy cim additions.
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Am I correct in thinking that downloading buildings from the workshop fucks up your achievements, etc like any other mod? I know there's a cheev mod, just wondering
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Zeitgueist posted:Am I correct in thinking that downloading buildings from the workshop fucks up your achievements, etc like any other mod? Buildings and anything else that falls under "assets" works fine with cheevos. If it's a growable building it'll even automatically show up randomly in the appropriate zones.
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I'm not sure what conditions I fulfilled to do this but I wish I could replicate it at will, it would be pretty helpful!
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Use the Fine Road Heights mod and you can do that all the time. http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=413678178&searchtext=fine+road+heights
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watch out they're coming for you
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beerinator posted:I have the chrome extension "Earth View from Google Maps" which grabs an interesting satellite view image from google maps and displays it on your new tab page. It's often a shot of a section of interstate or overhead view of a suburb and since Cities Skylines came out I always catch myself pausing whatever I'm doing and study the image looking for inspiration. This is really cool, I just spent like 15 minutes refreshing a new tab
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give me thread posted:Can I just say - this looks flippin amazing! It's not mine, it's some dude's pic that I saw. Here's my attempt to emulate it, which of course neither looks as cool nor works as well: Note the large pileup near the bottom. I've been trying to do this city without subways because trains look so much cooler, but I'm nearing 75k pop and my roads can't take much more. Pretty proud of my trash facility in the upper left, though. Keeps garbage trucks flowing smoothly to every point in the city.
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Domattee posted:As others have said this is standard signage on the continent and means you have priority. Side roads have to have stop/yield signs so they know that the other road has priority and won't take someones right-of-way and cause a crash. (In Germany at least this is a legal requirement and if the city fails to provide it it has to cover any accident costs) As a North American, I don't understand what the point of the priority sign is. We just... wouldn't have a sign on the priority route, and then we'd have yield or stop signs on the secondary road. What would a European do upon approaching an intersection that has neither a yield, a stop, or a priority sign, and how does it differ from how they would drive if there were a priority sign? This is exactly why I don't drive in Europe...
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PT6A posted:As a North American, I don't understand what the point of the priority sign is. We just... wouldn't have a sign on the priority route, and then we'd have yield or stop signs on the secondary road. What would a European do upon approaching an intersection that has neither a yield, a stop, or a priority sign, and how does it differ from how they would drive if there were a priority sign? I think all it does is confirm that yes, you do have priority. We simply have a stop sign where you need to stop and it's assumed the priority road knows it has priority via not having a stop sign. The priority sign just confirms it so there's no confusion. At least that's what I assume. They also like to actually paint lines on the intersection its self to clearly show who has priority.
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Morpheus posted:Were you listening to me, Neo? Or were you looking at the woman in the red dress?
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# ? Apr 21, 2015 03:54 |
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We don't really think of it as priority in the US. Stop is obviously giving priority to through traffic, but I think on the books most (some? Just where I took drivers Ed?) jurisdictions yield signs are based on first past. I say on the books because culturally yield signs either mean step on it, or this is a stop sign, depending where in the country.
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I made some islands
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gently caress you, I was just about to post that.
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Trainz
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There's a UPS distribution center between me and downtown, and in the morning the road from there to the freeway is just UPS truck after UPS truck with some normal traffic in-between. I keep picturing them with donuts on top and wondering which Ice Cube Factory they're delivering goods to today.
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Baronjutter posted:I think all it does is confirm that yes, you do have priority. We simply have a stop sign where you need to stop and it's assumed the priority road knows it has priority via not having a stop sign. The priority sign just confirms it so there's no confusion. At least that's what I assume. They also like to actually paint lines on the intersection its self to clearly show who has priority. That actually makes sense. I forgot that we can also have uncontrolled intersection, which are just bad news all around (how many people do you suppose actually know the right-of-way rules for one of those, given the behaviour we see at 4-way stops).
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Streamed this from my laptop to my Surface Pro 3. Oh god Im never going to get to sleep again
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# ? Apr 21, 2015 05:35 |
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I have had a lot of fun with this game. The fluid mechanics must have been a massive pain to program but it was worth it.
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PT6A posted:As a North American, I don't understand what the point of the priority sign is. We just... wouldn't have a sign on the priority route, and then we'd have yield or stop signs on the secondary road. What would a European do upon approaching an intersection that has neither a yield, a stop, or a priority sign, and how does it differ from how they would drive if there were a priority sign? If he doesn't have a priority sign he would probably assume normal right-of-way rules apply and give the side-road to his right priority, who is giving it to the main road, leading to a whole lot of gesturing and nobody moving. I haven't driven in America before but do people seriously struggle with basic right-of-way there?
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Here, it's simple. If there's no sign, no line across the road... you have no reason to stop. Keep driving as though the side streets aren't there. If you don't have a give way or stop sign, they do.
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Domattee posted:If he doesn't have a priority sign he would probably assume normal right-of-way rules apply and give the side-road to his right priority, who is giving it to the main road, leading to a whole lot of gesturing and nobody moving. every loving day
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PT6A posted:As a North American, I don't understand what the point of the priority sign is. We just... wouldn't have a sign on the priority route, and then we'd have yield or stop signs on the secondary road. What would a European do upon approaching an intersection that has neither a yield, a stop, or a priority sign, and how does it differ from how they would drive if there were a priority sign? The annoying thing with priority signs (the yellow diamond) is that they don't appear at the intersection, but at the start of the road that has priority. I presume it's because it's not a 'you have priority on this crossing' sign, but a 'you have priority all along this road' sign. Obviously I forget to pay attention to those a lot so by the time I get to an intersection I have no clue if I'm on a priority road or not. My standard modus operandi is that when I'm on a bigger road I assume that I have priority. I think a lot of people do the same. Here's a bunch of signs: http://wegcode.be/wetteksten/secties/kb/wegcode/250-art67 and their meaning: 67.2: when there is a B9 sign, this sub-sign can be added to it at the crossing. Makes it clear which road exactly is the priority road. B1: yield B3: yield in X meters B5: come to a complete stop and yield B7: B5 in X meters B9: priority road B11: end of priority road B13: end of priority road in X meters B15: priority. the horizontal line can be changed depending on the actual geometry of the roads B17: yield to cars on your right, cars on your left have to yield to you B19: small road, yield to cars coming the opposite way B21: small road, cars coming the opposite way have to yield to you B22/23: bikes can go through a red but have to yield to anything else on the road 67.4.1: extra sign to indicate that 2-wheelers can come from both directions 67.4.2: extra sign to indicate that the first sign only applies to 2-wheelers The 'right on red' thing that exists in the US doesn't exist here. (Except for bikes when the B22 or B23 sign is there.) But in cases where that would be useful and space allows there's just a small road where you can bypass the red light entirely. Obviously you'd have to yield to other traffic then.
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That sounds.. unnecessarily complicated.
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Ugh guys is that traffic engineering thread in A/T still around so you can go stink it up with your nasty "real life" traffic scenarios? You're ruining my immersion. PS yes, American drivers are complete bumblefucks when it comes to right of way. Even when they do know who has it, half the time they insist on being "polite" and waving the wrong person into the intersection first. Like when someone wants to make a left turn, the opposing traffic will politely gesture to the turner to go ahead, confusing everyone else (especially pedestrians!)
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# ? Apr 21, 2015 12:37 |
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Or even better, when there are two oncoming lanes, the driver in the closer lane is waving your left turn through, completely oblivious to the traffic correctly using its right of way in the other oncoming lane. Then they get frustrated when you don't turn. Generally, though, the politeness is at four-way stops, and can really screw things up, particularly when we decide that four way stops need eleven incoming lanes, which is terrible even when people aren't screwing it up. EDIT: Never mind, you're right, this isn't the A/T thread. Probably shouldn't be reading the two back-to-back.
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P.D.B. Fishsticks posted:Or even better, when there are two oncoming lanes, the driver in the closer lane is waving your left turn through, completely oblivious to the traffic correctly using its right of way in the other oncoming lane. Then they get frustrated when you don't turn. It'd still better than when the person they're waving through does take the turn, and winds up hitting you instead.
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# ? Apr 21, 2015 13:54 |
There are shitheels here that will wave you in then gun it in an attempt to collect on insurance.
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People in America get really mad at you when you refuse their politeness and strictly adhere to the right of way. It's kind of hilarious. Like how dare you turn down this NICE THING I DID FOR YOU?! nevermind that going out of turn puts people at risk.
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I just messed with my pop gen dam and my city god flooded with poop
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After an inadvisably-placed dam, apparently it was "HEY EVERYONE LET'S DRIVE THROUGH THE FLOODED INTERSECTION" time
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