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Daler Mehndi posted:For a moment, I thought you meant Cars. Well, he did live. In a sense of the word.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I really am curious just how many Tarot Stands would've been made significantly easier by Avdol's presence in the fight.
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Something that never gets brought up is the fact that Hol Horse's bullets are part of his Stand, so he might be able to take damage from his bullets being hit. In which case, yeah, he'd definitely not want to fight Avdol.
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Apr 20, 2015 19:00
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Who would actually want to fight a guy whose power is setting everything on loving fire
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Apr 20, 2015 19:25
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polnareff apparently
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TheKingofSprings posted:Who would actually want to fight a guy whose power is setting everything on loving fire Dark Blue Moon could just go in the water. Can't set water on fire.
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Waffleman_ posted:Dark Blue Moon could just go in the water. Can't set water on fire. Just gotta try hard enough.
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Waffleman_ posted:Dark Blue Moon could just go in the water. Can't set water on fire. Avdol could still probably boil the water. Ordinary people can't see the "flames" that Magician's Red creates, though they can feel the heat, or see the fire once objects actually ignite. It's more accurate to say that he creates heat, though Stand Users can still see that heat in the form of phantasmal flames. 
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I'm inclined to say Avdol has the advantage against DBM since he can probably directly evaporate the water.
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I'd like to remind everyone that Avdol almost defeated Geb.
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Geb was a pretty broken stand in its own right, balanced only by N'Dour being blind.
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JoJo has a proud history of characters not being broke as gently caress only cause they're stupid. Part 4 has it even worse, with one of the main dudes having an INSANE Stand power then maybe using it like 3 times cause he's a retard.
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Yeah this is the animation thread, just saying. vvvv: people aren't even going to understand the reference. Anyway I don't see the point because Avdol isn't anything like the character you're mentioning, and isn't remotely dumb, just kind of chivalrous and also not there. I can't even think of other characters too stupid to use their powers. He's the only one. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Apr 20, 2015 |
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Bad Seafood posted:Geb was a pretty broken stand in its own right, balanced only by N'Dour being blind. Even with him being blind, he used it pretty well. About the only thing he did wrong was not kill Iggy immediately.
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a character does things in part 4 *is banned for posting spoilers*
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Kurtofan posted:Yeah this is the animation thread, just saying. I'm sorry he posted a very short offhand comment, but thank you for putting him in his place on, this, the anime subforum of a comedy message board
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In part 6 there is this cool character who almost kills this other cool character near the beginning. I made all of this up but it's probably true
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Eonwe posted:I'm sorry he posted a very short offhand comment, but thank you for putting him in his place on, this, the anime subforum of a comedy message board I was just saying there's no point in talking about a character people in here don't know to explain current stuff, especially when it's not really the case. It's not really about spoilers, it's the fact that you can't reply without going into spoilers unless staying really non-specific. Sorry for being snippy about it. Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Apr 20, 2015 |
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Bad Seafood posted:Geb was a pretty broken stand in its own right, balanced only by N'Dour being blind. Him being blind was probably better for his stand. As he does not have to get anywhere near the group to target them just relying on the sound. Him and his stand had a similar situation to the Sun. Arabia Fats had to keep an eye on and stay in sight of Jotaro and gang. In end using the mirror to try and make them not notice him. N'Doul just had to sit within his stands range and listen out of sight.
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Let us all take a moment and remember how Abdul got a poor innocent beggar killed.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Something that never gets brought up is the fact that Hol Horse's bullets are part of his Stand, so he might be able to take damage from his bullets being hit. Not everything that's part of one's stand "transfers damage" to the user. See also: Polnareff not getting damaged over Silver Chariot's sword breaking. Generally seems like reusable/ammo portions of peoples' stands are considered expendable, but like everything in Jojo this exception is subject to exceptions depending on what feels best for Araki when he's writing the characters.
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Let us all take a moment and remember how Abdul got a poor innocent beggar killed. Yeah it's kind of ridiculous that it took them more than two hours to go "hmm maybe we shouldn't have had a normal rear end dude looking for a vampire with divination powers and henchmen without an escort."
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The damage to Thoth from Emperor's bullets didn't transfer to Boingo either. I think this is generally waved away by it being an "automatic" Stand, but there are later automatic Stands that transfer effects of battle to their users so :Araki: e: I'm not sure what's accomplished by pretending a vague statement about a Part 4 character is a spoiler, then following that up with more detail about said character. dogsicle fucked around with this message at 23:21 on Apr 20, 2015 |
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:Let us all take a moment and remember how Abdul got a poor innocent beggar killed. Now when you say "poor"...
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dogsicle posted:The damage to Thoth from Emperor's bullets didn't transfer to Boingo either. I think this is generally waved away by it being an "automatic" Stand, but there are later automatic Stands that transfer effects of battle to their users so :Araki: Any rule that Araki makes up about Stands become less and less relevant with time, which is good because Araki's weirdness cannot flourish under such restrictions.
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Remember that it was once a Stand rule that they were named after the tarot.
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Waffleman_ posted:Remember that it was once a Stand rule that they were named after the tarot. And that their name involved colors. I'm still salty that Iggy's Stand isn't named Fool's Gold. Taciturn Tactician posted:Yeah it's kind of ridiculous that it took them more than two hours to go "hmm maybe we shouldn't have had a normal rear end dude looking for a vampire with divination powers and henchmen without an escort." And this is after they spent the better part of their journey seeing Speedwagon Foundation guys and other innocent people who happened upon their Stand Battles getting killed.
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FirstAidKite posted:Avdol would lose to a fight against The Lovers They never actually proved whether or not killing steely dan instantly would cancel out his stands effects though.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:And that their name involved colors. Dogs can't see color 
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This is true. But then how did Iggy know how to make a perfect sand clone of himself with the exact same appearance right down to eye color? 
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Taciturn Tactician posted:Yeah it's kind of ridiculous that it took them more than two hours to go "hmm maybe we shouldn't have had a normal rear end dude looking for a vampire with divination powers and henchmen without an escort." I don't know why they didn't just ride along with him in the first place. It's not like they were doing anything useful in the meantime besides sitting on their asses.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Him being blind was probably better for his stand. As he does not have to get anywhere near the group to target them just relying on the sound. Him and his stand had a similar situation to the Sun. Arabia Fats had to keep an eye on and stay in sight of Jotaro and gang. In end using the mirror to try and make them not notice him. N'Doul just had to sit within his stands range and listen out of sight. Well, Stands are an extension of one's spiritual power right? Would he even have the same Stand if he wasn't blind? Hobgoblin2099 posted:This is true. Well... just like how Star Platinum has incredible eyesight and artistic powers Jotaro himself doesn't have, maybe Iggy can't see colour but The Fool can.
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deadly_pudding posted:Dogs can't see color Dogs actually see yellow and blue, Iggy could totally perceive gold.
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Despite Iggy being as awesome as he was in the Pet Shop episode, he does not top young Joseph from part 2. I don't think anyone will.
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How Rude posted:Despite Iggy being as awesome as he was in the Pet Shop episode, he does not top young Joseph from part 2. That's kind of hard to say since each Jojo protagonist is usually quite different from the last, and we can't really have the Speedwagons/Caesars/other supporting cast members outshining our JoJos. Youngseph really is great, though. 
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How Rude posted:Despite Iggy being as awesome as he was in the Pet Shop episode, he does not top young Joseph from part 2. Young Joseph is among the best main characters and has a very solid claim to being the single best of all of them. That's at least in part because of the shift Araki had in his writing, where the protagonist didn't have to carry the whole thing and it becomes a ensemble piece. People not named JoJo actually get to win fights, and they can get more spotlight on them.  I would imagine in this part if the thread were polled the favorite crusader would probably be Polnareff and not Jotaro.
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Stairmaster posted:They never actually proved whether or not killing steely dan instantly would cancel out his stands effects though.
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