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Doctor Malaver posted:How come you care so much about this subject that your avatar is about it? Mild Aspergers most likely.
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gently caress! RENFE finally added the direct ALVIA trains from Madrid to San Sebastian, just a few days after I bought connecting AVE/ALVIA tickets at a higher price. That'll teach me. Travel time's the same, but I think I pissed away 50 euros because I'm an impatient gently caress (but, also cheap enough that I bought the promo fare and can't cancel them). On the plus side, I guess I get a smoke break in Zaragoza and I have an hour to gently caress around and see the area of the city immediately around the train station... PT6A fucked around with this message at 20:02 on Apr 18, 2015 |
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PT6A posted:gently caress! RENFE finally added the direct ALVIA trains from Madrid to San Sebastian, just a few days after I bought connecting AVE/ALVIA tickets at a higher price. That'll teach me. Now you see why everyone was warning you about how terrible RENFE's organization and website are. Sure, you'll get a ticket from A to B (maybe) but it'll be the wrong ticket, on a different itinerary, or there will be some fine print that was only mentioned in Spanish, or something else will go wrong with it. Every time I deal with RENFE I feel like I'm time traveling back to 1995 before people figured out how to make websites for public transit. Would it be so hard for them to model off sbb.ch or bahn.de? Looking again, I see they don't even have the basics of an English website figured out, even their front page is only mostly in English, and god help you Chinese tourists further on as it all goes into Spanish on a badly designed website with errors popping up every two pages as I tried to buy a ticket from Madrid to Granada just to see how bad it still is. Saladman fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Apr 19, 2015 |
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Saladman posted:Now you see why everyone was warning you about how terrible RENFE's organization and website are. Sure, you'll get a ticket from A to B (maybe) but it'll be the wrong ticket, on a different itinerary, or there will be some fine print that was only mentioned in Spanish, or something else will go wrong with it. Every time I deal with RENFE I feel like I'm time traveling back to 1995 before people figured out how to make websites for public transit. Would it be so hard for them to model off sbb.ch or bahn.de? Looking again, I see they don't even have the basics of an English website figured out, even their front page is only mostly in English, and god help you Chinese tourists further on as it all goes into Spanish on a badly designed website with errors popping up every two pages as I tried to buy a ticket from Madrid to Granada just to see how bad it still is. The website worked fine, it's the scheduling that screwed up. Unless it was available earlier in person or on a different website, that's a problem with Renfe's schedule system. I speak Spanish, so I don't notice the lovely localisation as much as other people.
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FaceEater posted:There are a couple little mom and pop shops that specialize in fish, yes. No full blown fish market though. At least not one I recall coming across. It's similar to a desert there, all that poor fish would just rot and get smelly. Thanks! I look it up if i feel like cooking fish for me and my friend. Are there any good seafood restauraunts in Granada?
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I guess this would be the best thread to ask. My girlfriend is taking some time from her studies in England to travel to Scotland. She'll be leaving from London by train and has ten days to end up in Edinburgh where she's flying out of. She's going by train and will be with her dad, but they have no definite plans to see or do anything anywhere. Any places they should for sure hit up?
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Falukorv posted:Thanks! I look it up if i feel like cooking fish for me and my friend. Are there any good seafood restauraunts in Granada? I don't remember a seafood restaurant in particular, but I recall that I had an awesome "fish and chips" tapas somewhere along the northern part of Calle Navas in Granada. I remember facing south and being on the right-hand side of the street, but gently caress knows if I remember what it was called... You can also visit, on that same street, the strange tapas bar with pictures of Jesus and the Virgin Mary everywhere that got featured on Anthony Bourdain's show once. It's every bit as weird and disconcerting as it sounds, but the food wasn't half bad.
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Zesty Mordant posted:I guess this would be the best thread to ask. My girlfriend is taking some time from her studies in England to travel to Scotland. She'll be leaving from London by train and has ten days to end up in Edinburgh where she's flying out of. She's going by train and will be with her dad, but they have no definite plans to see or do anything anywhere. Any places they should for sure hit up? You mean in Scotland or on the way there?
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Both. She has ten days and has to leave from Edinburgh, and that's all she's got so far. I realize it's a very open-ended question but she asked me "Where should I go?" and I couldn't answer her with any definition beyond "Uh, go to a town, they probably have scotch and beer...?" e: I don't think she cares about anything truly specific other than the real basics of like "Be sure to check out this castle" or whatever. If there's a town that's cool and you'd recommend just visiting and doing whatever there, just say so. Otherwise she'll probably just pick random places off the map. doug fuckey fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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Zesty Mordant posted:Both. She has ten days and has to leave from Edinburgh, and that's all she's got so far. I realize it's a very open-ended question but she asked me "Where should I go?" and I couldn't answer her with any definition beyond "Uh, go to a town, they probably have scotch and beer...?" I took a couple tours with Rabbies. One was loch Lomond and the other was St Andrews. I'd recommend both. Also Princes Street in Edinburgh.
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Falukorv posted:Thanks! I look it up if i feel like cooking fish for me and my friend. Are there any good seafood restauraunts in Granada? gently caress YES. Los Diamantes. The motherfuckin almejas are the best. Have several drinks there, and you'll get a different tapa each course. You might have to let them know which course you're on if they're busy. Or just order specifically. edit: Also have heard good things about Las Perlas. A bit pricey they say, but worth it for a good full meal. e2: And if you're a beer drinker, for Christ's sake don't order Cruzcampo anywhere in Spain. That poo poo is loving vile beer. It's like if someone swirled (even more) bile in Budweiser. In Granada, drink the Alhambra all day errry day. Alhambra Negra for bonus puntos. Ally McBeal Wiki fucked around with this message at 04:43 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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FaceEater posted:e2: And if you're a beer drinker, for Christ's sake don't order Cruzcampo anywhere in Spain. That poo poo is loving vile beer. It's like if someone swirled (even more) bile in Budweiser. In Granada, drink the Alhambra all day errry day. Alhambra Negra for bonus puntos. Mahou and San Miguel are pretty vile too, and a lot of places serve it as those three as the default beers. I've found tinto de veranos to be the only trustworthy alcoholic drink you can always get in Spain (I guess because how can you screw up sprite/fanta + boxed red wine?). E: Yeah, the wine is good too. Even the table wine (often). Saladman fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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Saladman posted:Mahou and San Miguel are pretty vile too, and a lot of places serve it as those three as the default beers. I've found tinto de veranos to be the only trustworthy alcoholic drink you can always get in Spain (I guess because how can you screw up sprite/fanta + boxed red wine?). I actually don't mind Mahou. Alhambra is by far the best regional beer, followed by Estrella Galicia. I also like Estrella Damm. On the topic of drinks in Spain, sangria is overpriced and you can make it at home. Saladman is right, just buy a tinto de verano if you're wanting a sugary wine drink. Also, a pour of pretty good red wine should be almost universally available. Order anything from Rioja for reds, and for whites I think the Rias Baixas generally does some nice light stuff. For the non-drinker, mosto is basically white grape juice, with zero alcohol content, served over ice with an olive garnish. It's delicious and if you're in the middle of a tapas crawl and need a break from boozing, it can be a nice alternative to soda.
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Going to Stockholm for 3 nights + Berlin for 6 nights in about a month and got couple of questions. Is Berlin welcomecard the best choice for getting around easily, and is there something similar for Stockholm? Also any recommendations on places/events to visit in, or near, those cities are always welcome. My schedule is pretty up in the air still. So far I've only booked a Bundestag tour in Berlin, and planning on going on a day trip to see the Sachsenhausen Concentration Camp. If anyone here has visited that place would be also nice to know if I really need a full day for it.
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FaceEater posted:Also, a pour of pretty good red wine should be almost universally available. Order anything from Rioja for reds, and for whites I think the Rias Baixas generally does some nice light stuff. Rueda is also a seriously up-and-coming region for white wine, and if you can find white Rioja (it exists, but it's way harder to find than red; might not be available by the glass) it's also quite nice. You don't have to overthink the wine by any means, though. I'm a bit of a snob, and I've had precisely 0 glasses of bad wine in Spain. I'd also second tinto de verano, because that poo poo is super tasty.
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Zilkin posted:Is Berlin welcomecard the best choice for getting around easily, and is there something similar for Stockholm? If you're staying for 6 nights (7 days), a normal 7-day ticket might be a better deal than the 5 day welcomecard. Depends on how many of the other discounts coupled into the welcome card you think you'll use. For Stockholm, there are multiple different options for public transport + free/discount entry to stuff combo passes, none of which are worth it unless you plan to spend 72 consecutive hour on a guided sightseeing tour. Just get a SL Access card and load something like 150-200 SEK of credit on it. It's not unlimited travel, but will very probably end up being cheaper than any of the time-based travel pass options. As for places to visit, what are you interested in?
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Zilkin posted:Going to Stockholm for 3 nights + Berlin for 6 nights in about a month and got couple of questions. Is Berlin welcomecard the best choice for getting around easily, and is there something similar for Stockholm? Also any recommendations on places/events to visit in, or near, those cities are always welcome. My schedule is pretty up in the air still. So far I've only booked a Bundestag tour in Berlin, and planning on going on a day trip to see the Sachsenhausen Concentration Camp. If anyone here has visited that place would be also nice to know if I really need a full day for it. I can recommend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernsehturm_Berlin , there is a restaurant at 200m which (always/sometimes?) slowly rotates and with good weather your have an awesome view.
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Zilkin posted:Going to Stockholm for 3 nights + Berlin for 6 nights in about a month and got couple of questions. Is Berlin welcomecard the best choice for getting around easily, and is there something similar for Stockholm? Also any recommendations on places/events to visit in, or near, those cities are always welcome. My schedule is pretty up in the air still. So far I've only booked a Bundestag tour in Berlin, and planning on going on a day trip to see the Sachsenhausen Concentration Camp. If anyone here has visited that place would be also nice to know if I really need a full day for it. Waci posted:If you're staying for 6 nights (7 days), a normal 7-day ticket might be a better deal than the 5 day welcomecard. Depends on how many of the other discounts coupled into the welcome card you think you'll use. For Berlin, this also strongly depends on where you are staying. The welcomecard is 5 days Berlin ABC (i.e. all of Berlin + Potsdam), but depending on your plans and where you are staying, Berlin AB might be enough on a ticket. That said, if you go for ABC, Potsdam is well worth a day-trip. It's very easy to get to (you can either go directly via regional train RE/RB or you can take the S-Bahn, which might or might not have you change at Wannsee), since Potsdam has become very pretty (again) in recent years, and Sanssouci/Neues Palais, Babelsberg and the Neuer Garten are really very pretty, and so is the Dutch Quarter in town. Since you seem to want to visit Holocaust-related sights, the House of the Wannseekonferenz might be interesting as well, as are the Holocaust Memorial and museum (the later are conveniently located near the Reichstag, on the way from Unter den Linden to the Potsdamer Platz). Waci's question what you are chiefly interested in still stands, though.
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I'm heading to San Sebastian in the end of June for several days. I've been there before and had a great time just hanging on the beach and popping into the old town for pintxos. This time I want to try to get out of the town and explore the surrounding region a little more. I'd be interested in checking out wineries, ciderias, hiking, farms, fishing, really anything. Anyone have any recommendations? I'm flying in and out of Bilbao if that makes a difference, but didn't plan on spending any time there as I've spent a day there before to check out the museum and didn't really find it to be overly interesting otherwise. I was considering renting a car from Bilbao if it will help me get to some cool places. Really interested in checking out some restaurants like http://asadoretxebarri.com/en/ that are a bit off the beaten path. Concerned about parking in San sebastian though (my airbnb def doesn't have any) Also, the last time I was there I met some guys who took me to a sort of cider house (big barrels of cider) and got drunk as gently caress on cider and ate a massive steak. I'd love to do that again, but I can't seem to find specifics anywhere online. Any one know where the hell I went and how I can go back?
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Waci posted:If you're staying for 6 nights (7 days), a normal 7-day ticket might be a better deal than the 5 day welcomecard. Depends on how many of the other discounts coupled into the welcome card you think you'll use. Thanks for the info. I actually remembered wrong and I'm only staying for 5 nights in Berlin, so I guess that makes the welcomecard a bit better deal even though it still won't cover the full visit. I'm mainly interested in visiting places that have some interesting history behind them, or just look really pretty. To give an idea so far I'm planning on visiting the Bundestag, some former stasi prison, Topography of Terror, Pergamon museum, and Sachsenhausen Concentration Camp. In addition I've booked a craft beer/brewery tour, going to see a musical, and couple walking tours of the city. Probably going to do that Potsdam day trip too.
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hbf posted:I'm heading to San Sebastian in the end of June for several days. I've been there before and had a great time just hanging on the beach and popping into the old town for pintxos. This time I want to try to get out of the town and explore the surrounding region a little more. I'd be interested in checking out wineries, ciderias, hiking, farms, fishing, really anything. Anyone have any recommendations? I'm flying in and out of Bilbao if that makes a difference, but didn't plan on spending any time there as I've spent a day there before to check out the museum and didn't really find it to be overly interesting otherwise. I'm headed there on May 19-23, if I come across any must-dos I'll let you know.
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Zilkin posted:Thanks for the info. I actually remembered wrong and I'm only staying for 5 nights in Berlin, so I guess that makes the welcomecard a bit better deal even though it still won't cover the full visit. Not sure if you have stumbled upon them already, but I have seen a bunch of tours by Fat Tire Bike Tours out and about in town, and they seem to be pretty decent. If you don't mind biking, that might be a nice alternative or interesting experience alongside (or instead of) a walking tour.
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Zilkin posted:I'm mainly interested in visiting places that have some interesting history behind them, or just look really pretty. To give an idea so far I'm planning on visiting the Bundestag, some former stasi prison, Topography of Terror, Pergamon museum, and Sachsenhausen Concentration Camp. In addition I've booked a craft beer/brewery tour, going to see a musical, and couple walking tours of the city. Probably going to do that Potsdam day trip too.
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Hollow Talk posted:Not sure if you have stumbled upon them already, but I have seen a bunch of tours by Fat Tire Bike Tours out and about in town, and they seem to be pretty decent. If you don't mind biking, that might be a nice alternative or interesting experience alongside (or instead of) a walking tour. My Lovely Horse posted:I went on a Berliner Unterwelten tour a few years ago and it was pretty interesting, might be worth checking out.
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I'm going to be doing a road trip through parts of Eastern Germany, Switzerland, Northern Italy, Northern Croatia, Slovenia, Austria, and maybe the Czech Republic if time permits. I'm mainly going for hiking and natural scenery. I might want to hit up a big city or two, but I know driving and parking in the cities can be a nightmare. Any major cities in the areas that I mentioned that aren't super frustrating or expensive to drive within?
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Kinkajou posted:I'm going to be doing a road trip through parts of Eastern Germany, Switzerland, Northern Italy, Northern Croatia, Slovenia, Austria, and maybe the Czech Republic if time permits. I'm mainly going for hiking and natural scenery. I might want to hit up a big city or two, but I know driving and parking in the cities can be a nightmare. Any major cities in the areas that I mentioned that aren't super frustrating or expensive to drive within? I hope you're taking at least 4 weeks to do this, preferably more like 8. Will you have a rental car or will it be your own car? If it's your own car you can say "gently caress off parking tickets" (except for the country that matches your plates) which means the majority of major cities are fine to park in—at least for like 1-2 days—with notable exceptions like Milan and to a lesser extent Prague and Zurich. If it's a rental you have to actually care about parking tickets since they'll probably find you and send it to your agency which will then add on a fee and send it to you. Milan is the only city you might possibly have on your itinerary that will be frustrating to drive in -- since you're on vacation and have the luxury of not driving between 8am and 10am, or 4pm to 6:30pm. I'm not sure what you mean by "expensive to drive within". Italy's highways are expensive, but there's no in city tax like London has or whatever. Swtizerland, Austria, and Slovenia have vignette systems to drive on the highway, so you'll have to buy those, but it's not bad compared to Italy's €0.10 per km or whatever crazy price their highways have. Maybe Croatia has that too? I can't remember now. On your route as far as cities go, I absolutely loved Ljubljana. The whole downtown is car free, but I just dropped off my car in some back alley for 4 days like a 20 minute walk from the city center, and it was still there (unticketed) when I got it later. Saladman fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Saladman posted:Swtizerland, Austria, and Slovenia have vignette systems to drive on the highway, so you'll have to buy those, but it's not bad compared to Italy's €0.10 per km or whatever crazy price their highways have. Maybe Croatia has that too? I can't remember now. No, it's regular tolls. Zagreb - Rijeka is 9€ for instance.
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Kinkajou posted:I'm going to be doing a road trip through parts of Eastern Germany, Switzerland, Northern Italy, Northern Croatia, Slovenia, Austria, and maybe the Czech Republic if time permits. I'm mainly going for hiking and natural scenery. I might want to hit up a big city or two, but I know driving and parking in the cities can be a nightmare. Any major cities in the areas that I mentioned that aren't super frustrating or expensive to drive within? For scenery in East Germany I can absolutely recommend Sächsische Schweiz, really pretty. Right next to it is Dresden and while not really a major city still big enough to have fun there and easily accessible by car.
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I was looking at rail bookings from Paris to Brussels on TGV using the rail europe site. Any idea why sometimes the first class price (Comfort) is lower than the second class price (Economy)? In one case it was $69 vs. $73.
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hbf posted:I'm heading to San Sebastian in the end of June for several days. I've been there before and had a great time just hanging on the beach and popping into the old town for pintxos. This time I want to try to get out of the town and explore the surrounding region a little more. I'd be interested in checking out wineries, ciderias, hiking, farms, fishing, really anything. Anyone have any recommendations? I'm flying in and out of Bilbao if that makes a difference, but didn't plan on spending any time there as I've spent a day there before to check out the museum and didn't really find it to be overly interesting otherwise. Is it possible you went to Sidreria Petretegi? http://petritegi.com/en.html Also, not sure about your exact itinerary, but the EuskoTren between San Sebastian and Bilbao is pretty cool and very comfortable. Cheap way to get between the cities too.
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PT6A posted:I'm headed there on May 19-23, if I come across any must-dos I'll let you know. awesome, thanks! FaceEater posted:Is it possible you went to Sidreria Petretegi? http://petritegi.com/en.html hmm, I don't think it was that exact place, but seemed similar. Thanks for the link.
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actionjackson posted:I was looking at rail bookings from Paris to Brussels on TGV using the rail europe site. Any idea why sometimes the first class price (Comfort) is lower than the second class price (Economy)? In one case it was $69 vs. $73. The same thing happens on Deutsche Bahn sometimes, and simply has to do with the availability of budget tickets. They probably ran out of reduced 2nd class tickets, but have some 1st class tickets left, which is why it's marginally cheaper to buy first class.
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All transportation is priced by magic, as far as I can tell, regardless of country or method. Why was a business class ticket on British Airways half the price of a premium economy ticket on my flight from LHR-YYC? We may never know, but it happened. Also, to upgrade my outbound flight from PE to business class would cost nearly twice as much as I paid for both tickets together! I suppose there must be reasons, but I can't fathom what they might be.
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So I'm planning a two-week trip in June with a friend. The aim is to fly somewhere, travel some, end the trip in Geneva (because his girlfriend works there) and then fly home. We're trying to keep our expenses minimal, although I realise that the following itinerary consists of fairly expensive countries. Here's what we've planned so far: June 2: Arrive in Amsterdam in the morning June 3: Amsterdam June 4: Amsterdam June 5: Travel to The Hague in the morning June 6: The Hague June 7: Travel to Antwerp in the morning June 8: Antwerp June 9: Travel to Luxembourg in the morning, arrival at 2 pm June 10: Luxembourg June 11: Early bus to Trier, arrive at 8 am, then at 5 pm take a bus to Strasbourg June 12: Strasbourg June 13: Travel to Lyon in the evening June 14: Lyon June 15: Travel to Geneva in the morning June 16: Geneva June 17: Fly home It's quite packed, but most of the trips between cities are a couple of hours at most, so we still get a half day's worth of exploring. I understand that the goonpinions on Amsterdam and Antwerp are good, but what about the others? Are any of these places really boring or just lovely in general? Any alternative suggestions, if so? We like old town centers, architecture and historical stuff, good food and beer (on a budget).
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Paper Clip Death posted:It's quite packed, but most of the trips between cities are a couple of hours at most, so we still get a half day's worth of exploring. I understand that the goonpinions on Amsterdam and Antwerp are good, but what about the others? Are any of these places really boring or just lovely in general? Any alternative suggestions, if so? We like old town centers, architecture and historical stuff, good food and beer (on a budget). Luxembourg is pretty boring, you could spend those 2 days elsewhere and not be so rushed. Luxembourg has a mediocre art museum that's housed in a neat piece of architecture, and their old city looks kind of cool thanks to Vauban and a gorge, so I guess it might still be up your alley. The American cemetery there, right next to the airport, has General Patton but I imagine when I went there in virgin snow was a lot more powerful than it would be in mid summer. Going to Trier for one day when you have a bunch of luggage to haul around will be a PITA and you'll, most likely, be exhausted. Probably there's somewhere in a train station you can drop off your stuff, but even so.
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actionjackson posted:I was looking at rail bookings from Paris to Brussels on TGV using the rail europe site. Any idea why sometimes the first class price (Comfort) is lower than the second class price (Economy)? In one case it was $69 vs. $73. In addition to general magic, those lower price 1st class ones might also not be refundable/flexible. I've booked a lot of Thalys and TGV tickets over the past few years, and changeable/refundable tickets have a markup.
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