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quote:A few pages late, but let me say not slapping a combo magnifier/light on that poo poo is the real scandal that'll bring down Hillary.
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William Bear posted:https://www.eventbrite.com/e/nc-gop-state-convention-2015-tickets-15377554680 For Trump, he'll keep it going until right before the next season of Celebrity Apprentice, to maximize the publicity. The last season ended in February, so he probably won't drop out until well into the fall. The X-man cometh fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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oddium posted:MEMORY ERROR would probably work better This needs way more love than it got.
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Alter Ego posted:It seems there is an inverse relationship at work here: the likelihood of a person carrying a pocket Constitution is inversely proportional to the likelihood that they actually know what's in the loving thing. Isn't TownHall like super right wing? Doesn't surprise me that they only are letting you get conservative choices from that poll. site fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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site posted:As someone who has one for class, yeah my memory is poo poo and it's handy. Or just use the internet like Ben Franklin intended.
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sullat posted:Or just use the internet like Ben Franklin intended.
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Kobayashi posted:Counterpoint: Dennis Kucinich. But Dennis Kucinich is a loving tool? 
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Jeb Bush is aiming to have his SuperPAC handle a big chunk of traditional campaign dutiesAP posted:DES MOINES, Iowa (AP) — The traditional presidential campaign may be getting a dramatic makeover in Jeb Bush's bid for the White House as he prepares to turn some of a campaign's central functions over to a separate political organization that can raise unlimited amounts of money.
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I thought a SuperPAC wasn't allowed to coordinate with a candidate so openly? Or am I getting mixed up with the way things were before the court ruling that brought them into existence?
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Tiler Kiwi posted:I thought a SuperPAC wasn't allowed to coordinate with a candidate so openly? Or am I getting mixed up with the way things were before the court ruling that brought them into existence? http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/3pwzi5/colbert-super-pac---not-coordinating-with-stephen-colbert
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Tiler Kiwi posted:I thought a SuperPAC wasn't allowed to coordinate with a candidate so openly? Or am I getting mixed up with the way things were before the court ruling that brought them into existence? No, you're right, they aren't legally allowed to coordinate with the campaign, but as Colbert showed us very expertly, that's a pretty thin veil that's pretty easy to get around. e: ^^^ yeah, that
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Well yeah, but this sounds more blatant than the usual "wink-wink nudge-nudge" style of coordination.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:Well yeah, but this sounds more blatant than the usual "wink-wink nudge-nudge" style of coordination. I for one am glad that campaigns are finally dropping the ridiculous facade since the public and the courts have made it clear that campaign finance reform is as likely as an executive order granting every american a unicorn
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werent pacs literally just posting "encrypted" poll numbers on nobody twitter accounts for campaigns to read and vice versa? haha check out this gibberish only one person knows where to check hahaha haha hah...
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:WKAR Public TV talk show Off The Record got rather salty this week. At one point Eric Baerran called Ted Cruz a clown. Hilarity ensues. Skip to 17:50 for anyone not interested in a lively discussion about funding Michigan roads.
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:werent pacs literally just posting "encrypted" poll numbers on nobody twitter accounts for campaigns to read and vice versa? Not encrypted, just stripped of context, but yeah. Transparently flouting the law, like siblings playing "I'm not touching you" to pick a fight
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It's legal for a candidate to state publicly what he would like his SuperPAC to do, because technically he's not directly giving them orders. The law against coordination is a joke.
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Am I crazy to think/hope that someone like Gov. Cuomo (NY) or Lt. Gov. Newsom runs? Maybe not for President but cause enough noise to go for VP? I kind of hope someone interesting runs vs. Hillary or maybe she is really good at locking poo poo down before running. Sorry for formatting I am on mobile at the airport.
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Fried Chicken posted:Not encrypted, just stripped of context, but yeah. Transparently flouting the law, like siblings playing "I'm not touching you" to pick a fight they used weird shorthand that was a bit difficult to decipher is what i meant by "encrypted" but yeah. lol.
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LOU BEGAS MUSTACHE posted:werent pacs literally just posting "encrypted" poll numbers on nobody twitter accounts for campaigns to read and vice versa? They also made an account for a west wing character to do this on.
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As funny as it would be to see a former New York Senator and a New York governor on the same ticket, it's not gonna happen
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Chamale posted:It's legal for a candidate to state publicly what he would like his SuperPAC to do, because technically he's not directly giving them orders. The law against coordination is a joke. No it isn't. quote:(d) Conduct standards. Any one of the following types of conduct satisfies the conduct standard of this section whether or not there is agreement or formal collaboration, as defined in paragraph (e) of this section:
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:As funny as it would be to see a former New York Senator and a New York governor on the same ticket, it's not gonna happen It would basically be the Bush dodge, democrat redux.
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Enigma89 posted:Am I crazy to think/hope that someone like Gov. Cuomo (NY) or Lt. Gov. Newsom runs?
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Series DD Funding posted:No it isn't. So does that mean Newt Gingrich broke the law in 2012 when he publicly requested his SuperPAC stop airing a particular attack ad?
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DaveWoo posted:So does that mean Newt Gingrich broke the law in 2012 when he publicly requested his SuperPAC stop airing a particular attack ad? He almost certainly did, even though it'd never be enforced against him.
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Series DD Funding posted:No it isn't. Enforcement is a joke, technically.
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Series DD Funding posted:No it isn't. Huh. I assumed it was legal de jury because Gingrich did it, I guess it's only de facto legal.
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DaveWoo posted:So does that mean Newt Gingrich broke the law in 2012 when he publicly requested his SuperPAC stop airing a particular attack ad? Possibly. Even if he did, the FEC is terrible at actually handling those cases. Since 1999, the FEC has only investigated PAC-campaign coordination 3 times. Only two of those cases led to fines, which totaled $26 grand.
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Mr Jaunts posted:Possibly. Even if he did, the FEC is terrible at actually handling those cases. Since 1999, the FEC has only investigated PAC-campaign coordination 3 times. Only two of those cases led to fines, which totaled $26 grand. That article is from before the 2012 elections. I quickly found two investigations just off of that: http://eqs.fec.gov/eqsdocsMUR/13044350366.pdf http://eqs.fec.gov/eqsdocsMUR/13044350548.pdf Criminal conviction: http://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...9ca6_story.html
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Enigma89 posted:Am I crazy to think/hope that someone like Gov. Cuomo (NY) or Lt. Gov. Newsom runs? Maybe not for President but cause enough noise to go for VP? I doubt it First, I feel like both of them are party insiders enough to know that Hillary does, in fact, have poo poo locked down. Second, I don't think either of them really makes sense as VP - Cuomo provides no balance at all and Newsom is only a lieutenant gov at the moment. Third, Newsom is... a very strong probability to be the next governor of CA, and while I'm sure he wouldn't turn down a VP slot, I would assume that his plans are more centered around the governor thing. Probably better to just come to terms with a boring-rear end Dem primary
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Enigma89 posted:Am I crazy to think/hope that someone like Gov. Cuomo (NY) or Lt. Gov. Newsom runs? Maybe not for President but cause enough noise to go for VP? Cuomo's part of Hillary's people so he wouldn't cross her by running for president and Newsom's already announced he's going for Moonbeam's job. Also either Cuomo or Hillary would have to change residences if he were to angle for a VP slot.
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Cuomo is also a massive piece of poo poo so he's got that going for him. Nothing like his father.
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Rincewinds posted:Does Bolton have any experience beyond being a tremendous rear end in a top hat? Regardless, you must admit he's a goddamn master within that one field.
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Series DD Funding posted:That article is from before the 2012 elections. I quickly found two investigations just off of that: Yes, and? Both of those cases were closed without further investigation and the criminal investigation was the first of its kind. The WaPo article even notes that of 29 complaints of coordination in the past 5 years, only one was investigated. It's really not that big of a stretch to say that enforcement of the rules regarding coordination are not enforced as strictly as they should. Furthermore, since the FEC is split evenly between Democrat and Republican members, it's nearly impossible to get a majority vote to strengthen the rules.
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