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Scrub-Niggurath posted:Its hard for people to remember because while bush was disliked by nearly everyone, the absolute vehemence with which republicans have stirred their base into hating obama completely eclipses it
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So if you have Twitter and want some top tier entertainment, for the past 24 hours Donald Trump has been in a flame war with the writers of the National Review and The Weekly Standard. It's pretty magical. 
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Munkeymon posted:Yes, the point would be to provoke a war that big Remember that part of the reason the situation in Iraq got so bad was because Rumsfeld was adamant on not sending 70,000 troops to occupy the country, IIRC. The situation in Iran would've been a disaster.
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Fried Chicken posted:So if you have Twitter and want some top tier entertainment, for the past 24 hours Donald Trump has been in a flame war with the writers of the National Review and The Weekly Standard. Ahahaha specifically he's been arguing with Jonah Goldberg
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Fried Chicken posted:So if you have Twitter and want some top tier entertainment, for the past 24 hours Donald Trump has been in a flame war with the writers of the National Review and The Weekly Standard. Future wannabe president, right there
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Job Truniht posted:Remember that part of the reason the situation in Iraq got so bad was because Rumsfeld was adamant on not sending 70,000 troops to occupy the country, IIRC. The situation in Iran would've been a disaster. A disaster past the part where they were deliberately plotting to have our troops slaughtered to give casus belli
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Ahahaha specifically he's been arguing with Jonah Goldberg I never thought there'd be a situation where I was rooting for Donald Trump
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Job Truniht posted:Remember that part of the reason the situation in Iraq got so bad was because Rumsfeld was adamant on not sending 70,000 troops to occupy the country, IIRC. The situation in Iran would've been a disaster.
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Apr 21, 2015 21:54
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Fried Chicken posted:If you are finding this incredulous, it's because you've forgotten how bad 2000-2008 was Reminder for all: the loss of that fight is what W considers to be his biggest failure as a president.
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Apr 21, 2015 21:59
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Job Truniht posted:Remember that part of the reason the situation in Iraq got so bad was because Rumsfeld was adamant on not sending 70,000 troops to occupy the country, IIRC. The situation in Iran would've been a disaster. He wasn't wrong.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:01
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Can D&D get an IK already so people can be probated arbitrarily yet? It's done wonders for YOSPOS.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:04
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My Imaginary GF posted:Have they even apologized for invading American soil? Not conditionally, not something like 'We're so sorry you weatern dogs forced us to burn your cia honeypot to the ground,' but an actual, unconditional apology? To quote Khomeini: "I'm not an apologize-for-Iran kind of guy. I will never apologize for Iran—I don't care what the facts are."
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Most partisans treat politics like sports rivalries, instead of focusing on issues. Oh word?
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Meg From Family Guy posted:He wasn't wrong. You're right. We shouldn't have sent 70,000 troops, we should have sent zero.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:13
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Reminder for all: the loss of that fight is what W considers to be his biggest failure as a president. I thought it was Kanye West saying he didn't care about black people.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:15
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Ralepozozaxe posted:I thought it was Kanye West saying he didn't care about black people. Goons became enraged when that occurred.
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Ralepozozaxe posted:I thought it was Kanye West saying he didn't care about black people. Nope. According to Bush that was one of the most disgusting moments of his presidency. Being called a racist hurt his feelings.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:21
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Stereotype posted:I like how quickly forget how mind bogglingly terrible the Bush presidency was, and how much worse it could have been if they had done everything they wanted My favorite was Cheney's plan to bomb the tunnel into Georgia while the Russian tanks were inside it. quote:"[Hadley] concluded that it was necessary for Bush to know what his closest advisors, Cheney in particular, thought and for the president to have an open discussion with his key cabinet members for the record on whether the United States should consider using its military power to help the Georgians. At a meeting of the Principals Committee on Monday, August 11, Hadley therefore put the military option on the table to see whether there was any support for such steps to help the Georgians repel the Russians. There was not. The president recognized that if the United States started down the path of anything military, they had to be prepared for an escalation and thus, in the end, for fighting Russia." Yup, we were that close to a hot war with Russia 
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Ralepozozaxe posted:I thought it was Kanye West saying he didn't care about black people. Any inkling of respect I might have had for Kanye was lost when he apologized. You personally irked the drat POTUS, and you take it back? That's some Bush made poo poo.
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Ralepozozaxe posted:I thought it was Kanye West saying he didn't care about black people. That was his most personally hurtful moment, not his biggest regret. I still have a hard comprehending how we collectively elected that feeb and his clowncar of lightweights and war criminals not once, but twice. Like, if I were to write out a short history of the Bush administration, do a few name changes, and submit it to Weird Tales or something, I'd expect it to be returned for unbelievability. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Apr 21, 2015 |
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Apr 21, 2015 22:23
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Joementum posted:My favorite was Cheney's plan to bomb the tunnel into Georgia while the Russian tanks were inside it. But Obama is just as bad, probably worse even.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:24
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Joementum posted:My favorite was Cheney's plan to bomb the tunnel into Georgia while the Russian tanks were inside it. I'm pretty impressed that it turns out the Bush Administration was far worse in every regard than people thought at the time. And yet I have no doubt that a Republican victory in 2016 would produce an even worse administration.
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Quote of the day, "Not only 'no', but 'hell no'." ~ Harry Reid, on whether he'll support fast-track authority for the TPA.
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What about his injuries makes it so he has to wear sunglasses all the time? Did the mob pour bleach in his eyes?
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Apr 21, 2015 22:31
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zoux posted:What about his injuries makes it so he has to wear sunglasses all the time? Did the mob pour bleach in his eyes? He's lost all or almost all vision in his right eye where it hit the One of his colleagues is helping him out with advice for recovering his vision. Yes, a certain self-certified ophthalmologist...
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Apr 21, 2015 22:34
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zoux posted:What about his injuries makes it so he has to wear sunglasses all the time? Did the mob pour bleach in his eyes? He has exchanged his sight to gain the vision to see Washington's Kitchen for what it really is.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:34
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Apr 21, 2015 22:36
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Joementum posted:Dammit, Biden Hahahahahaha.
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eSports Chaebol posted:Any inkling of respect I might have had for Kanye was lost when he apologized. You personally irked the drat POTUS, and you take it back? That's some Bush made poo poo. Kanye wasn't wrong either. Captain_Maclaine posted:I still have a hard comprehending how we collectively elected that feeb and his clowncar of lightweights and war criminals not once, but twice. Like, if I were to write out a short history of the Bush administration, do a few name changes, and submit it to Weird Tales or something, I'd expect it to be returned for unbelievability. This was suppose to be parody, not prophecy. The fact that it was actually prophetic and that it could have been so much worse just proves to anyone that republicans have no god drat business being elected to govern, let alone them having the majority in both houses of congress.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:41
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Joementum posted:My favorite was Cheney's plan to bomb the tunnel into Georgia while the Russian tanks were inside it. I don't think Cheney gave a poo poo where there was a war, just as long as there was one. I really think that he just wanted to kill as many people as he could.
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Apr 21, 2015 22:43
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Cheny was a wannabe super villain and came a pretzel's breadth away from having the power to really become one.
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Munkeymon posted:Cheny was a wannabe super villain and came a pretzel's breadth away from having the power to really become one. Wait, did he stop?
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Stereotype posted:I like how quickly forget how mind bogglingly terrible the Bush presidency was, and how much worse it could have been if they had done everything they wanted Also remember that in many of these discussions with Cheney, Wolfowitz, et al, Bush was the voice of reason.
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Star Man posted:I don't think Cheney gave a poo poo where there was a war, just as long as there was one. I really think that he just wanted to kill as many people as he could. I'm pretty sure he just wanted to make himself and his buddies some money.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:I'm pretty sure he just wanted to make himself and his buddies some money. More money for Haliburton. How those no bid contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan were never investigated is mind blowing.
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radical meme posted:More money for Haliburton. How those no bid contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan were never investigated is mind blowing. I'm very willing to believe the pallets of cash that 'disappeared' probably helped create ISIS, not intentionally mind you. But somebody got that cash.
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Star Man posted:I don't think Cheney gave a poo poo where there was a war, just as long as there was one. I really think that he just wanted to kill as many people as he could. The recent interviews with him regarding torture are downright terrifying. The guy comes off as legitimately a maniac who would probably personally pull your balls off with pliers if he thought it could get him what he wanted. I don't think human life even factors into his world view.
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radical meme posted:More money for Haliburton. How those no bid contracts in Iraq and Afghanistan were never investigated is mind blowing. Remember that the SECs response to substantial proof that Haliburton was committing fraud appears to have been asking them to investigate themselves and then leaking the name of the whistleblower responsible for attracting their attention. (They then found that Haliburton did nothing wrong)
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