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Apr 22, 2015 05:45
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Pirate Jenny posted:Yeah I read this as a "How socially retarded are you?" in the tone that potential employers ask during a job interview. Yeah my bad, didn't mean it like that.
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echopapa posted:I realize that, say, Kyle’s show is infinitely better than mine, because he’s got a lot more experience in the medium. I try to center my show around the things I have experience doing: improvisation and writing. The jokes in my episodes are written down the first time I see the movie, and the criticisms I offer are usually based on the movie’s plots. When I look for reviews to read/watch it is for a couple reasons: 1: To see if it is something I might want to watch. 2: Big fan of the reviewer. 3: I want to know more about it but don't have the time to see the thing so I can at least have the Cliff's Notes version. 4: To see someone cover something I like/dislike and want some other viewpoints. The problem with how damned partisan people are about every loving thing these days is what seems to make #4 the one I am least like most folks on. Every consumer product is PERSONAL IDENTITY and if you don't like/hate it exactly as everyone else does you are so evil n poo poo. I've been called incredibly negative by more than a few people even when they can see my damned writing and I have to basically tell them to reread what I just wrote and in general they then apologize. If they aren't still raging about THING I just spent entirely too many words writing. (But I work at a casino and try to people watch a bit wherever I go. The amount of people incapable of reading simple instructions in large print right in front of their faces is frightening. Hell, talk to anyone in technical support or a medical person or just about anyone who has to deal with anybody. People not be paying attention to jack poo poo to the point I am amazed roads aren't just full of car wrecks every day.) Why the gently caress do people just want their groupthink opinions spat back at them in exactly the same way they think? Folks can't think for themselves or maybe get new insights as to why they like/dislike a thing? I know GBS has a running meme mocking the South Park "Truth somewhere in the middle" thing but.. drat! How do yall reviewers manage to deal with such nitwits who inevitably probably freak out at you guys and gals constantly for not giving them exactly what they already think/care about? I've just done a couple LP videos/comic strips and written blog reviews and some of the fanboy feedback makes me want to slap more people than I already want to. You pro folk whose livelihoods kind of depend on viewership must be constantly looking for the nearest stress ball to crush.
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Apr 22, 2015 09:22
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Captain Rufus posted:
The example of this that stuck out the most to me was Film Brain. He reviewed a movie and this person got SO MAD about defending it that they maxed out three of the comment boxes on TGWTG. That movie was Die Another Day. Like, really. People get passionate about the oddest things.
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Apr 22, 2015 11:36
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Writer Cath posted:The example of this that stuck out the most to me was Film Brain. He reviewed a movie and this person got SO MAD about defending it that they maxed out three of the comment boxes on TGWTG. That movie was Die Another Day. Like, really. People get passionate about the oddest things. Does anyone have a link to the 6 page refutation of the ep. 1 Plinkett review?
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Apr 22, 2015 12:09
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Writer Cath posted:The example of this that stuck out the most to me was Film Brain. He reviewed a movie and this person got SO MAD about defending it that they maxed out three of the comment boxes on TGWTG. That movie was Die Another Day. Like, really. People get passionate about the oddest things. The most strenuous defenders of Die Another Day are usually people who really, really, really hate Daniel Craig, right?
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Apr 22, 2015 13:46
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StealthArcher posted:Does anyone have a link to the 6 page refutation of the ep. 1 Plinkett review? Unless there was another one I think that response was more along the lines of 106 pages. It was also obnoxious as all hell to read too. Nothing is more cringey then a dumb person trying to sound smart and the guy seemed scandalized at the very concept of editing a video around a thesis statement. That and the patronizing way he uses the name Mike to refer to RLM in general like he's talking to a ten year old. I think you can find it here: http://thestarwarstrilogy.com/starwars/post/2014/09/03/The-108-page-rebuttal-to-Mr-Plinketts-Phantom-Menace-review
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Apr 22, 2015 14:19
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9jack9 posted:Unless there was another one I think that response was more along the lines of 106 pages. It was also obnoxious as all hell to read too. Nothing is more cringey then a dumb person trying to sound smart and the guy seemed scandalized at the very concept of editing a video around a thesis statement. That and the patronizing way he uses the name Mike to refer to RLM in general like he's talking to a ten year old. I loved their response to it in this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTpWzg4aiEU
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Apr 22, 2015 14:32
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So wait, what do you guys mean by South Park's "the truth is always in the middle"? I haven't watched the series and my friends seem to praise it so I'm kind of unaware of it's failts.
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Apr 22, 2015 14:38
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iirc they're very "both sides are always as bad as each other", regardless of different contexts.
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Apr 22, 2015 14:42
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Annointed posted:So wait, what do you guys mean by South Park's "the truth is always in the middle"? I haven't watched the series and my friends seem to praise it so I'm kind of unaware of it's faults. South Park often shows both sides of an argument as obscene caricatures and then has a speech at the end about how the truth is somewhere in the middle. Sometimes it works, usually not so much. Or to put it another way, why pick a side when you can just sneer at the lot of them?
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Apr 22, 2015 14:47
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emeriin posted:iirc they're very "both sides are always as bad as each other", regardless of different contexts. Yea I think it started around that cigarettes episode where they made the cigarette company basically Willy Wonka and poo poo like 'oh without the slaves you used to pick tobacco we wouldn't have our black friends!' stuff while the anti smoking people were shadowy plotting liars who wanted to murder Cartman and claim smoking did it, and at first it was super clearly a joke, but then the moral was straight up 'yea maybe smoking is bad but these guys are also bad soooooo'
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Apr 22, 2015 15:01
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There's also one where they characterize people who want to keep kids off drugs as serving a giant evil corporation and at the same time being "proud liberals." South Park is basically teenage nihilism from people who have been teenagers since 1990. Actual sophomores have called it sophomoric.
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Apr 22, 2015 15:16
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And of course 'manbearpig' which was just a giant 'heh global warming more like Al Gore is a dumb retard right guys'.
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Apr 22, 2015 15:23
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Well, he is kind of dumb. He touts about global warming but takes private jets everywhere and doesn't seem to conserve energy and all that sort of thing.
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Apr 22, 2015 15:36
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Fans posted:Or to put it another way, why pick a side when you can just sneer at the lot of them? Of course, you can easily do both (pick a side and sneer at every position). There's no harm in that, after all. 
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Apr 22, 2015 15:39
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Wheat Loaf posted:Of course, you can easily do both (pick a side and sneer at every position). There's no harm in that, after all. Yeah but then you might be wrong about something. It's very important you're not only always right, but also the only person who was right all along.
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Apr 22, 2015 15:42
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South Park targets people indiscriminate of the political spectrum, in theory the Daily Show isn't any different; the difference is that when Jon Stewart does it, it's a matter of "we make fun of stupid wherever we see it", whereas South Park often comes off as "anybody with a strong opinion on something is dumb".
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Apr 22, 2015 15:43
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DStecks posted:South Park targets people indiscriminate of the political spectrum, in theory the Daily Show isn't any different; the difference is that when Jon Stewart does it, it's a matter of "we make fun of stupid wherever we see it", whereas South Park often comes off as "anybody with a strong opinion on something is dumb". This is pretty much the main issue. It's not taking shots at both sides, that is really not an issue at all, both Liberals and Conservatives do dumb poo poo, but this stupid idea that literally every single issue, no matter how clear cut, is between two sides full of raving lunatics and the ~truth is in the middle~. South Park in general is really really REALLY embarrassing when it does political stuff.
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Apr 22, 2015 16:11
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I'm sort of inured to politics, anyway. I used to be very interested, but I can't find it in myself to be bothered nowadays. I mean, there's a general election in a fortnight, and while I'll certainly vote (because one should always vote), but I feel disengaged otherwise. Not sure when it happened, really, but it did. I imagine a lot of it is down to the implosion of NI21 the day before the first election they contested. That was disappointing. I mean, they were maybe a bit too pro-EU for me, but they were something different.
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Apr 22, 2015 16:33
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In fairness, though, they seem to have backed off from the overt speechifying in recent seasons. Now their thing seems to be "Take a thing to its most absurd conclusion." Like Cartman using Let's Plays to take over the world.
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Apr 22, 2015 16:44
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OldTennisCourt posted:This is pretty much the main issue. It's not taking shots at both sides, that is really not an issue at all, both Liberals and Conservatives do dumb poo poo, but this stupid idea that literally every single issue, no matter how clear cut, is between two sides full of raving lunatics and the ~truth is in the middle~. Or if you just watch almost any episode and listen to the stupid poo poo they say. Like how they had that one episode where a character learns that he shouldn't say friend of the family because he really does not understand how that feels because he is not black(going from him saying "I understand" to the black guy to "Actually, I don't."), and then later had an episode about how it's totally ok to call someone a fag if they're acting like a fag
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Apr 22, 2015 16:47
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IronicDongz posted:Sorta breaks down when you realize that the political "middle" varies from place to place(does truth vary depending on geography?) and American politics are way way over on the right compared to most countries, so our left is far closer to their right. Generally speaking, "centrist" in Britain or Europe means "centre-left", while in America it means "centre-right". Both of the US parties are large tent organisations so you'll obviously see a lot of variation within them (perhaps less so with the GOP at the moment; all the liberals in the GOP died out when the right-wing won in 1980), and the same is true of, say, Britain, where the Labour Party was home to Tony Blair on one hand and Tony Benn on the other. I don't subscribe to the notion which insists that the Conservative Party here in the UK are Basically Democrats, but I think if David Cameron was from New England, he'd fit right in next to John Kerry and Andrew Cuomo. Wheat Loaf fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Apr 22, 2015 |
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Apr 22, 2015 16:56
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There is also the issue is that saying America is just "more right" than other countries is vastly over simplifying. For instance American immigration politics tend to be rather left wing compared to the European version.
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Apr 22, 2015 17:05
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PresidentBeard posted:There is also the issue is that saying America is just "more right" than other countries is vastly over simplifying. For instance American immigration politics tend to be rather left wing compared to the European version. Isn't immigrating to the US legally fairly difficult and complicated?
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Apr 22, 2015 17:21
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The main problem is the wait time caused by quotas, but it's much easier than somewhere like say Denmark. It's also considered inappropriate in most regions to complain about any immigration aside from illegal immigration.
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Apr 22, 2015 17:44
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Andrast posted:Isn't immigrating to the US legally fairly difficult and complicated? Not moreso than most of western/northern Europe and the UK, also we allow stuff like 'if you're born here you're American end of story'. And as said over here at the very least the only immigrants you can get open support for making GBS threads on is 'illegals' instead of just saying "TOO MANY BLACKS" so I'd say we're a good bit more left than many European countries there.
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Apr 22, 2015 17:47
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The rest of the developed world has exactly the same problems as America, but especially after Bush they can look down on Americans to feel better about themselves.
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Apr 22, 2015 17:50
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IronicDongz posted:Like how they had that one episode where a character learns that he shouldn't say friend of the family because he really does not understand how that feels because he is not black(going from him saying "I understand" to the black guy to "Actually, I don't."), and then later had an episode about how it's totally ok to call someone a fag if they're acting like a fag That episode was so frustrating. They tried to redefine "fag" to mean "obnoxious person who drives a Harley", without ever questioning why they wanted to use that particular slur. They used it to attack the masculinity of the bikers, too, so it wasn't divorced from its context, but they still tried the 13-year-old excuse of "it really means a bundle of sticks". I thought their politics were "we're libertarians, so we mock everybody  ". Haven't paid attention to them in a while, though, so I could be wrong.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Not moreso than most of western/northern Europe and the UK, also we allow stuff like 'if you're born here you're American end of story'. And as said over here at the very least the only immigrants you can get open support for making GBS threads on is 'illegals' instead of just saying "TOO MANY BLACKS" so I'd say we're a good bit more left than many European countries there. To be fair while those that are here already should receive amnesty/path to citizenship we should fix the system to make it difficult to be undocumented in the future. I would reference some of ha joon Chang's work but I'm on my phone right now. I just know that most of the benefit for lax immigration laws are for employers more than anything. You can also argue that it hurts other countries by draining them of skilled labor.
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The problem are the long wait times making illegal immigration attractive. There is nothing wrong with giving a work visa to everyone who applies, and granting citizenship to those that stay for at least a year. The problem is with employers abusing undocumented workers and paying them less than minimum wage.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:11
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PresidentBeard posted:The problem are the long wait times making illegal immigration attractive. There is nothing wrong with giving a work visa to everyone who applies, and granting citizenship to those that stay for at least a year. The problem is with employers abusing undocumented workers and paying them less than minimum wage. Is that a issue with the US only due to being close to Mexico or is it in a few EU nations that border countries with poo poo livings conditions? or do they have a better system then a fence. just asking as a dumb American. Also on the subject of both side are dumb, my favorite thing is when republicans and democrats declare about moving to Canada after every election. mostly for republicans since Canada is more liberal then the US. Edit: I am talking about employing underpaid illegals. Cyron fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Apr 22, 2015 |
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Apr 22, 2015 18:20
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Tatum Girlparts posted:And of course 'manbearpig' which was just a giant 'heh global warming more like Al Gore is a dumb retard right guys'. Matt and Trey have carved out their own special dimension of hell to burn in for eternity for introducing manbearpig into the world.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:29
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kaleidolia posted:That episode was so frustrating. They tried to redefine "fag" to mean "obnoxious person who drives a Harley", without ever questioning why they wanted to use that particular slur. They used it to attack the masculinity of the bikers, too, so it wasn't divorced from its context, but they still tried the 13-year-old excuse of "it really means a bundle of sticks". Jimbot posted:Well, he is kind of dumb. He touts about global warming but takes private jets everywhere and doesn't seem to conserve energy and all that sort of thing. There was a great political cartoon that I can't find that was basically about some dolt telling a person at an Occupy event how everything was made by corporations so ergo you can't complain because surprise surprise everything that is made in this country is often made by corporations that often exploit their workers.
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Yeahhhh while I'm all for picking on al gore they really hosed up on global warming in general. At least in the hybrid ep they made it clear that hybrids were good and they were only picking on some people that drive them.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:33
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Cyron posted:Is that a issue with the US only due to being close to Mexico or is it in a few EU nations that border countries with poo poo livings conditions? or do they have a better system then a fence. just asking as a dumb American. My impression is that its just as easy to get in other countries but impossible to stay due to strict hiring regulations.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:35
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I am not big on south park as I was a few years ago, the last time I watch it was the as big 3 parter with the gaming consles launch, game of thrones and black Friday paradies which was a good episode largely due to it lacked everything this thread hates about south park. but always sunny have taken it place for stupid sophomoric show i love since at least they always show that the gang are assholes. it may not be for everyone but it is a better show then south park IMO.
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Apr 22, 2015 18:45
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achillesforever6 posted:Ugh I hate that mindset, its like saying celebrities can't back lower class movements because they are rich That's fine but I think practicing what you preach can go a long way in a movement. It comes off as disingenuous otherwise.
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achillesforever6 posted:I think its Trey who said "We hate conservatives, but we hate liberals even more" Nah, it was more along the lines of, "I hate conservatives, but I loving hate liberals." The difference is subtle but, I think, significant. I find that conservatives are much easier to mock, but it just doesn't have the same kind of visceral satisfaction (a reaction I can't adequately explain) that comes with liberals getting slagged off.
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