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I still don't think it's a sexual thing. I think he just has a bizarre OCD compulsion to gently caress around with people's hair and most men he meets don't have pig/ponytails. Also helps that women are less likely to react with uncontrollable rage.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 07:49 |
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# ? May 13, 2024 11:33 |
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this madmans unquenchable lust for pony tails can not be contained swampland fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Apr 22, 2015 |
# ? Apr 22, 2015 07:54 |
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Slavvy posted:I still don't think it's a sexual thing. I think he just has a bizarre OCD compulsion to gently caress around with people's hair and most men he meets don't have pig/ponytails. Also helps that women are less likely to react with uncontrollable rage. How do you explain the "tantalising" comment? Anyway, sexual harassment often isn't a sexual thing for the perpetrator - its about power over the victim. Women are trained to not speak out, men are trained to be bold, when a man does this its inherently a sexual thing even if the perpetrator doesn't think so. In this case, there is physical intimidation as well as sexual, since he has 4 goons with him and also is described as being physically larger. Finally, there is political intimidation since he is the pm.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 08:08 |
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Saros posted:[e]Thread needs a more appropriate title stat.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 08:12 |
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New Zealand: Creepy Hair Touching Megathread
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 08:14 |
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Someone start a campaign to make JK shave for a cure.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 08:21 |
klen dool posted:How do you explain the "tantalising" comment? Anyway, sexual harassment often isn't a sexual thing for the perpetrator - its about power over the victim. Women are trained to not speak out, men are trained to be bold, when a man does this its inherently a sexual thing even if the perpetrator doesn't think so. In this case, there is physical intimidation as well as sexual, since he has 4 goons with him and also is described as being physically larger. Finally, there is political intimidation since he is the pm. I think you're dead-set on making it sexual, against all sense and reason. I very much doubt that he's both a pedophile and a wanna-be conventional rapist. It strikes me as being more like the kind of habits obsessive-compulsive people have - like he's unable to resist the urge to childishly tug on people's hair and hasn't learned to restrain himself because he's the goddamn PM. I'm not saying it's right or good but desperately trying to force it into being a sex thing against all reason doesn't really help anything. "Tantalising" is not "titillating" and the impression I get is of him trying to imply "if you didn't want me to tug on it like an enormous child, why would you tie it up in a ponytail? " Saying there's physical intimidation is pretty ridiculous though. He isn't an african warlord. The waitress isn't in fear of JK hitting her or committing some act of violence against her, ditto the security (who are quite literally working a government job and aren't actually super-villain henchmen who dispose of bodies).
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 08:21 |
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It is quite obviously the free hand of the market correcting a power imbalance.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 08:30 |
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I'm bored of this hair story now.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 09:05 |
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puchu posted:I'm bored of this hair story now. He's also a rapist and a pedophile.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 09:09 |
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Yeah but that's just the kind of habit obsessive-compulsive people have.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 09:14 |
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:He's also a rapist and a pedophile. I'm bored of this rapist and paedophile story now
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 09:14 |
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puchu posted:I'm bored of this rapist and paedophile story now I hear he likes to have beer, and BBQs Just like us!
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 09:16 |
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:I hear he likes to have beer, and BBQs I don't know, I'm not really in to the paedophilia
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 09:17 |
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puchu posted:I don't know, I'm not really in to the paedophilia It was just horsing around you see. He was just joking with the baby rape.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 09:17 |
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:It was just horsing around you see. He was just joking with the baby rape. This is a serious forum for debate and discussion, not for jokes, laughs, puns, funnies, japes,
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 09:26 |
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For all of Bombers bullshit and naivete/zeal, he timed the release of this perfectly. JK is on a 26 hour flight Turkey, so he only had time for that brief, lovely comment from LAX. Meanwhile the media have had a full run at it before he gets a chance to play any sort of damage control. Overseas media are picking up on it too, its front page of the Guardian now.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 09:35 |
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Slavvy posted:I think you're dead-set on making it sexual, against all sense and reason. I very much doubt that he's both a pedophile and a wanna-be conventional rapist. It strikes me as being more like the kind of habits obsessive-compulsive people have - like he's unable to resist the urge to childishly tug on people's hair and hasn't learned to restrain himself because he's the goddamn PM. I'm not saying it's right or good but desperately trying to force it into being a sex thing against all reason doesn't really help anything. The waitress said she was intimidated, so, she was. I am not dead set on making it a sexual thing - it is, despite what any of us want. Edit: I never said he was a rapist or a paedophile btw
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 09:40 |
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I look forward to this being dragged out to overshadow the Gallipoli centenary.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 09:42 |
John Keys is an international laughing stock & it owns WaPo, NYT, BBC, France's largest newsmag, etc etc
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 09:44 |
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A Canadian guy I know was like "what the gently caress" over this as well.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 10:22 |
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I can't wait for our two-minute mention on the next episode of Last Week Tonight. Even better will be all of the shares of the clip on Facebook and the ten minute story about how we were mentioned on a US show leading the news the next night.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 10:28 |
Exclamation Marx posted:John Keys is an international laughing stock & it owns THIS makes me happy. C'mon media! Be the little battlers for truth we all wish you could be! Dismember the creepy-yet-actually-a-massive-oval office PM! I'm not getting my hopes up for anyone in NZ actually caring about this. I really, really want to be wrong though.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 10:30 |
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SOMETHING ABOUT BEING HAIR
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 10:31 |
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:SOMETHING ABOUT BEING HAIR Hair to the throne: PM's son also a follicle fancier. Hire me, Herald.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 10:33 |
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Rugby World Cup is on soon so this will be meaningless and I will once again sell my own children to have a chance to have a beer with that blokes bloke hair pulling JK
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 10:36 |
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Fukin love rugby It's all that matters
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 10:37 |
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where's the porn with a John Key impersonator where he's banging some girl/dude who repeatedly says "oh yeah pull my hair Johnny" someone needs to pitch this to a porn producer
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 11:19 |
http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/9836454/Roger-Sutton-dubbed-the-Bald-Eagle
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 11:20 |
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the prime minister's office has a huge wall covered in mounted pony tails he's collected from potential voters
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 12:33 |
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No Minister is outraged on behalf of the real victim here http://nominister.blogspot.co.nz/2015/04/je-suis-john-key.html quote:Je suis John Key
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 12:45 |
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"people" on my Facebook think the hair touching is normal fatherly behavior
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 13:01 |
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Slavvy posted:"Tantalising" is not "titillating" Tantalising is WAY more worrying than titillating is. Titillating is what gets you off. Tantalising is the forbidden, that which taunts with its unobtainability. He's basically saying that he sees ponytails as a form of teasing. That John Key touches women's ponytails because he finds them tantalising is basically an admission that he is willingly abusing his power as PM in order to touch women. The fact that he isn't touching them in an overtly sexual area doesn't make it less of an abuse. And the fact that he, John Key, master of smug self-control, does it on camera, to multiple (often underage) women who are unaware of or unwilling to react to his touch, just makes it eery. What if it was literally any other part of a person's body? What if he called literally any other part of a woman's body 'tantalising' and was filmed touching schoolgirls there on camera while they tried not to react? I'm not saying he's a power-abusing pedophile. I'm saying that if I wrote a story with a character who touches and fondles little girls' hair just because they're within arms' reach, does so multiple times on live TV, and expects no one to react because he's a right-wing Prime Minister, you would assume he was a power-abusing pedophile.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 13:01 |
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dusty posted:No Minister is outraged on behalf of the real victim here I'm gonna just go ahead and say that I'm more comfortable with a political leader who commits adultery than I am with one who commits sexual assault.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 13:52 |
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bobbilljim posted:"people" on my Facebook think the hair touching is normal fatherly behavior This is what I'm expecting at my work, even from the woman whose 16 year old daughter has been stalked and assaulted by a a creepy old dude who thought her tantalising method of shelf-stacking at a supermarket entitled him to grab her butt and follow her home.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 19:25 |
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Ghostlight posted:Countdown to a leak of the waiters' identity through the regular channels. Within 24 hours. http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2015/04/23/update-the-prime-minister-and-the-waitress-part-2-dirty-politics/
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 19:32 |
Somfin posted:Tantalising is WAY more worrying than titillating is. Titillating is what gets you off. Tantalising is the forbidden, that which taunts with its unobtainability. He's basically saying that he sees ponytails as a form of teasing. You argue the point a lot better than klen dool; you're probably right. Leospeare posted:I'm gonna just go ahead and say that I'm more comfortable with a political leader who commits adultery than I am with one who commits sexual assault. Adultery for people in power is practically the norm and I'd be shocked and appalled if I voted for someone on the basis of their pristine, wholesome family life and they turned out to actually be pristine and wholesome.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 19:34 |
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Vagabundo posted:Within 24 hours. And here is the Herald article: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11436978
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 19:42 |
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*Opens Herald website* *Sees that some 'journalist' is already calling it Ponytailgate* *Closes laptop and sighs* Poor girl, it's bad enough having weird or rude customers, imagine having one who thought it was appropriate to touch you also. And it's the PM so you feel like maybe you can't do anything about it, then when you do tell people about it they think it's normal for someone to do what amounts to abuse or bullying. If Helen Clark had squeezed some guy's bum or had a thing for touching shaven headed men you bet there'd be some sort of outcry, but not for our John. I don't even know what my point is, the whole thing is frustrating and sad and then the Herald comes along to gently caress things up even more.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 20:19 |
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bobbilljim posted:"people" on my Facebook think the hair touching is normal fatherly behavior They would have a good point, if he was her father.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 20:31 |