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fade5 posted:So did no one notice that "eat the rich" is now basically part of Hillary Clinton's campaign rhetoric? Or does "eat the rich" only count when Bernie says it? Personally, I'm happy to dine on the rich no matter who's at the head of the table serving up body parts. The majority of this country doesn't know or doesn't care. Many of the people who do acknowledge the terrible impact of our never-ending Middle East war see it as something we were forced into or something that just randomly happened, not something we planned and deliberately constructed.
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comes along bort posted:Unlike in Afghanistan, important to have ideas in advance about who would rule afterward. We probably should have dismantled Afghanistan and turned it into either smaller states based on the current tribal bodies or just given the outer portions to other countries and left a smaller core Afghanistan. It's not like those borders mean anything, we drew them up after WWI.
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Apr 22, 2015 21:50
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Fried Chicken posted:Charity is my Patreon campaign. Let's define war, are we limiting it to ground campaign, or will we let air strikes in another country count (eg the Libya situation). And what about expanding an existing war (eg we start drone strikes or spec ops actions in another country)? To fully define that toxx: a new and not just continued ground campaign that is not the direct result of (a) major terrorist attack (+1k deaths) (b) humanitarian crisis with UN authorization (Balkans/Somalia) (c) honoring defensive pact treaties with other nations. Basically either a GW 1 or GW 2 scenario will enact this toxx, a Libya type of conflict will not.
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Apr 22, 2015 21:51
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Grapplejack posted:We probably should have dismantled Afghanistan and turned it into either smaller states based on the current tribal bodies or just given the outer portions to other countries and left a smaller core Afghanistan.
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Apr 22, 2015 21:53
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If only it were so easy to unscrew-up the West's border and country making decisions. At this point, trying to do it again won't help.
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Apr 22, 2015 21:57
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A Winner is Jew posted:To fully define that toxx: a new and not just continued ground campaign that is not the direct result of (a) major terrorist attack (+1k deaths) (b) humanitarian crisis with UN authorization (Balkans/Somalia) (c) honoring defensive pact treaties with other nations. Basically either a GW 1 or GW 2 scenario will enact this toxx, a Libya type of conflict will not. What was the difference between Gulf War 1 and Libya?
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Apr 22, 2015 22:00
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My Imaginary GF posted:What was the difference between Gulf War 1 and Libya? Ground war. Special forces don't really count since they're basically always somewhere on the ground.
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Apr 22, 2015 22:00
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Quote of the day, “Every day, I serve food to some of the most powerful people on earth – including many of the senators who are running for president: I’m a cook for the federal contractor that runs the US Senate cafeteria. But today, they’ll have to get their meals from someone else’s hands, because I’m on strike. I am walking off my job because I want the presidential hopefuls to know that I live in poverty. Many senators canvas the country giving speeches about creating ‘opportunity’ for workers and helping our kids achieve the ‘American dream’ – most don’t seem to notice or care that workers in their own building are struggling to survive.” ~ Bertrand Olotara, Senate cook.
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Apr 22, 2015 22:06
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Apr 22, 2015 22:09
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Grapplejack posted:We probably should have dismantled Afghanistan and turned it into either smaller states based on the current tribal bodies or just given the outer portions to other countries and left a smaller core Afghanistan. Back around 2007 when things really started to go to poo poo there, I remember a rather salient point being brought up by a conservative commentator, that one of the big problems in Afghanistan was getting anywhere. Even if you assembled a stable central government, it had very limited ability to get out to the tribal regions and enforce things. That what we could have done to make the whole thing much easier would be build them a modern highway system, preferably employ a bunch of locals to do so and kill multiple birds with a single stone. When the follow up question was "why didn't the Bush administration do this?" Was asked, the guy pointed out that the highway system would have connected with the ones in China and Iran, and the Bush administration didn't want them to benefit at all. Let's hear it for cutting off our nose to spite our face!
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Apr 22, 2015 22:11
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zoux posted:
I don't want him to be in any position of authority over me though. Sorry if you take offense to that.
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Apr 22, 2015 22:11
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, “Every day, I serve food to some of the most powerful people on earth – including many of the senators who are running for president: I’m a cook for the federal contractor that runs the US Senate cafeteria. But today, they’ll have to get their meals from someone else’s hands, because I’m on strike. I am walking off my job because I want the presidential hopefuls to know that I live in poverty. Many senators canvas the country giving speeches about creating ‘opportunity’ for workers and helping our kids achieve the ‘American dream’ – most don’t seem to notice or care that workers in their own building are struggling to survive.” ~ Bertrand Olotara, Senate cook. I wish Mr. Olotara all the luck in finding a new job and weathering the blistering attacks on his work ethic and character from Steve Dooce.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, “Every day, I serve food to some of the most powerful people on earth – including many of the senators who are running for president: I’m a cook for the federal contractor that runs the US Senate cafeteria. But today, they’ll have to get their meals from someone else’s hands, because I’m on strike. I am walking off my job because I want the presidential hopefuls to know that I live in poverty. Many senators canvas the country giving speeches about creating ‘opportunity’ for workers and helping our kids achieve the ‘American dream’ – most don’t seem to notice or care that workers in their own building are struggling to survive.” ~ Bertrand Olotara, Senate cook.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, “Every day, I serve food to some of the most powerful people on earth – including many of the senators who are running for president: I’m a cook for the federal contractor that runs the US Senate cafeteria. But today, they’ll have to get their meals from someone else’s hands, because I’m on strike. I am walking off my job because I want the presidential hopefuls to know that I live in poverty. Many senators canvas the country giving speeches about creating ‘opportunity’ for workers and helping our kids achieve the ‘American dream’ – most don’t seem to notice or care that workers in their own building are struggling to survive.” ~ Bertrand Olotara, Senate cook. hey thanks for posting a single line from a loving article I posted last page
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:hey thanks for posting a single line from a loving article I posted last page Do you know the meaning of the words "Quote of the day"? I was wondering what the living expenses would be in that part of the country, and apparently average rent in Washington DC is $1881, which is not San Francisco bad but still pretty loving bad.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:hey thanks for posting a single line from a loving article I posted last page i got distracted by the hotdish
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Chamale posted:Do you know the meaning of the words "Quote of the day"? Man, there could be a book written about the hosed up policies that are leading to people being priced out of living in DC
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Apr 22, 2015 22:30
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"Well if he didn't want to live in abject poverty, struggling to survive and requiring government assistance, he should have gotten a real job like investment banker or senior engineer instead of a mindless idiot job like cafeteria chef" -someone probably
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:hey thanks for posting a single line from a loving article I posted last page Sorry man, you posted that while I was writing up the exciting hotdish news, so I missed it. No hard feelings. 
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Joementum posted:Sorry man, you posted that while I was writing up the exciting hotdish news, so I missed it. No hard feelings. WHat a cool white dude (very rare).
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zoux posted:
Take a picture of the modified exhaust.
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Apr 22, 2015 22:58
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Joementum posted:Sorry man, you posted that while I was writing up the exciting hotdish news, so I missed it. No hard feelings.  now I have to vote for this man, the coolest hep cat on the scene!
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Apr 22, 2015 23:12
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Joementum posted:Sorry man, you posted that while I was writing up the exciting hotdish news, so I missed it. No hard feelings. The sunglasses company that Rand likes to wear didn't appreciate being advertised in his store without permission. http://www.mediaite.com/online/ray-ban-bans-rand-pauls-ray-bans-over-brand-ban/ posted:Ray-Ban has asked Senator and 2016 GOP contender Rand Paul (R-KY) to remove its sunglasses from his amazing merch store, as it turned out Paul has been hawking his non-trademarked shades without the company’s permission.
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:Washington was built with slave labor at its founding and runs on slave labor today. Im sorry but a minimum wage adjusted for the cost of living in a given area is too much socialism for this America
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Marlamaid Swordhand posted:The sunglasses company that Rand likes to wear didn't appreciate being advertised in his store without permission. Washington politicians are unbelievably arrogant. They think of themselves as the center of the universe while simultaneously thinking they should be above the laws they create for everyone else. -Rand Paul Apparently he wasn't referring to trademark infringement.
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Stereotype posted:Washington politicians are unbelievably arrogant. They think of themselves as the center of the universe while simultaneously thinking they should be above the laws they create for everyone else. Rand Paul's key to 2016 victory is running against all which he is.
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Joementum posted:Quote of the day, “Every day, I serve food to some of the most powerful people on earth – including many of the senators who are running for president: I’m a cook for the federal contractor that runs the US Senate cafeteria. But today, they’ll have to get their meals from someone else’s hands, because I’m on strike. I am walking off my job because I want the presidential hopefuls to know that I live in poverty. Many senators canvas the country giving speeches about creating ‘opportunity’ for workers and helping our kids achieve the ‘American dream’ – most don’t seem to notice or care that workers in their own building are struggling to survive.” ~ Bertrand Olotara, Senate cook. Kind of amazes me how in Washington the city with more espionage agents per capita than any other city in the globe the federal government will try to bring on contractors that will pay the absolute barest minimum, especially so since in the past US persons that gave out information did so mainly for monetary gain. A cafeteria worker isn't going to be handle state secrets but an overheard detail heard here and there can add up.
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Chamale posted:
Yea i live here and i have a great job and make a living wage, and even I am sometimes blown away by what cost of living can be in Northen VA/DC/Lower MD or whatever the gently caress they call it
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Stereotype posted:"Well if he didn't want to live in abject poverty, struggling to survive and requiring government assistance, he should have gotten a real job like investment banker or senior engineer instead of a mindless idiot job like cafeteria chef" "Heh maybe the lazy poor should have gone to college." *Point out that he's a college graduate* *Goal posts shift to he should have gotten the right major, gone to the right college, networked, or started his own business into infinity*
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I don't see Clinton following up on any eat-the-rich rhetoric once she's in office. Campaigning is nice and all but every person here should be keenly aware that candidates and presidents are different animals.
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Apr 23, 2015 00:07
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Marlamaid Swordhand posted:The sunglasses company that Rand likes to wear didn't appreciate being advertised in his store without permission. Do sales of these things go to the campaign? If so, does a purchase of such a product count toward an individual's maximum donation? Otherwise, what's stopping a Koch bro from buying a $100M signed constitution from Rand's campaign?
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Do sales of these things go to the campaign? If so, does a purchase of such a product count toward an individual's maximum donation? Otherwise, what's stopping a Koch bro from buying a $100M signed constitution from Rand's campaign? Nothing except that they would probably have to disclose it somehow. They could probably buy a $100M signed constitution from Rand himself, except then he would be seen as a politican taking bribes and probably not elected. Instead they give the $100M to Americans For Good Things Forever PAC and it can just give it to the campaign, no need for a stupid signed constitution.
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Do sales of these things go to the campaign? If so, does a purchase of such a product count toward an individual's maximum donation? Otherwise, what's stopping a Koch bro from buying a $100M signed constitution from Rand's campaign? Rand Paul is whats preventing that contribution, and he knows it.
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TheQat posted:I don't see Clinton following up on any eat-the-rich rhetoric once she's in office. Campaigning is nice and all but every person here should be keenly aware that candidates and presidents are different animals. It's still nice to see income inequality being framed as the major focus of her campaign. Candidates always make promises they can't/won't make good on but there are 2-3 core principles that define a campaign which are only in very rare circumstance betrayed. If Clinton wants "topple the 1%" as the foundation of her platform it's almost certainly something she plans on adhering to after inauguration. Frankly her trying to get to the left of Warren this early on makes me hopeful of the course the campaigns will take.
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Do sales of these things go to the campaign? If so, does a purchase of such a product count toward an individual's maximum donation? Otherwise, what's stopping a Koch bro from buying a $100M signed constitution from Rand's campaign? quote:As transactions in the Rand Paul store are contributions to a political campaign and not a purchase of goods I suspect there's a law that allows you to deduct the fair market value of whatever you purchased for the purpose of maximums, but I can't find it. twodot fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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He didn't build that.
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"Stick around, ladies, cause when I'm done talking I'm gonna get in the Trans Am and ramp this bitch."
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Unzip and Attack posted:If that excuse works for your choice as President, then you've got some pretty low standards. When I think of POTUS qualifications, I definitely think of "buys into climate of fear" near the top of my list. Take a moment please and compare the responses to 9-11 of the senator from New York to that of the mayor of New York City. Giuliani developed a manic fixation after the 9-11 attacks leading into the first ever recorded case of 9-11 turretts syndrome. He both became virulently war mongering and sought to exploit the tragedy to advance his own career. Hillary Clinton, by comparison, acted in the heat of the moment and then reflected later on that choice in an adult manner. I have never heard so much as a whisper from her trying to claim her position as senator of New York during the attack as a reason to pay more attention to her. And she has flatly admitted that with the power of hindsight she understands that she was wrong. . I picked up her autobiography at an airport shortly after it came out and have been slowly reading through it in the last year. It's plodding. Obamas auto bio was a joy to read with an evocative narrative voice and I got through it in less than a week. It has taken me many times longer to get through Clinton's book than any other book I've ever read. I'm still not done with it. Anywho, she writes this about her Iraq vote: Hillary posted:I thought I had acted in good faith and made the best decision I could with the information I had. And I wasn't alone in getting it wrong. How many times have any of you ever seen a politician admit they done hosed up on something important with an actual admission of wrongdoing? That quote is one of the gems scattered throughout that brick - which spends far FAR to much ink on how rooms are decorated omg - that keeps me coming back to it periodically to read a bit more. Hillary posted:As the war dragged on, with every letter I sent to a family in New York who had lost a son or a daughter, a father or a mother, my mistake became more painful. But hey, who cares, right? Everyone who voted to go to war with the people they were told had murdered thousands of Americans in a surprise attack are completely the same. And people who've never been in situations like that and made choices they later regret are much better executives than inexperienced ideologues because
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TheQat posted:I don't see Clinton following up on any eat-the-rich rhetoric once she's in office. Campaigning is nice and all but every person here should be keenly aware that candidates and presidents are different animals. The real question is, how many folks are gonna get elected to Congress riding her campaign's rhetorical coat-tails? That answer determines enterly how likely Clinton is to follow through with rhetoric.
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