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Terper posted:Who would win, Goku or All Might? Supes can come too.
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Goku would spend 30 minutes powering up, which would use up all of All Might's power for the day.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 22:59 |
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they'd be friends and Goku would get One For All
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Ruggington posted:they'd be friends and Goku would get One For All I'm 99% sure Goku would turn it down
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 23:02 |
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I wonder if Bakugou's explosions would have had more of an effect on Nappa than Chiaotzu's.
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 23:16 |
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Bad Seafood posted:Trick question, they'd just hang out. GOKU MY BOY
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# ? Apr 22, 2015 23:44 |
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Stairmaster posted:does chichis helmet laser ignore power levels like the destructo disc Humans dont have as much default durability as saiyans even when they train and have to use their ki to block stuff. More reasons why humans should have pride over those cheating Saiyans.
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Darko posted:Humans dont have as much default durability as saiyans even when they train and have to use their ki to block stuff. More reasons why humans should have pride over those cheating Saiyans. According to DBO, in 1,000 years, all humans are somewhat saiyan so it's a moot point.
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 00:09 |
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Terper posted:You can wear it in Xenoverse, and if you do and Android 18 is your master, she goes "woah ok not cool" The worst part is if you don't commit to loot grinding it seems to be the best outfit for physical attackers.
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Rodyle posted:The worst part is if you don't commit to loot grinding it seems to be the best outfit for physical attackers. Oh God, didn't know that. I thought we were over the era of women fighters having chainmail bikinis.
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Rodyle posted:The worst part is if you don't commit to loot grinding it seems to be the best outfit for physical attackers. Pretty sure there are better outfits to buy. Of the top of my head I think the Wild Rider outfit is the best all-race outfit for strikes.
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 00:28 |
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Eh, Broly,Bardock and 18 are better. edit: Oh yeah, and Bulma's Wild Rider outfit.
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 00:28 |
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More on Time and the Toriyama Each panel in a comic represents a length of time passing. In isolation, a single square-shaped panel with one focal point lasts some unit of time in our minds, which I will call a beat. Adding other focal points adds more beats, as does adding dialog - the more dialog, the longer the beat. Since our mind takes in a speech balloon as one unit of time, splitting dialog into more than one separate balloon lengthens the time we perceive as passing - often necessary because if a character's balloon is a huge wall of text it seems overwhelming, like they're rattling all that off without moving or pausing. Even so, sometimes splitting balloons isn't enough to stop a wall of text from being dumb. Um, so he's just frozen there with his hand in that position the entire time he's saying all that? Well OK. Additionally, in comics panels that are long horizontally with relation to the width of the page are seen as lasting a greater period of time, so panels that stretch across the entire width of the page are seen as lasting the greatest amount of time. These long horizontal panels function in a similar way to a horizontal panning shot in cinema. Panels that are very long vertically (stretching across 2/3rds or more of the height of the page) can also be seen as depicting a longer period of time than surrounding panels, but the effect is weaker and there is greater risk of confusing the reader because it can often be read that whatever is happening in the vertical panel continues to happen as the stuff in the panels to the right or left of it is happening. A long thin vertical panel is most often used to provide us a full-body shot of a character so we can admire their awesome body or costume or whatever and it's meant to function in a similar way to a vertical pan in cinema. It's best used when it's safe to assume whatever is happening in the vertical panel continues to happen during the horizontal panels that sit next to it. I personally am not a big fan because usually once you get below the waist (heh) the design isn't that interesting and the reader's eyes will wander away, and I've seen it used way too many times right next to panels where the featured character then starts doing something, which makes their vertical panel have a weird overlay effect, like I'm watching a flashback or something (in fact I've seen vertical panels used deliberately to take sections "out of time.") Probably safe to assume here that 17 continues to stand around while Piccolo clenches his fists n' stuff. A panel that has several focal points, especially one in which the artist has included "pointers" to force your eye to sweep in a zig-zag pattern across it, is also meant to depict a longer duration of time, and works similarly to a sequence shot in film. In a comic panel, every direction change in the sweep of your eye adds more time to the duration of the shot. This technique is generally suitable for establishing shots meant to show a chaotic scene and should be used sparingly - it's often not easy to tell at a first glance what the reader should focus on next after absorbing each individual focal point, so if the artist relies on this too much, the reader will feel exhausted and just start skimming. In summary, to lengthen the period of time a panel is perceived to depict:
So a panel like this is one that we would perceive as depicting a comparatively long stretch of time: Note that it is one page width long, has three disparate elements, and also includes speech bubbles. So as we read from the right edge to the left, we read the huffing and puffing of Roshi, see Roshi, read his next huffing and puffing, see that Krillin is jogging, also huffing and puffing, Goku is jogging, yes, huffing and puffing, and then we see background elements, as if we are stationary observers and these three characters have run past us - and at the moment we observe the palm tree, they are still running (audibly so, too, since Goku's last huff/puff trails behind him slightly.) Let's look at the beginning of Chapter 30, the part I skipped before.
And now the grand creepshot, Goku stands watching as Roshi hovers his finger over the prone form of a woman who was beaten unconscious. My final remark, on the last panel (also an establishing shot) we are meant to perceive Roshi as continuing to speak the dialog that's in his balloons while Goku and Krillin look on, even if our eyes don't sweep over them until after reading Roshi's dialog. That's the magic of comics - your brain stitches it together for you automatically. Xibanya fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Emong posted:Pretty sure there are better outfits to buy. Of the top of my head I think the Wild Rider outfit is the best all-race outfit for strikes. Never found or unlocked that, but I never got past Beerus and Whis I did spend a lot of that game with no pants though. S'what I get for trying to be physical only character I guess! Rody One Half fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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I've never seen Dragonball, why is Kame House in a field and not on the island?
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New Leaf posted:I've never seen Dragonball, why is Kame House in a field and not on the island? He moved it to train them. It fits in a capsule.
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Rodyle posted:Never found or unlocked that, but I never got past Beerus and Whis I played a physical-only Namekian and beat them my first try (The secret is Blue Hurricane.)
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Emong posted:I played a physical-only Namekian and beat them my first try I did that with literally the same build...sans blue hurricane. 100 in Basic Attack is all you need!
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 02:54 |
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Also random thought about the new movie: If the new form is just God-powered Super Saiyan, couldn't Goku just go SSJ3 using the same trick to be stupidly strong?
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 02:58 |
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Wouldn't he burn out faster than SSJ4 Gogeta, though
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Raserys posted:Wouldn't he burn out faster than SSJ4 Gogeta, though Most likely. So I hosed up and didn't pick up the S.H. Figuarts Freiza when I had the chance, and now it's commanding upwards of $200. What is the likely-hood of any of these getting a reprint or something? I saw they have Datong rejects for Vegeta that I've seen comparisons for and they are close enough for me. Just gotta snag a cheap'ish one on eBay. Haven't seen anything from them for Freiza, and I am kicking myself for not spending the $40 when I had the chance. Already in for Vegetto though at least.
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Emong posted:Also random thought about the new movie: If the new form is just God-powered Super Saiyan, couldn't Goku just go SSJ3 using the same trick to be stupidly strong? Any form above standard Super Saiyan at this point is horribly inefficient and would burn out in a second. It's a similar reason why Trunks going The Rock against Cell was a bad idea and why Freeza never used his full power if he could avoid it
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 04:04 |
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I hope they do reprints on the figuarts. The Cell and Android 18 ones look amazing compared to all the other figures released for them, but they are expensive as gently caress since they are out of print.
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Rirse posted:I hope they do reprints on the figuarts. The Cell and Android 18 ones look amazing compared to all the other figures released for them, but they are expensive as gently caress since they are out of print. I'm hoping they legit announce Nappa soon, because I'm trying currently to get a Vegeta, and a Nappa to go with would be amazing. E: Well gently caress me, a seller put up the SDCC Original Colors Vegeta for 29.99 and it broke me. Yes it's inevitably a knock off obviously, but the comparison videos show it to be almost exactly the same anyway. My wife even said she liked those colors better. I'm totally still keeping an eye out for a regular one as well though. Drowning Rabbit fucked around with this message at 04:29 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Covok posted:According to DBO, in 1,000 years, all humans are somewhat saiyan so it's a moot point. From what I recall, it's not quite that. All the PLAYABLE humans have a little bit of space monkey in them by Age 1000, there are many others without it. And they need Shenron's help to unlock just basic Super Saiyan anyway.
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# ? Apr 23, 2015 06:10 |
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Watched the last episode of Dragon Ball and quite liked that series overall. I did enjoy the filler part at the end with Goku and Chi-Chi since she never gets to do anything in Dragon Ball Z, so it nice for her to go on a adventure with Goku for a change. That said, I don't know how many times they reused the animation of Ox-King running down a hallway that is on fire.
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Drowning Rabbit posted:I'm hoping they legit announce Nappa soon, because I'm trying currently to get a Vegeta, and a Nappa to go with would be amazing. My experience with knock-offs is that they are often flawed in very annoying ways. One nendoroid I ordered had a skirt that didn't fit and the entire thing fell apart, arms falling off, the accessories didn't fit in her hands and the entire thing smelled really weird. Like it was dunked in chlorine or something.
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Xibanya posted:Stuff about the sense of time in comics Of course I would be remiss not to mention Dragonball Z here, the anime being notorious for things taking forever (e.g. the infamous "five minutes" on Namek). As I understand it, much of that is filler and padding that was added because the anime was catching up to the manga too quickly. That's basically the other side of the same coin. Putting a comic's events into real time and formatting it for TV slots can result in things being resolved much more efficiently than they were in the source material. The fundamental differences in format mean not everything always translates well from one to the other.
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Makes me wonder how the Deadpool movie will turn out.
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Alpha3KV posted:Animated adaptations can really highlight when characters are talking for too long. I've recently seen some of the Marvel Super Heroes cartoons from the 60's. These were essentially slideshows of comic panels with audible voices in place of speech bubbles and minimal animation. It always looks kind of silly, but never more than when somebody has a monologue. That's when you can get over half a minute of a static image on screen with only the mouth moving. I remember some old retsupurae featuring a flash animation of a webcomic that pointed out this happening. The current JoJo anime has also occasionally had moments where there's just a close-up of a character's face as they monologue while some deadly attack is coming their way. This is specially ridiculous in sports anime, where it makes it look like the field is several miles long. Nice work as always, Xibanya, I never realized plenty of those things, like how the close up of Goku and Lunch helps the reader feel the awkwardness of the situation. It's a lot of things you know that work but it's hard to explain why.
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So I was trying to help out a friends art so I showed them Xibanya's thing to tell them when there done detailing their characters to try silhouette's to see if they look visually distinct in comic form. She seemed to think it was stupid because "The only reason you can tell Goku and Krillin apart is Goku's poofy hair if you switched them for one panel you wouldn't be able to tell the difference." It was a... very long argument with no real resolution.
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That seems like she missed a key point.
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Mordaedil posted:My experience with knock-offs is that they are often flawed in very annoying ways. One nendoroid I ordered had a skirt that didn't fit and the entire thing fell apart, arms falling off, the accessories didn't fit in her hands and the entire thing smelled really weird. Like it was dunked in chlorine or something. For less than 1/4 the price, I'm rolling the dice. Hoping for the best.
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Mordaedil posted:That seems like she missed a key point. Yeah I know. She also tried to argue Tarble and Gohan from Yo! Son Goku looked the same. I offered "Are you sure you don't mean Vegeta and Tarble?" Nope. Adamant that Gohan and Tarble looked the same.... if you only accounted for their heads. She was very determined to only account for the heads. The thing is she didn't have a bad drawing though rather generic and rough http://puu.sh/hnTnp/aee6ff86d6.jpg (Not image linked because it's not relevent) and I was just try to help.
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Drowning Rabbit posted:Most likely. I'm really, really lucky to have all of these.... I managed to pick up Vegeta and Trunks at an anime con last year for a "mere" $100 each. These figures go for INSANE prices on the aftermarket. I really, really regret not getting Saiyan Saga Vegeta when I had the chance. Now he's like $250! Also, supposedly the only ones that can ever be re-released are Goku, Piccolo and Gohan, because all the rest are Tamashii web exclusives. They did reissue Goku and Piccolo recently, and Gohan is coming out soon. I got 16 and 17 recently, because if I didn't get them NOW, then I'd have to pay crazy prices for them. Hell, I thought of picking of Broly for that reason, and I don't even LIKE Broly. I believe the upcoming figures are Vegito, Super Buu (Gohan Absorbed) and Super Buu (Gotenks absorbed). The selection for Buu strikes me as really odd, because when I think of Buu, I think of Fat Buu, regular Super Buu or Kid Buu, not his absorbed forms. What I really want are Fat Buu, Kid Buu, Great Saiyaman and Videl. Oh, and Hercule of course.
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Onmi posted:So I was trying to help out a friends art so I showed them Xibanya's thing to tell them when there done detailing their characters to try silhouette's to see if they look visually distinct in comic form. She seemed to think it was stupid because "The only reason you can tell Goku and Krillin apart is Goku's poofy hair if you switched them for one panel you wouldn't be able to tell the difference." Let her know that Toriyama used to be a graphic designer making ads and was already a manga veteran by this point. Ask her "can you think of why Toriyama may have decided to make Goku and Krillin have similar body types on purpose?" My next effort post is going to be on externals so this ties in rather well.
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Gammatron 64 posted:I'm really, really lucky to have all of these.... Super jealous. I don't go to anime conventions so I kind of miss out on that market. I would most look forward to Nappa (They had a sculpt on display somewhere?!), Kid Buu, and Super 17. Looks like I'll probably have to keep an eye out for a decent Perfect Cell/17/18/Freiza at least. Goku/Piccolo I can hopefully grab on some re-release. Or maybe new sculpts.
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Drowning Rabbit posted:Super jealous. I don't go to anime conventions so I kind of miss out on that market. I would most look forward to Nappa (They had a sculpt on display somewhere?!), Kid Buu, and Super 17. Looks like I'll probably have to keep an eye out for a decent Perfect Cell/17/18/Freiza at least. I got roped into doing a panel about gunpla at an anime con this year. Someone told me "hey, you're gonna do this with me" and I'm like "well... okay. This is gonna be... yeah." I've gone to Animazement and another local one for the dealer rooms pretty much. Haven't ever gone into any panels because they are almost always terrible. Also there are a LOT of weird people there. This is me at an anime con: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_bYePrGpIg (I'm not actually Mike Stoklasa I'm just his clone)
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Onmi posted:Yeah I know. She also tried to argue Tarble and Gohan from Yo! Son Goku looked the same. I offered "Are you sure you don't mean Vegeta and Tarble?" Nope. Adamant that Gohan and Tarble looked the same.... if you only accounted for their heads. She was very determined to only account for the heads. Alternatively tell her "the only reason you can tell Batman and Superman apart is that they look different " Is your friend 16? Because that's how I drew when I was in high school. An OK start but watch out for that cargo cult thinking. (A good start would be having that character take a pose that better shows their personality.)
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Gammatron 64 posted:I got roped into doing a panel about gunpla at an anime con this year. Someone told me "hey, you're gonna do this with me" and I'm like "well... okay. This is gonna be... yeah." I've gone to PAX East as I'm way more into video games than anime in general, so I'm aware of the awkwardness at Cons, but I would assume that it's only heightened so much more with the subject being Anime. We have Anime Boston over here that I should try at least once I guess.
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