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haveblue posted:Everyone was worried that Tom Wheeler's history would make him side with cable companies and telcos, but it looks like it left a bad taste in his mouth. Its been really suprising how much Wheeler has worked against his previous industry and more in favor of the public view
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Stultus Maximus posted:All LSU needs to do is include elimination of football in the paperwork and Jindal will be tarred, feathered, and dumped in a bayou.
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Unzip and Attack posted:Getting UBL and drawing down the wars will also be huge. The narrative of "Bush poo poo the bed, Obama cleaned it up" is pretty much how history is going to remember the first two decades of this century.
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Fried Chicken posted:Petraeus sentence handed down: 2 years probation, $100,000 fine Should have been given more time than Manning IMO.
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Maarek posted:flying killbots Why all the emphasis on drones? I don't see any convincing reason there'd be fewer targeted killings without them, and using drones minimizes the public pressure to escalate because "we can't let our heroes die in vain  ".Also drones have huge potential civilian applications compared to other military technology.
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Fried Chicken posted:Petraeus sentence handed down: 2 years probation, $100,000 fine For the record the Obama administration has given people effective life sentences for less than he did.
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James Garfield posted:Why all the emphasis on drones? I don't see any convincing reason there'd be fewer targeted killings without them, and using drones minimizes the public pressure to escalate because "we can't let our heroes die in vain Because some people believe that instead drones make it easy to give the go ahead for a strike because you know no US lives are in danger.
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People use terms like "flying killbots" to describe them. It's pretty self-evident what the fears stem from (hint: it isn't rational deliberation).
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JT Jag posted:If you factor in foreign policy Obama might top LBJ overall, for obvious reasons. "Not doing Vietnam" is an accomplishment shared by every modern President, except George W. Bush*. *Arguably Nixon too, but tough to say since he inherited it.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Colleges are (supposedly) full of smart people, surely someone there understands they have something to bargain with. Football at major schools is supposedly self funding and often pays back into general revenues, or so they say, at least. How much of that is an accounting lie I have no idea. But with TV contacts and licensing deals and bowl payouts and of course ticket sales and concession contracts I could believe it.
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James Garfield posted:Why all the emphasis on drones? I don't see any convincing reason there'd be fewer targeted killings without them, and using drones minimizes the public pressure to escalate because "we can't let our heroes die in vain ReidRansom posted:Football at major schools is supposedly self funding and often pays back into general revenues, or so they say, at least. How much of that is an accounting lie I have no idea. But with TV contacts and licensing deals and bowl payouts and of course ticket sales and concession contracts I could believe it. JT Jag fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Fried Chicken posted:Petraeus sentence handed down: 2 years probation, $100,000 fine So...effectively no punishment.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:"Not doing Vietnam" is an accomplishment shared by every modern President, except George W. Bush*. I think campaigning on ending the war but then escalating it is pretty heinous and enough to include Nixon with LBJ and Bush there I mean yes it was less ground troops and more massive bombing campaigns but that's still war One could make the same argument about Obama I guess
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:"Not doing Vietnam" is an accomplishment shared by every modern President, except George W. Bush*. He got into office promising to get end the war (albeit "with honor") but was scheming to expand it even before he took office. No way in hell Nixon gets a pass.
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Trabisnikof posted:Because some people believe that instead drones make it easy to give the go ahead for a strike because you know no US lives are in danger. Yeah but on the flip side a drone can loiter over a target area much longer and wait for a better time than just dropping a bomb the second it shows up since there's actually a pilot inside. I mean yeah, weddings getting blown the gently caress up obviously needs to be cut down but the ability for drones to loiter over an area far longer than most planes can in addition to giving zero fucks about pilot safety means that they're both gathering intel and the larger/later drones can act on that instead of making strikes against people that are either no longer there or moved a meeting because of the intelligence to strike lag. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:"Not doing Vietnam" is an accomplishment shared by every modern President, except George W. Bush*. Technically Eisenhower started it, Kennedy inherited it, and LBJ expanded it.
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my bony fealty posted:I think campaigning on ending the war but then escalating it is pretty heinous and enough to include Nixon with LBJ and Bush there
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:"Not doing Vietnam" is an accomplishment shared by every modern President, except George W. Bush*. Nixon sabotaged peace talks during the election, so he really has only himself to blame for inheriting it.
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SubponticatePoster posted:Colleges are (supposedly) full of smart people, surely someone there understands they have something to bargain with. When someone says that colleges have smart people they aren't talking about the administration.
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my bony fealty posted:I think campaigning on ending the war but then escalating it is pretty heinous and enough to include Nixon with LBJ and Bush there If Obama had, say, secretly staged massive attacks on Syria back in 2010 or so, then perhaps.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:If Obama had, say, secretly staged massive attacks on Syria back in 2010 or so, then perhaps.
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sugar free jazz posted:When someone says that colleges have smart people they aren't talking about the administration. I tend to think it's more the case that public universities are at the behest of their states' legislatures and often find their hands tied.
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JT Jag posted:The good old days before the internet and social media, when you could conduct a massive bombing campaign of a country and maintain a complete news blackout on the subject at home. Now you have to go through all the effort of wagging the dog every single time.
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James Garfield posted:Why all the emphasis on drones? I don't see any convincing reason there'd be fewer targeted killings without them, and using drones minimizes the public pressure to escalate because "we can't let our heroes die in vain The point of my post wasn't that "Obama is using drones to blow people up" but "Obama is using drones to blow people up" as a thing that a lot of people who voted for him aren't in favor of and shouldn't be held accountable for. All the emphasis on the drones themselves is due to the fact that they are some crazy science fiction stuff and you'll probably need to wait a generation or so before people get used to robots whirring around lobbing bombs at people.
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chitoryu12 posted:So...effectively no punishment. Patraeus makes more than that in annual retirement pay. So...
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Remember when Patraeus was seen as a serious potential Democratic presidential candidate
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JT Jag posted:Remember when Patraeus was seen as a serious potential Democratic presidential candidate What seriously? He never struck me as liberal. Mullen on the other hand...
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JT Jag posted:Remember when Patraeus was seen as a serious potential Democratic presidential candidate When was this?
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Boon posted:What seriously?
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evilweasel posted:Comcast is giving up its attempt to merge with TWC, which is another win for the Obama Administration's revitalization of antitrust enforcement. The deal probably would have sailed through the Bush DOJ. This is great news. I am not in love with TWC, it's customer service record, nor the way they are slow to offer increased services depending on if Google is in the area, that said they have been a much better company than many of the horror stories people have peddled about Comcast for years. What an awful mess that would have led to. I'm sure Comcast will try again in some form. Hope Obama's anti-trust influences rub off on Clinton.
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JT Jag posted:Remember when Patraeus was seen as a serious potential Democratic presidential candidate I don't remember musings about his potential as being particularly serious.
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Maarek posted:The point of my post wasn't that "Obama using drones to blow people up" but "Obama using drones to blow people up" as a thing that a lot of people who voted for him aren't in favor of and shouldn't be held accountable for. All the emphasis on the drones themselves is due to the fact that they are some crazy science fiction stuff and you'll probably need to wait a generation or so before people get used to robots whirring around lobbing bombs at people. What's science fiction about an RC plane with a camera and broadband? Not like they're shooting weapons that manned planes haven't been shooting for years or using targeting systems that manned planes haven't been using for years or anything like that. poo poo, you can fly drones yourself if you want to. (obviously without targeting or weapons)
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JT Jag posted:Remember when Patraeus was seen as a serious potential Democratic presidential candidate Did you mean Wesley Clark?
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ReidRansom posted:Football at major schools is supposedly self funding and often pays back into general revenues, or so they say, at least. How much of that is an accounting lie I have no idea. But with TV contacts and licensing deals and bowl payouts and of course ticket sales and concession contracts I could believe it. http://businessofcollegesports.com/2014/10/03/most-profitable-college-football-programs-5-lsu/ If you want an interesting read on the subject, I suggest checking out Big-Time Sports in American Universities. It talks about the amazing successes of these huge programs and how they've inspired smaller programs to blow stupid amounts of cash and goodwill on a pursuit with worse odds for financial success than a craps table.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I don't remember musings about his potential as being particularly serious. If not for the whole scandal, it would have been pretty funny to see Republicans trying to call him unpatriotic. The schadenfreude alone would have been worth it.
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yeah Petraeus was never a serious candidate for president, nor was it ever particularly clear what party he favored
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Captain_Maclaine posted:If Obama had, say, secretly staged massive attacks on Syria back in 2010 or so, then perhaps. Will Yemen work?
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JT Jag posted:Remember when Patraeus was seen as a serious potential Democratic presidential candidate No, but I remember when Fox tried to Citizen Kane him quote:o in spring 2011, Ailes asked a Fox News analyst headed to Afghanistan to pass on his thoughts to Petraeus, who was then the commander of U.S. and coalition forces there. Petraeus, Ailes advised, should turn down an expected offer from President Obama to become CIA director and accept nothing less than the chairmanship of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the top military post. If Obama did not offer the Joint Chiefs post, Petraeus should resign from the military and run for president, Ailes suggested.
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Riptor posted:yeah Petraeus was never a serious candidate for president, nor was it ever particularly clear what party he favored There were serious rumblings from Republicans because well, look who's in the field now.
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JT Jag posted:Remember when Patraeus was seen as a serious potential Democratic presidential candidate That's Clark, Petraeus was batted about as a Republican nom
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Fried Chicken posted:Will Yemen work? If it descends into Khmer Rouge-levels of nightmarish pariah state, I'll give Obama halfsies on it.
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