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The Moon Monster posted:Yup, I stopped the game because doing any sidequests would necessitate a ton of grinding to get past those things. But it's easy, first you grind Auron and get his superweapon, then you fight Fenris in the monster arena until everyone has 255 agility, then you fight One-Eye in the arena until you have 255 strength, and triple AP weapons, then you grind out Doors to Tomorrow until you have Triple Overdrive and grind out Candles until you have Overdrive-AP, then you capture 10 of everything in the Omega Ruins and fight Don Tonberry until everyone has a zillion HP(after fighting Ironclad for HP spheres), then you can beat Dark Braaaaaap or whatever. Easy peasy.
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counterfeitpinecone posted:Somebody on here once pointed out that you start the game being outfitted by Sarif with probably millions of dollars worth of experimental military-grade combat augmentations then spend the rest of it scavenging 10mm bullets from abandoned petrol stations and corpses, 4 rounds at a time Because augment yourself all you want, you can never escape capitalism maaaaan
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Human Revolution is practically a retelling of Robocop and it had the exact same gag where they spend billions building Robo and then send him out patrolling in a lovely Ford Taurus that bottoms out when he drives out of the police station.
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Apr 23, 2015 22:21
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im pooping! posted:But it's easy, first you grind Auron and get his superweapon, then you fight Fenris in the monster arena until everyone has 255 agility, then you fight One-Eye in the arena until you have 255 strength, and triple AP weapons, then you grind out Doors to Tomorrow until you have Triple Overdrive and grind out Candles until you have Overdrive-AP, then you capture 10 of everything in the Omega Ruins and fight Don Tonberry until everyone has a zillion HP(after fighting Ironclad for HP spheres), then you can beat Dark Braaaaaap or whatever. Easy peasy. Are there people that actually think that's fun? poo poo like that is why I miss gamesharks and action replays.
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Apr 23, 2015 22:47
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Len posted:Are there people that actually think that's fun? poo poo like that is why I miss gamesharks and action replays. I thought it was fun when I was 17 and had homework to do...
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Apr 23, 2015 22:52
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Walton Simons posted:I don't wanna I'm deeply sorry that GTA Online is literally the first game ever to be frontloaded with poo poo you have to do as part of the tutorial.
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Apr 23, 2015 22:53
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Sleeveless posted:Human Revolution is practically a retelling of Robocop and it had the exact same gag where they spend billions building Robo and then send him out patrolling in a lovely Ford Taurus that bottoms out when he drives out of the police station. Jenson isn't literally robot-Jesus though. And Robby seems to have infinite ammo, anyway. It's just the babyfood he's jonesing for.
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Lizard Wizard posted:I'm deeply sorry that GTA Online is literally the first game ever to be frontloaded with poo poo you have to do as part of the tutorial. Hahaha, what? I'm not picking on poor old GTA, I think it's generally ace, but that bit is pretty annoying. Also, I expect the frontloading, it's being made to watch the unskippable cutscene three times that's the worst. Walton Simons has a new favorite as of 23:20 on Apr 23, 2015 |
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Apr 23, 2015 23:06
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im pooping! posted:But it's easy, first you grind Auron and get his superweapon, then you fight Fenris in the monster arena until everyone has 255 agility, then you fight One-Eye in the arena until you have 255 strength, and triple AP weapons, then you grind out Doors to Tomorrow until you have Triple Overdrive and grind out Candles until you have Overdrive-AP, then you capture 10 of everything in the Omega Ruins and fight Don Tonberry until everyone has a zillion HP(after fighting Ironclad for HP spheres), then you can beat Dark Braaaaaap or whatever. Easy peasy. one-shotting the last boss with Yojimbo by accident certainly did not drag the game down
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Apr 23, 2015 23:15
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Len posted:I ran into a dark Yojimbo. He wasn't as poo poo as the Magus Sisters. First killed Lulu, second Auron, and then the third did their overdrive on Wakka who was the only person standing. He ate 7 hits at 99,999 each. Wasted a shitload of my time too because I only needed one hit to game over me but I had to watch the whole thing. It's been ages since I played just because of this bullshit. Iirc, though, if you can manage to kill off at least one of the sisters, they can't delta attack you and wreck your poo poo.
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Apr 24, 2015 00:39
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Walton Simons posted:Hahaha, what? I'm not picking on poor old GTA, I think it's generally ace, but that bit is pretty annoying. That sentiment, I can appreciate. It just seemed as though you were going to refuse to play GTAO in light of an unskippable cutscene, which struck me as silly.
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I've only played FFX on the original release and managed to stumble around and get every summon but didn't bother with some of the weapons and mini games. Blitz was okay with Jecht Shot and lightning dodge was somehow fruiting and also zen. The thing that brought the game down for me was Khimari. He's a huge cool blue cat man with such a poorly defined role, it's hilarious. His place on the board means he's supposed to be your blue mage but blue magic sucks a huge cock. Diverting him over to a different section helps but he's never as strong as Auron, fast as Tidus or the magical potency of Lulu. poo poo, even Wakka has a spot on some of my team makeups.
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Inzombiac posted:The thing that brought the game down for me was Khimari. He's a huge cool blue cat man with such a poorly defined role, it's hilarious. His place on the board means he's supposed to be your blue mage but blue magic sucks a huge cock. Diverting him over to a different section helps but he's never as strong as Auron, fast as Tidus or the magical potency of Lulu. poo poo, even Wakka has a spot on some of my team makeups. He's definitely a big wasted opportunity. You could definitely leave him out and no one would notice. Len posted:These dark aeons in FFX remaster can go gently caress themselves. I'll be exploring and BOOM suddenly I'm getting my poo poo kicked in by an optional boss that gets an ambush and hits for 99,999. This killed me back in the PS2 days. Trying to go back to the first village to get the item from the Chamber of the Fayth Dark Valefor blew my face off. I love FFX to death, and used to play through FF games once then go back with a guide to get everything but the grind is utterly insane in that game. Putting what should be optional bosses as roadblocks to endgame exploration is just the lovely cherry on top of the poo poo sundae.
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Apr 24, 2015 01:58
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Len posted:These dark aeons in FFX remaster can go gently caress themselves. I'll be exploring and BOOM suddenly I'm getting my poo poo kicked in by an optional boss that gets an ambush and hits for 99,999. Are they really that easy to accidentally run into? I always liked the FF1-6 remake's new content, because it was all really clearly signposted and discernible bonus dungeons, you could avoid them easily if you wanted.
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Apr 24, 2015 03:51
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Thing dragging down every final Fantasy after 4 Remakes that don't also increase your damage cap to at least 99,999
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MysticalMachineGun posted:He's definitely a big wasted opportunity. You could definitely leave him out and no one would notice. At least with all of them but Dark Yojimbo you could just summon Yojimbo and pay him to instakill them.
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Apr 24, 2015 05:04
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Len posted:I ran into a dark Yojimbo. He wasn't as poo poo as the Magus Sisters. First killed Lulu, second Auron, and then the third did their overdrive on Wakka who was the only person standing. He ate 7 hits at 99,999 each. Wasted a shitload of my time too because I only needed one hit to game over me but I had to watch the whole thing. I have never played FFX. Is this a post making fun of the game, or is it serious?
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Apr 24, 2015 05:06
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Tiberius Thyben posted:I have never played FFX. Is this a post making fun of the game, or is it serious? He ran into a -probably, I'm assuming- postgame boss that wiped his entire team but made him sit and watch a minute-long animation before the last one was given permission to die. It's absolutely serious.
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Cleretic posted:Are they really that easy to accidentally run into? I always liked the FF1-6 remake's new content, because it was all really clearly signposted and discernible bonus dungeons, you could avoid them easily if you wanted. Yeah, the absolutely are. They're only in the re-release/international versions but basically with absolutely no warning or game indication they'll spawn in areas you've already cleared that often guard treasure you'll want for the endgame/postgame that you might not have realized was even there your first time through. Basically. if you don't have a guide open and obsessively follow it things that were very simple back-tracks to get good gear and enjoyable sidequests in the original release become locked off to you by super-bosses unless you're either willing to do a shitload of grinding or like someone else mentioned abuse the ever living bejeesus out of the Yojimbo summon to instagib them.
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If I remember correctly you can totally get to all those places again before the Dark Aeons show up, it's just you won't have the airship yet and it will require walking all the way back along the course of the entire game so far. Fairly designed! 
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RareAcumen posted:He ran into a -probably, I'm assuming- postgame boss that wiped his entire team but made him sit and watch a minute-long animation before the last one was given permission to die. And when you get them as a summon yourself, they have the same animation. Once you are that overpowered, just basic attacks can kill most things quicker than their attack animation. Magus sisters are The Worst.
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Cleretic posted:Are they really that easy to accidentally run into? I always liked the FF1-6 remake's new content, because it was all really clearly signposted and discernible bonus dungeons, you could avoid them easily if you wanted. The ones I've run into went like this. Re-entered Besaid. The second you enter Besaid it goes to a cutscene of a guy summoning Valefor and then combat happens. For me he got the first move and did an overdrive for 99,999. Walking down mushroom rock there's two NPCs. Suddenly they start chasing you. A third then shows up for a different direction. If they touch you then you're fighting the magus sisters. Yojimbo appears when you try to leave the Cavern of Stolen Fayth but at least for him you can just leave.
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RareAcumen posted:He ran into a -probably, I'm assuming- postgame boss that wiped his entire team but made him sit and watch a minute-long animation before the last one was given permission to die. Not just postgame, they're like Ruby Weapon in FFVII in that its an optional hard boss fight. I never cared for Magus Sisters so I always just skip the fight. And if you think their animation goes on forever, there's always Knights of the Round 
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Zaphod42 posted:Not just postgame, they're like Ruby Weapon in FFVII in that its an optional hard boss fight. I'm pretty sure the only way to beat the Ruby Weapon was cast Knights of the Round for over an hour straight.
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m.hache posted:I'm pretty sure the only way to beat the Ruby Weapon was cast Knights of the Round for over an hour straight. I remember thinking KOTR was soooo cool when I first got it. Then I did the Sephiroth fight and used it for like an hour straight, and it sucked all the enjoyment right out.
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Apr 24, 2015 16:44
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Lookit all these little bitch-rear end Americans never grew up with Dark Aeons everywhere.
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All this talk of yojimbo made me look up Gilgamesh from FFVIII. Because I liked the way he looked and forgot how he was acquired what he did. .. and I found out apparently he is a dimensional hopping something and is the same character throughout all the FF games and has a storyline and wow why did I ever think poo poo like this was cool.
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ZeusCannon posted:All this talk of yojimbo made me look up Gilgamesh from FFVIII. Because I liked the way he looked and forgot how he was acquired what he did. In all fairness, Greg is a pretty awesome character in FFXIV.
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Zaphod42 posted:Not just postgame, they're like Ruby Weapon in FFVII in that its an optional hard boss fight. The pain in the rear end thing is that instead of creating new areas for them when they were added they stuck them in existing areas. So they're blocking off a bunch of much lower level content.
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ZeusCannon posted:All this talk of yojimbo made me look up Gilgamesh from FFVIII. Because I liked the way he looked and forgot how he was acquired what he did. Because it is?
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ZeusCannon posted:All this talk of yojimbo made me look up Gilgamesh from FFVIII. Because I liked the way he looked and forgot how he was acquired what he did. Sorry but Gilly is cool and good and you are a nerd if you don't love him
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Gotta remember, grinding that poo poo in FFX was the "cool" thing to do back then. This is the age of Everquest and intentionally hard games because hard=fun. So hells yes I got all the summons and some of the legendary weapons in that game. And hells yes in hindsight it was boring and stupid grinding. But we can all agree that Kimahri Ronso was dumb. I remember beating the game and there was a final cut scene showcasing each character doing some move and then he came up and I'm like "wait wtf is that?!" and had to go online and look it up to remember that he was still in my party lol. Jastiger has a new favorite as of 20:10 on Apr 24, 2015 |
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Please refer to him by his full name of Kimahri Ronso.
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"Oh an NPC I don't remember standing in the middle of the thunder plains? I'll go talk to him." Dark Ixion out of nowhere. Two turns back to pack killing Auron and Tidus. Wakka gets to act. Thankfully running is a thing I can do.
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oldpainless posted:Please refer to him by his full name of Kimahri Ronso.  My favorite Dark Aeon experience? Going back to Yunalesca's boss chamber to get the crest for Tidus' ultimate weapon on my first playthrough and OUT OF loving NOWHERE IT'S DARK BAHAMUT  At least some of the Dark Aeons are in out of the way places and/or require you to talk to an NPC first, but having others just sitting there guarding important items is complete bullshit.
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Jastiger posted:intentionally hard games
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Jastiger posted:Gotta remember, grinding that poo poo in FFX was the "cool" thing to do back then. This is the age of Everquest and intentionally hard games because hard=fun. I beat the original US version of FFX about as much as possible, filling up the sphere grid for most characters and killing Nemesis in the monster arena. By that point you can kill the final boss by half-heartedly whacking him with Yuna's staff to do a 99,999 damage overkill. The "some of the legendary weapons" part of your post stands out the most since even though I did just about everything else, gently caress dodging the lightning bolts in the Thunder Plains to get Lulu's ultimate weapon and gently caress catching those butterflies for Kimahri's. Spending hours running up and down a single patch of land to catch 10 of the same dumb bird is nothing compared to the frustration of either of those.
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Mister Adequate posted:Sorry but Gilly is cool and good and you are a nerd if you don't love him Its less that the FF8 Gilgamesh wasn't cool (I still dig the weird prosthetic arms) it's more that you look at any video game thing and now there is always all this loving strange rear end over complicated back story. Why can't he just be a cool summon? Instead he has to be the brother of the mailman of FF1 who went on to be the main recurring villain in FF2 who fell in love with his twins doubles cousins favorite dog in FF6. 
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:I beat the original US version of FFX about as much as possible, filling up the sphere grid for most characters and killing Nemesis in the monster arena. By that point you can kill the final boss by half-heartedly whacking him with Yuna's staff to do a 99,999 damage overkill. The "some of the legendary weapons" part of your post stands out the most since even though I did just about everything else, gently caress dodging the lightning bolts in the Thunder Plains to get Lulu's ultimate weapon and gently caress catching those butterflies for Kimahri's. Spending hours running up and down a single patch of land to catch 10 of the same dumb bird is nothing compared to the frustration of either of those. Yeeeeup. I did Tidus', Rikku, Auron, and Yuna's if I remember right. Oh and I think eventually Wakka's. I never used Kimahri so lol at that, and yeah Lulu did enough damage without dodging a billion lightning strikes. Lunchmeat Larry posted:God, what a horrible idea. I'm glad we've moved on from such awful concepts. You know what I freakin' mean.
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I took one look at the requirements to get Lulu's ultimate weapon and went "Fuuuuuuuuuuuuck that" and got my rear end to Sin right away.
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