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Prescription Combs
Apr 20, 2005
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The sooner the IPv4 is completely used up the better. IPv6 is so much better.

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lampey
Mar 27, 2012

Swink posted:

After 15 years its time to replace our internet filter\proxy... Thing. What do normal crappy business use to police traffic?

Requirements:
• Transparent to the workstation. We currently use a .pac file to handle exceptions and its a nightmare. Laptops need to traverse Work and home connections without needing to adjust proxy settings.
• Block categories of sites. Eg: blocking porn, gambling, anything that wants to give someone an .exe to download.
• Some degree of reporting so management can feel important.
• It not be a steaming pile.
• Reasonable cost for 150-175 users.

Is this kind of thing cloud based now? Appliance? Is this a category of product where there is simply nothing good available?

OpenDNS umbrella can do this and its pretty affordable. There is a client to install for laptops if you want to enforce the same dns servers when they are out of the office also.

FreshFeesh
Jun 3, 2007

Drum Solo

lampey posted:

OpenDNS umbrella can do this and its pretty affordable. There is a client to install for laptops if you want to enforce the same dns servers when they are out of the office also.

^^ What lampey said.

My firm uses OpenDNS' Umbrella service for most of our clients and we've been very happy with the blocking options and multi-site configuration settings. It's all done through DNS and provides reporting.

Dr. Arbitrary
Mar 15, 2006

Bleak Gremlin

larchesdanrew posted:

I pull out tray 2 and pull out the paper stashed in it. The bottom of the tray cassette is a battlefield of tiny pieces of plastic shrapnel. Every moving plastic part has shattered into a thousand pieces.

Make sure to hold onto that broken tray, you might need it some day.

Swink
Apr 18, 2006
Left Side <--- Many Whelps
Thanks for the web filter suggestions so far. There's so much out there, when you don't know what's good and what's just another high-ranking piece of marketing wank, it's really tough.

less than three
Aug 9, 2007



Fallen Rib
We use openDNS umbrella as well. Easy to set up and works well.

ilkhan
Oct 7, 2004

You'll be sorry you made fun of me when Daddy Donald jails all my posting enemies!

Ozz81 posted:

Same here - nowadays SSDs are so cheap, it's dumb not to get one. I've got 2 in my main desktop tower at home and 1 in my work laptop, and being able to boot up Windows in under 10 seconds is awesome, plus the load times for apps and games are way, way better. I spent all of $200 on the ones I use at home, both Crucial MX100 256GB drives I found on sale at Newegg. The only mechanical drive is the 1TB I have for backup data now.
Both my laptop and desktop are setup as 256SSD + 1TB HDDs. I couldn't fathom going back to a not-SSD. loving slow peices of poo poo. I'm looking at going a solo 512GB PCI-E SSD (or 256+1TB if it has 2 slots) for my winter laptop (skylake) build. It wont be for gaming, and I dont need to cart around that many files these days.

Cast_No_Shadow
Jun 8, 2010

The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

In my opinion by far the best advances in computing have been high speed internet connections and ssds. How did I live without them?

Methylethylaldehyde
Oct 23, 2004

BAKA BAKA

Cast_No_Shadow posted:

In my opinion by far the best advances in computing have been high speed internet connections and ssds. How did I live without them?

The same way as before, only they'd have a good paperback or something to read while waiting for that dialup internet link to finish downloading the 37mb episode of DBZ in eye searing 240*160 REALMEDIA format.

DigitalRaven
Oct 9, 2012




If you're considering using TopDesk as a call management system, don't.

We moved from a perfectly good in-house CMS that integrated with our email infrastructure — devolved areas don't have an in-person helpdesk but can email in calls — to buying in a buggy SaaS piece of poo poo that routinely takes several minutes to load a call, has a search function powered by a drunken bonobo, has a mobile interface that has nothing to do with our call-handling workflow, that overrides all text-selection keyboard shortcuts, and that can't return a call to a previous operator or search for an operator among the several hundred operator groups.

Naturally, this is an improvement. Somehow. Probably because the head of the central IT unit has no loving clue as to how his group or any of the devolved areas actually work and decided that paying 2x what we were paying to run the original CMS is a great idea because other people fix it when it breaks. In theory. Y'know, when they can be bothered. If they can be bothered.

iRend
Jun 21, 2004

MOTHER, DID YOU eeeeeayyyyy.... ooooooaaa... ff.



NITROUS DIVISION
So uh I've got two more jobs in Sydney going up on seek tomorrow for SOC workers, 40% shift loading means 6 figures starting pay. No prereqs.

In other news, Juniper firewalls do not appear to be good IPSes. Pity we're rolling them out on Monday...

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
The thing to remember about why we chewed through our IPV4 allocations much faster than we should have, is that back in the early 1990s no one even though that always on internet connections or internet capable cell phones would even be a thing. So companies were given ipv4 pools worth millions of addresses on a whim just because no one thought they'd ever run out.

Then Microsoft spent 8 million dollars buying 600 thousand when Novell liquidated it's assets.


Methylethylaldehyde posted:

The same way as before, only they'd have a good paperback or something to read while waiting for that dialup internet link to finish downloading the 37mb episode of DBZ in eye searing 240*160 REALMEDIA format.

You're reminding me of time spent reading books or watching TV while my computer dutifully downloaded the massive Audiogalaxy queue that I set up earlier at school over my blistering fast 33.6k modem.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Kurieg posted:

The thing to remember about why we chewed through our IPV4 allocations much faster than we should have, is that back in the early 1990s no one even though that always on internet connections or internet capable cell phones would even be a thing. So companies were given ipv4 pools worth millions of addresses on a whim just because no one thought they'd ever run out.
Doesn't IBM have an entire /8 still? I recall there was some fuss about ARIN wanting them to return part of it but IBM refusing.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
the early days of ip4 provisioning were indeed a clusterfuck and are part of the problem

FaintlyQuaint
Aug 19, 2011

The king and his men.
Grimey Drawer
Doesn't the US DoD own some obscene number of ipv4 blocks, also?

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

Collateral Damage posted:

Doesn't IBM have an entire /8 still? I recall there was some fuss about ARIN wanting them to return part of it but IBM refusing.

Still Do


FaintlyQuaint posted:

Doesn't the US DoD own some obscene number of ipv4 blocks, also?

DOD has 12 blocks, each block is worth ~16.7 million addresses, so yes, the DOD has 201 million addresses.

Proud Christian Mom
Dec 20, 2006
READING COMPREHENSION IS HARD
seriously want to know how many ipv4 addresses have a printer on the other end

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf

go3 posted:

seriously want to know how many ipv4 addresses have a printer on the other end

Too many. Always too many.

(gently caress printers)

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
I can't figure out a situation where you'd want your printers to have an always-on externally addressable IP and you wouldn't just use a print server or NAT.

Unless they're assigning one of their 16 million IPs to their internal printers, which is kind of hilariously wasteful and extravagant.

carry on then
Jul 10, 2010

by VideoGames

(and can't post for 10 years!)


Wait, DEC still has some? Are they even still around?

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE

go3 posted:

seriously want to know how many ipv4 addresses have a printer on the other end

The 2012 Internet Census claimed to see at least half a million publicly routable printers:

quote:

A lot of devices and services we have seen during our research should never be connected to the public Internet at all. As a rule of thumb, if you believe that "nobody would connect that to the Internet, really nobody", there are at least 1000 people who did. Whenever you think "that shouldn't be on the Internet but will probably be found a few times" it's there a few hundred thousand times. Like half a million printers, or a Million Webcams, or devices that have root as a root password.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

carry on then posted:

Wait, DEC still has some? Are they even still around?
Sort of. DEC was acquired by Compaq which in turn was acquired by HP, so the address block presumably belongs to HP now.

Japanese Dating Sim
Nov 12, 2003

hehe
Lipstick Apathy
One million publicly routable webcams is even scarier to me. :stonk:

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE
Read the entire report, it's full of revelations like that, both amazing and disturbing. Just the methodology used is deeply disturbing in itself.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:
I don't have a ticket since I'm just a lowly programmer, but: An SQL Error came in.

Someone dropped one of the system tables in our dev environment.

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA
May 29, 2008

Eh, dev environment, who cares, restore from backup or snapshot.

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


Kurieg posted:

I don't have a ticket since I'm just a lowly programmer, but: An SQL Error came in.

Someone dropped one of the system tables in our dev environment.

babby's first revision control fuckup

Nagato
Apr 26, 2011

Why yes my username is the same as an autistic alien who looks like a 9 year old from an anime, why do ask?
:nyoron:

go3 posted:

the early days of ip4 provisioning were indeed a clusterfuck and are part of the problem

The best part of this is that a /8 is owned by hams who basically don't let anyone use it because they're hams

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMPRNet

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:

Eh, dev environment, who cares, restore from backup or snapshot.

I'm not in charge of that kind of stuff, but to maintain referential integrity they will probably have to restore the whole database from the Live environment, last time they did that it took us down for a week.


Oh well, It should be a good test to see if the admins can follow our postconfig documentation :v:

A Frosty Witch
Apr 21, 2005

I was just looking at it and I suddenly got this urge to get inside. No, not just an urge - more than that. It was my destiny to be here; in the box.

Dr. Arbitrary posted:

Make sure to hold onto that broken tray, you might need it some day.

It's already joined the swarm in our horror show of a basement :smith:

Maniaman
Mar 3, 2006

go3 posted:

seriously want to know how many ipv4 addresses have a printer on the other end

The amount of printers my job has on public IP space is astounding.

MJP
Jun 17, 2007

Are you looking at me Senpai?

Grimey Drawer
Can Arrange by Penis pipe output to a list of IPs in a CSV?

Asking for a friend

EDIT: this is affecting production!

Inspector_666
Oct 7, 2003

benny with the good hair

MJP posted:

Can Arrange by Penis pipe output to a list of IPs in a CSV?

Asking for a friend

EDIT: this is affecting production!

Put it in a shared drive and invoke-command it.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Nagato posted:

The best part of this is that a /8 is owned by hams who basically don't let anyone use it because they're hams

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMPRNet

I'm going to get my amateur radio licence in a month, I'm totally gonna get me some of them addresses

dennyk
Jan 2, 2005

Cheese-Buyer's Remorse

Kurieg posted:

I'm not in charge of that kind of stuff, but to maintain referential integrity they will probably have to restore the whole database from the Live environment, last time they did that it took us down for a week.


Oh well, It should be a good test to see if the admins can follow our postconfig documentation :v:

How big is your database (and/or how poor is your infrastructure) that it would take a week to refresh a dev environment from production? Even our huge environments only take a few hours to refresh using SAN volume snapshots; guess it could take a day or so in some cases if we were forced to do an old-fashioned import from the most recent production export for some reason, but still nothing like a week.

Kurieg
Jul 19, 2012

RIP Lutri: 5/19/20-4/2/20
:blizz::gamefreak:

dennyk posted:

How big is your database (and/or how poor is your infrastructure) that it would take a week to refresh a dev environment from production? Even our huge environments only take a few hours to refresh using SAN volume snapshots; guess it could take a day or so in some cases if we were forced to do an old-fashioned import from the most recent production export for some reason, but still nothing like a week.

Client's infrastructure, I have no idea how long it actually takes. But they kick us to a backup environment for a week or more every time they do a refresh. It's super annoying but they pay the bills.

Cool Dad
Jun 15, 2007

It is always Friday night, motherfuckers

Maniaman posted:

The amount of printers my job has on public IP space is astounding.

Every computer and printer at my place of employment, a university, is on a public IP.

lampey
Mar 27, 2012

Kurieg posted:

Still Do


DOD has 12 blocks, each block is worth ~16.7 million addresses, so yes, the DOD has 201 million addresses.

All of the usmc computers use public ips. Nearly all of them are not publicly accessible though. I would expect the whole us gov is similar.

Moey
Oct 22, 2010

I LIKE TO MOVE IT

Gilok posted:

Every computer and printer at my place of employment, a university, is on a public IP.

Gross.

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Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Gilok posted:

Every computer and printer at my place of employment, a university, is on a public IP.

I recently left my job at a university and nearly everything there is on a public IP also. We didn't have printers and certain servers for obvious reasons. It is kind of nice to be honest.

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