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Baronjutter posted:There's a lot of conspiracy theorists in Canada who think "the world" is going to invade canada "for our water" but isn't water fairly hard to transport over long distances cost-effectively? I can't remember the reasons, but oil flows very differently from water when in a pressurized pipe which is why we don't have huge water pipelines like we do oil pipelines. That and outside of Dubai, oil is worth a bit more. If water became expensive enough that it would be economical to pipe down from Canada to California big-ag would already be hosed. Food is basically water in more easily shipped form. Maybe they think China has a
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Baronjutter posted:There's a lot of conspiracy theorists in Canada who think "the world" is going to invade canada "for our water" but isn't water fairly hard to transport over long distances cost-effectively? I can't remember the reasons, but oil flows very differently from water when in a pressurized pipe which is why we don't have huge water pipelines like we do oil pipelines. That and outside of Dubai, oil is worth a bit more. If water became expensive enough that it would be economical to pipe down from Canada to California big-ag would already be hosed. Water has been transported across long distances since the Romans and Han Dynasty invented the aqueduct system. The distance between LA and Seattle is half that of the longest aqueduct in the world.
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Apr 21, 2015 01:37
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Which aquaduct is this? LA and Seattle are about 2000 miles apart, and every aquaduct I can find with a cursory search is measured in the hundreds. All less than a thousand, at any rate. Edit: quick, someone sell Bertha to California to dig their aqueduct while they're still desperate 
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Apr 21, 2015 01:47
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The distance between Seattle and LA is 954 miles by air. The GMR in Libya is 1,750 miles long, and cost ~$25 billion to construct.
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Apr 21, 2015 11:53
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If california is willing to foot the bill for an actual roman style aqueduct to get at our water, I would approve of it.
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Apr 22, 2015 02:33
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Only if we charge enough to cover our broken and regressive tax system.
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Apr 22, 2015 15:39
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oxbrain posted:Only if we charge enough to cover our broken and regressive tax system. Please, we could charge trillions and they would just go to tax breaks for Boeing or Amazon.
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Apr 22, 2015 16:42
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Mrit posted:Please, we could charge trillions and they would just go to tax breaks for Boeing or Amazon.  Well, it's not like Boeing could make money and keep all of those people employed without them.http://www.bbc.com/news/business-32417095 oh.
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Apr 22, 2015 17:44
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The more I read about Boeing, the more amusing I find rhetoric about letting them leave and retooling the machines to build public transit. I wonder how many jobs could.be replaced by what we're giving them?
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Apr 23, 2015 22:49
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that's a loving stupid idea
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Apr 23, 2015 22:53
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It's a bad idea for Boeing and for us. Without them providing a source of disgruntled workers, we'll lose the rest of our aerospace industry in time.
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Apr 23, 2015 23:16
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oxbrain posted:It's a bad idea for Boeing and for us. Without them providing a source of disgruntled workers, we'll lose the rest of our aerospace industry in time. Well we do have space X running that lab now which could in time be a new anchor. Also public transit is stupid if were going to make giant hangars change production it should be into mobile suits or big Berthas 
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Apr 23, 2015 23:20
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RuanGacho posted:Also public transit is stupid if were going to make giant hangars change production it should be into mobile suits or big Berthas
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Apr 23, 2015 23:57
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RuanGacho posted:Well we do have space X running that lab now which could in time be a new anchor. I hope not. We don't need any more burnt out, former idealist, space nerds around here. e: Nationalize(stateize?) local 787 production. We could call it the GreenLiner.
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RuanGacho posted:Also public transit is stupid if were going to make giant hangars change production it should be into mobile suits or big Berthas That too presents its own problem... 
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Apr 24, 2015 04:37
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I wish the thing in charge of drones was just a really big drone.
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oxbrain posted:e: Nationalize(stateize?) local 787 production. We could call it the GreenLiner. Haven't you seen the tax breaks already in place?
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Xand_Man posted:I wish the thing in charge of drones was just a really big drone. It wasn't? The xmen never had an alien queen type fight with it? Shame.
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Apr 24, 2015 17:30
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I meant real life drones, unless 
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The funnier thing to do would be to try and get Airbus to open a facility in WA state, since the tax breaks apply to all "aerospace" companies, not just Boeing. Suddenly Boeing would have to pay higher wages to remain competitive against people being recruited to work for Airbus.
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Apr 24, 2015 18:49
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well how hard can it be? zzzzzzzzzzzz bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz! we'll see who brings in more honey
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seiferguy posted:The funnier thing to do would be to try and get Airbus to open a facility in WA state, since the tax breaks apply to all "aerospace" companies, not just Boeing. Suddenly Boeing would have to pay higher wages to remain competitive against people being recruited to work for Airbus. The tax-breaks that Airbus gets to operate where they do makes the WA State Legislature look frugal and austere.
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Apr 24, 2015 23:23
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Ernie Muppari posted:well how hard can it be? He's thinking about bees again.
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effectual posted:It wasn't? The xmen never had an alien queen type fight with it? Shame. They didn't bother. Sentinels weren't very bright, a trait apparently passed on by Master Mold (see near end of video).
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Freakazoid_ posted:They didn't bother. Sentinels weren't very bright, a trait apparently passed on by Master Mold (see near end of video). to this day i still don't know why master mold was plugged into the toilet
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Ernie Muppari posted:to this day i still don't know why master mold was plugged into the toilet
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Article: In northwest, a push to protect forest as geothermal project nears From: NPR Date: April 18, 2015 There's resistance to the US Forest service opening up 80,000 acres of Mt. Baker - Snoqualmie National Park for possible geothermal developement What do you guys think? This is the first I'm hearing so I don't know what to make of it. If geothermal's not built, I can't imagine we'd just do without the increased capacity, so what would be built instead? And are there less environmentally damaging places to put plants? 
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Accretionist posted:Article: In northwest, a push to protect forest as geothermal project nears quote:Geologists Dave Tucker and Pete Stelling recently hiked to the Mount Baker Hot Springs, located within the national forest. The faint smell of sulfur greet them as they arrive at the hot springs. If you are picturing a beautiful, bubbling pool surrounded by ferns, stop. If it already looks like poo poo, might as well make something useful out of it, especially if its our first steps into trying out Geo-Thermal.
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That reads like PR.quote:in the mud next to a waist-deep pool of murky water" Oh really? Natural hot springs have mud? Ewwww! And beer cans? Better do what I do to my many houses when I see those. Walk out on it and buy a new one.
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Apr 27, 2015 03:53
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I think you should be able to smoke inside bars, that was such a stupid law to pass
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FRINGE posted:That reads like PR. Well it IS nPR. Which I've come to realize generally has the same level of journalistic integrity as a local community facebook page.
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:I think you should be able to smoke inside bars, that was such a stupid law to pass I disagree. I am also a smoker.
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Error 404 posted:I disagree. If you want to be free in Washington you have to go to Indian land
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:If you want to be free in Washington you have to go to Indian land Being truly free is being responsible for how your actions affect others.
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FRINGE posted:That reads like PR. Now I'm envisioning picturesque Icelandic plants -  - and wastewater pools which people pay to use like hot springs -  - replacing beer cans and overweight hillfolk.  Thanks, NPR! It's very in keeping with their tendency for centrist pro-corporate reporting.
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Hey ultra crazy hippies: If you want reusable energy, you gotta get it somewhere. Geothermal is far less destructive than oil/gas/hydro/nearly anything else. We need the power, getting it as non-destructively as possible is a good thing.
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Goldmeyer Hot Springs is pretty nice. Lots of bugs when I went, though.
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Mrit posted:Hey ultra crazy hippies: If you want reusable energy, you gotta get it somewhere. Geothermal is far less destructive than oil/gas/hydro/nearly anything else. This is what I agree with. I want Cascadia to be ready to self sustain and we don't have the oil so I want the everything else developed.
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Nuclear power is the way to go, actually
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Lord Waffle Beard posted:Nuclear power is the way to go, actually This.
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