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Hi who here slept through the dawn service like me At least remembrance day has the far better timed symbolic minute at 11:11
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Apr 24, 2015 22:59
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the new zealanders didn't even land at dawn
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Apr 24, 2015 23:04
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puchu posted:Hi who here slept through the dawn service like me I don't know why they don't do a dusk one too, except that people might think that begrudgingly subjecting themselves to inconvenience is somehow a better way to honour the dead.
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Apr 24, 2015 23:04
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Exclamation Marx posted:look at that, Rachel Glucina How about a term that real people use next time, yeah? mirthdefect posted:I don't know why they don't do a dusk one too, except that people might think that begrudgingly subjecting themselves to inconvenience is somehow a better way to honour the dead. Pretty sure that Dawn was the only real point of the day when they were both awake and not being shot at. It's a nice gesture.
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Apr 24, 2015 23:18
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WarpedNaba posted:And the Independent. That's sensible. I figured it was because (at least in part) of "... and in the morning, we will remember them".
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Apr 24, 2015 23:28
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Anzac day is today? ok then, back to video games and web browsing
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Apr 24, 2015 23:33
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Auckland Domain Dawn Parade was good. There were only one or two cringe-worthy "your country is worth dying for" bits but they were in hymns which I'm guessing is tradition as much as anything else. The more modern bits of it definitely had a more reflective tone. A lot of people sung the Australian national anthem and the Maori verses of ours, there was no surge in volume when the English bit started which was a nice change. Definitely worth going to.
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Apr 24, 2015 23:47
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Today the Herald will be using Twitter to familiarise readers with how events unfolded at Gallipoli when the Anzac troops landed 100 years ago.
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Apr 24, 2015 23:48
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Exclamation Marx posted:the new zealanders didn't even land at dawn Don't let facts get in the way
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Apr 25, 2015 00:21
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In my opinion the lessons of Anzac Day and JK's volunteering of troops to Iraq are in conflict.
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Apr 25, 2015 03:18
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I woke up at 12. fuk the world.
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Apr 25, 2015 03:19
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Article about bikers revving overtop of Last Post posted:The actions of a motorbike gang who turned up late to an Anzac Day dawn service then roared off during the Last Post are being labelled as "disgusting" by a grandmother. What about the bit where they sent off thousands of men to die. 
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Apr 25, 2015 03:44
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Dunedin dawn service was Dunedin massive, apparently 15-20k people there . Very few interesting moments or 'troublemakers' , spotted just a few really hungover/disheveled people but they were being pretty chill so eh. I thought the people doing the addresses were pretty grounded and didn't get into any flat out endorsements of imperialism and so on
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Apr 25, 2015 04:19
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Ratios and Tendency posted:In my opinion the lessons of Anzac Day and JK's volunteering of troops to Iraq are in conflict. Ya don't say~ I'd be surprised if that hasn't been brought up by Labour or the Greens already today. There's no way Key will mention troop deployment while in Turkey anyway. e: more preaching to the choir probably but this piece on thewireless about inequality in NZ is sobering to say the least: http://thewireless.co.nz/articles/the-pencilsword-inequality-tower voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Apr 25, 2015 |
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Apr 25, 2015 04:23
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Went to the 10:00AM one in Hamilton. Was going to go to the dawn service but it was pointedly mentioned in local media it is "for serving and ex-service personnel, and their reps". So, I went to the later one. There, among the self-serving politicians we had Air Commodore Kevin McEvoy essentially tell us, "you know, some folks invoke the ANZAC spirit for all kinds of things, in sports analogies and in boardrooms [ really?]. But it actually belongs to us, the people in the defence forces. Not the rest of you, got it?" "But thanks for coming, I suppose". Commodore McEvoy may have been embarrassed when his former boss Lt Gen Rt Hon Sir Jerry Mateparae gets the ANZAC message, and in his missive essentially said "Hey, let's not do this again. That was madness and futile". tl,dr: Didn't we learn about this 100 years ago? Let's not invite ourselves to other people's wars.
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Apr 25, 2015 08:54
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Vandalseed posted:Went to the 10:00AM one in Hamilton. That's who marches in the Dawn Parade. You can go along and watch one. Def. check one out at some stage, it's quite different to the civic ceremonies later in the morning.
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Apr 25, 2015 08:59
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Butt Wizard posted:That's who marches in the Dawn Parade. You can go along and watch one. Def. check one out at some stage, it's quite different to the civic ceremonies later in the morning. Right, point taken. Were you there for the 10:00AM one? I was less than 10m away from the minute gun, and literally knew exactly when it would fire, but it still made me jump. KABOOM! How about the ferals at the riverfront who literally (this is sooo overused, but actually, literally true this time ) could not stop their offspring from talking during the one minute silence? I have never served, and obviously this all comes across as self-righteous-by-proxy. But, that really soured the whole thing. The ferals in question are serial peaceniks from a long way back. Okay, we get it, but : A little decorum, folks, at least today?
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Apr 25, 2015 09:19
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today I'm gonna remember the Maori jailed for objecting to being conscripted into the army of their violent colonial oppressors to fight for a foreign monarchy which invaded their land and illegally dispossessed them of it
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Apr 25, 2015 09:25
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Vandalseed posted:Right, point taken. Ah, yes, "the ferals" What the gently caress is wrong with you?
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Apr 25, 2015 09:31
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Vandalseed posted:Were you there for the 10:00AM one? I was less than 10m away from the minute gun, and literally knew exactly when it would fire, but it still made me jump. KABOOM! I was at the Auckland Domain Dawn Parade, used to go to the later ones in St Heliers when I was a scout.
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Apr 25, 2015 09:43
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Lancelot posted:today I'm gonna remember the Maori jailed for objecting to being conscripted into the army of their violent colonial oppressors to fight for a foreign monarchy which invaded their land and illegally dispossessed them of it Jesus it never even occurred to me that Maori would have been subject to the draft, but of course they were.
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Apr 25, 2015 09:48
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Vandalseed posted:Right, point taken. Kids talk, you can't stop them you mental case - especially when they are like 2. Edit: you think the soldiers who died would be annoyed that an innocent child (who they ostensibly died for) doesn't understand decorum and talked? gently caress me....
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Apr 25, 2015 09:49
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Butt Wizard posted:Auckland Domain Dawn Parade was good. There were only one or two cringe-worthy "your country is worth dying for" bits but they were in hymns which I'm guessing is tradition as much as anything else. The more modern bits of it definitely had a more reflective tone. Eh, the screen on the left side of the museum kept shorting out. And the whole thing seemed a little Mickey Mouse, but it was nice to tour the museum and check out the exhibits again. Bike gangs were pretty annoying, though. At least we got to see the Huey's. WarpedNaba fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Apr 25, 2015 |
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Apr 25, 2015 09:54
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Ah, yes, "the ferals" I guess what is wrong with me is that I think it (Gallipoli campaign) was a senseless waste of human life: Pakeha, Maori, Turkish and everyone else, and that this senseless butchery deserves to be remembered, at least today, with a moment of silence. Everyone can see that: The Establishment The Left The Unions The Right The Corporations The Church The Empire The Other Empire Everyone lost that day. It was senseless. So when you specifically go to a place named "Memorial Park", at the specific moment when there is a request for a minute's silence, when the entirety of the services AND THE TURKISH ENVOY is present, do not delight in loving it up for everyone else. I guess.
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Apr 25, 2015 09:56
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Vandalseed posted:I guess what is wrong with me is that I think it (Gallipoli campaign) was a senseless waste of human life: Pakeha, Maori, Turkish and everyone else, and that this senseless butchery deserves to be remembered, at least today, with a moment of silence. Please take your brain meds.
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Apr 25, 2015 10:01
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What exactly happened?
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Apr 25, 2015 10:02
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swampland posted:What exactly happened? 2 year old kids were talking during the minute of silence, apparently. Given a child's physiological inability to grasp the gravity of such a concept, this is not a thing that usually upsets anyone.
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Apr 25, 2015 10:32
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Lancelot posted:today I'm gonna remember the Maori jailed for objecting to being conscripted into the army of their violent colonial oppressors to fight for a foreign monarchy which invaded their land and illegally dispossessed them of it Well said.
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Apr 25, 2015 10:46
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_My_ anzac day was simply RUINED by these feral 2 year olds. I didn't have any fun at all!!!
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Apr 25, 2015 10:48
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I kind of hate Anzac day and all military shame-abrations. I think the best Anzac monument we could build would be shipping home all those bones, digging up all the military graveyards and putting giant piles of rotting bones in the centers and squares of large cities.
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Apr 25, 2015 12:14
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Cumslut1895 posted:I kind of hate Anzac day and all military shame-abrations. I think the best Anzac monument we could build would be shipping home all those bones, digging up all the military graveyards and putting giant piles of rotting bones in the centers and squares of large cities. You okay there, fella?
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Apr 25, 2015 14:14
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WarpedNaba posted:Eh, the screen on the left side of the museum kept shorting out. And the whole thing seemed a little Mickey Mouse, but it was nice to tour the museum and check out the exhibits again. Ah, I was on the left about two rows of people back from the parade area so I couldn't/didn't need to see the screen much. A friend who was watching it said there were some large 'dead pixel' areas and that the lyrics for hymns and subtitles for Maori parts of the ceremony were all about ten seconds behind where they needed to be. The Hueys being late was the only really big gently caress-up though, that was a bit awkward.
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Apr 25, 2015 20:49
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Yeah, the screen apparently works in blocks of pixels, three of them died out. Shameful. Mayor could have taken advantage and told us to watch the dawn, but eh. Time to make ANZAC bikkies.
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Apr 25, 2015 22:42
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https://twitter.com/CampbellLiveNZ/status/592176903894663169
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Apr 26, 2015 05:16
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What are Campbell's political opinions, anyway? I never paid attention to the man.
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Apr 26, 2015 05:59
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John Key: I'm probably NZ's most casual prime minister
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Apr 26, 2015 06:54
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I hope someone casually knifes him in the throat.
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Apr 26, 2015 06:56
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I don't really think Key can claim he is NZ's most casual PM until he drunkenly calls a snap election and loses spectacularly.
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Apr 26, 2015 07:21
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I'm so casual I'm not even phased by simple concepts such as personal space, let alone the more complicated ones like a growing underclass and hungry children. Just relax and get a beer, New Zuland. JK's here.
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Apr 26, 2015 07:55
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:I hope someone casually knifes him in the throat. lol me too
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Apr 26, 2015 08:57
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