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crazypenguin: Mar 9, 2005; nothing witty here, move along

Suspicious Dish posted:

hi thread, today i got chewed out by an extremely unstable developer in the foss graphics space

http://libv.livejournal.com/27461.html

I saw that on p.fd.o yesterday and thought about posting it here. then i looked into it way too much and decided it was just sad.

as near as i can tell, ages ago he wrote an open source ati driver, then some other people wrote a different ati driver for some reason, and their's won. and it broke him?

i can't even point and laugh at that. that's just someone is real need of therapy. sucks it doesn't sound like he's getting any.

# ? Apr 24, 2015 16:27

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# ? May 28, 2024 18:56

Suspicious Dish: Sep 24, 2011; 2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro; Fun Shoe

this guy has a track record of just being insane and believing that people are in a giant conspiracy against him. he's incredibly difficult to work with

note that he wasn't involved in the conversation at this point, and when i used the word "tainted", i was mostly making a joke to all the other graphics people since while it's not tainted by license, they all understand that nobody is going near that codebase ever since the project is run by him and nobody wants to work with him

they all got that like right away

if i was a company and wanted to squash any open-source driver of my hardware, i don't think i could have done a better job than libv

# ? Apr 24, 2015 16:40

Symbolic Butt: Mar 22, 2009; (_!_); Buglord

Suspicious Dish posted:

hi thread, today i got chewed out by an extremely unstable developer in the foss graphics space

http://libv.livejournal.com/27461.html

Here's my favorite part:

code:

13:01 #dri-devel: < Jasper> there's still code somewhere on a certain person's hard disk he
                  won't release because he's mad about things and the other project contributors
                  all quit

quote:

Also, "all" the contributors to Lima did not quit. I am still there

# ? Apr 25, 2015 01:27

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

I used the built-in updater to upgrade Ubuntu on my Linux/Haiku box from 14.10 to 15.04. the process appeared to go smoothly.

upon restart, it forgot what its root volume was, could not re-mount it readwrite during startup, and as a result was unable to boot to its cargo-cult facsimile of a decent user interface.

I had to use one of the recovery options in grub to use upstart instead of systemd to boot to a point where I could edit /etc/fstab and tell it the correct UUID of the root volume, which for some reason someone thinks is reasonable to record in a file on the loving root volume

now networking doesn't come up until a bit after the first interactive login on console. good thing I'm not using this as a server.

# ? Apr 25, 2015 10:46

bobbilljim: May 29, 2013; this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me

Soricidus posted:

try latex next

i did the first version in markdown, and i feel a lot more positively about latex as a result

because i mean at least latex is good for something

# ? Apr 25, 2015 10:53

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

eschaton posted:

upon restart, it forgot what its root volume was, could not re-mount it readwrite during startup, and as a result was unable to boot to its cargo-cult facsimile of a decent user interface.

lol

# ? Apr 25, 2015 13:57

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

Ubuntu is moving away from the deb package format to snappy, which I have never heard of.

# ? Apr 25, 2015 14:57

Sapozhnik: Jan 2, 2005; Nap Ghost

do they still sell your personal computer usage patterns to amazon

# ? Apr 25, 2015 15:19

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

eschaton posted:

I used the built-in updater to upgrade Ubuntu on my Linux/Haiku box from 14.10 to 15.04. the process appeared to go smoothly.

upon restart, it forgot what its root volume was, could not re-mount it readwrite during startup, and as a result was unable to boot to its cargo-cult facsimile of a decent user interface.

I had to use one of the recovery options in grub to use upstart instead of systemd to boot to a point where I could edit /etc/fstab and tell it the correct UUID of the root volume, which for some reason someone thinks is reasonable to record in a file on the loving root volume

now networking doesn't come up until a bit after the first interactive login on console. good thing I'm not using this as a server.

ubuntu is trash

# ? Apr 25, 2015 15:37

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

SYSV Fanfic posted:

Ubuntu is moving away from the deb package format to snappy, which I have never heard of.

snappy is not necessarily a bad idea, but i sure don't trust ubuntu to deliver anything that sophisticated

# ? Apr 25, 2015 15:38

Soricidus: Oct 21, 2010; freedom-hating statist shill

I've always said that the only thing holding linux back from mass adoption is that there just aren't enough different package formats

# ? Apr 25, 2015 15:41

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

I'm upgrading to 15.04 right now guys. It will allow me to get the latest advertisements from amazon straight to my start screen knock off. Wish me luck!

# ? Apr 25, 2015 15:52

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

Hmmm, I think its stuck.

# ? Apr 25, 2015 16:12

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

SYSV Fanfic posted:

I'm upgrading to 15.04 right now guys. It will allow me to get the latest advertisements from amazon straight to my start screen knock off. Wish me luck!

"Only a fool learns from his own mistakes. The wise man learns from the mistakes of others"

# ? Apr 25, 2015 16:14

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

"Only a fool learns from his own mistakes. The wise man learns from the mistakes of others"

How could I have possibly known this was going to happen. 15.04 is a new version number. I know I had issues upgrading from 4.10, 5.04, 5.10, 6.4, 6.10.......14.10.
My parents machine has like five packages installed outside of the base, and it always works. Go figure.

# ? Apr 25, 2015 16:23

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

SYSV Fanfic posted:

Quote not edit.

# ? Apr 25, 2015 16:24

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

I figured it out. It created a minimized dialog window.

# ? Apr 25, 2015 16:32

Lysidas: Jul 26, 2002; John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.; Pillbug

ubuntu is trash, no question

been very satisfied with kubuntu though, for the last several years

running 15.04 on my laptop and 14.04 everywhere else, 14.10 wasnt big enough to push me off a LTS release, but plasma 5 and systemd are neat

# ? Apr 25, 2015 17:21

pram: Jun 10, 2001

SYSV Fanfic posted:

I figured it out. It created a minimized dialog window.

lol

# ? Apr 25, 2015 21:13

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

OK Guys, just came back from volunteering to help feed hungry hillbillies. Going to restart now. Lets see the glory of Kubuntu 15.04!

# ? Apr 25, 2015 23:08

SYSV Fanfic: Sep 9, 2003; by Pragmatica

The new six minute boot time is really impressive.

Edit:

The plasma 5 icons look sharp, and clash with the old kde category menus nicely.

SYSV Fanfic fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Apr 25, 2015

# ? Apr 25, 2015 23:19

Byde: Apr 15, 2013; by Lowtax

Hello, I've come to the YOSPOS Linux mock thread to announce that systemd is the Obamacare of Unix. That it all.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 00:02

celeron 300a: Jan 23, 2005; by exmarx; Yam Slacker

eschaton posted:

I used the built-in updater to upgrade Ubuntu on my Linux/Haiku box from 14.10 to 15.04. the process appeared to go smoothly.

upon restart, it forgot what its root volume was, could not re-mount it readwrite during startup, and as a result was unable to boot to its cargo-cult facsimile of a decent user interface.

I had to use one of the recovery options in grub to use upstart instead of systemd to boot to a point where I could edit /etc/fstab and tell it the correct UUID of the root volume, which for some reason someone thinks is reasonable to record in a file on the loving root volume

now networking doesn't come up until a bit after the first interactive login on console. good thing I'm not using this as a server.

I just wipe everything except my home directory and re-install. I assume that no one at Canonical has ever actually used the upgrade system except via an automated test on a machine that only has the base stuff installed from a previous release.

I look forward to the upcoming multiple pages of configuration management discussion in the desktop linux thread.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 00:09

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

Byde posted:

Hello, I've come to the YOSPOS Linux mock thread to announce that systemd is the Obamacare of Unix. That it all.

i agree that systemd makes some important steps towards improving life for linuxes but is an incomplete solution

# ? Apr 26, 2015 00:17

celeron 300a: Jan 23, 2005; by exmarx; Yam Slacker

Byde posted:

Hello, I've come to the YOSPOS Linux mock thread to announce that systemd is the Obamacare of Unix. That it all.

Much like network manager, pulse audio and resolvconf, I assume that systemd is just how things are going to be now and we're just going to have to patch in the stuff that we think is missing.

Resolvconf is a nightmare to debug, though. If I have DNS issues, that thing is the first to go before I even start pinging anything.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 00:20

The_Franz: Aug 8, 2003

Cocoa Crispies posted:

i agree that systemd makes some important steps towards improving life for linuxes but is an incomplete solution

and it's hated a bunch of completely insane people because it "attacks their freedom" or some dumb poo poo like that

# ? Apr 26, 2015 00:23

celeron 300a: Jan 23, 2005; by exmarx; Yam Slacker

Cocoa Crispies posted:

i agree that systemd makes some important steps towards improving life for linuxes but is an incomplete solution

That's ok, it's just a framework for how we will integrate bespoke solutions for your particular corner cases.

Gonna add a plugin to make sure a quake server is always on PID 4 and running that crazy gravity changing level because you never know.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 00:24

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

celeron 300a posted:

I just wipe everything except my home directory and re-install. I assume that no one at Canonical has ever actually used the upgrade system except via an automated test on a machine that only has the base stuff installed from a previous release.

I look forward to the upcoming multiple pages of configuration management discussion in the desktop linux thread.

turns out it was having virtualbox installed that hosed my networking

uninstall virtualbox, networking works at startup. install virtualbox, networking only works after interactive login.

Linux.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 04:07

eschaton: Mar 7, 2007; Don't you just hate when you wind up in a store with people who are in a socioeconomic class that is pretty obviously about two levels lower than your own?

Byde posted:

Hello, I've come to the YOSPOS Linux mock thread to announce that systemd is the Obamacare of Unix. That it all.

this makes launchd Scandinavian-model social welfare, doesn't it?

# ? Apr 26, 2015 04:09

Cocoa Crispies: Jul 20, 2001; Vehicular Manslaughter!; Pillbug

eschaton posted:

turns out it was having virtualbox installed that hosed my networking

uninstall virtualbox, networking works at startup. install virtualbox, networking only works after interactive login.

Linux.

don't use virtualbox, it's bad

# ? Apr 26, 2015 04:48

Phoenixan: Jan 16, 2010; Just Keep Cool-idge

eschaton posted:

turns out it was having virtualbox installed that hosed my networking

uninstall virtualbox, networking works at startup. install virtualbox, networking only works after interactive login.

Linux.

oracle'd again

# ? Apr 26, 2015 04:56

Last Chance: Dec 31, 2004

virtualbox lmao. garbage

# ? Apr 26, 2015 06:30

ZShakespeare: Jul 20, 2003; The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose!

eschaton posted:

this makes launchd Scandinavian-model social welfare, doesn't it?

what is communism

# ? Apr 26, 2015 08:29

ahmeni: May 1, 2005; It's one continuous form where hardware and software function in perfect unison, creating a new generation of iPhone that's better by any measure.; Grimey Drawer

bobbilljim posted:

i did the first version in markdown, and i feel a lot more positively about latex as a result

because i mean at least latex is good for something

markdown is for tricking developers into writing documentation, not actual documents

# ? Apr 26, 2015 10:47

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

eschaton posted:

this makes launchd Scandinavian-model social welfare, doesn't it?

it makes launchd into post-soviet east bloc healthcare

ostensibly the hospitals are free but i hope you brought your own IV bags, bandages, dressings, and bribes for the nurses

# ? Apr 26, 2015 15:02

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

bobbilljim posted:

i wrote my latest resume with openoffice and only contemplated ending it all 2 or 3 times

I wrote my resume in LibreOffice and got it formatted all nicely and didn't get a call back. Then I had my girlfriend open it in MS Word and it was formatted like hot garbage.

Soricidus posted:

try latex next

Then I did this, applied to a higher position in the same exact department, and got an offer.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 20:31

dont skimp on the shrimp: Apr 23, 2008

CPColin posted:

I wrote my resume in LibreOffice and got it formatted all nicely and didn't get a call back. Then I had my girlfriend open it in MS Word and it was formatted like hot garbage.

i usually just export all my important docs as pdf.

# ? Apr 26, 2015 20:35

Notorious b.s.d.: Jan 25, 2003; by Reene

CPColin posted:

I wrote my resume in LibreOffice and got it formatted all nicely and didn't get a call back. Then I had my girlfriend open it in MS Word and it was formatted like hot garbage

this happens even between versions of microsoft office

it's just a really bad document format

# ? Apr 26, 2015 20:50