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Tai-Pan
Feb 10, 2001

superdylan posted:

I got to start this up and rev it like a maniac but sadly, no test drive :(



Thats neat and all, but wtf is going on behind that black series?

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mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
Looks like it's this god awful CL55: http://www.parkplaceltd.com/used-cars/detail/2004-Mercedes-Benz-CL55-AMG/995/WDBPJ74J44A042645/~/Make_~ModelActual_~Year_2004/4

Tai-Pan
Feb 10, 2001

Formerly owned by a Portland Trailblazer.
Seems about right.

Good luck getting $40k for that poo poo heap.

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy

That's a drat shame because the interior is flawless and it looks well-kept but good god those wheels and body kit are ruthlessly awful

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
Yeah it would probably be worth at least high 20's or maybe even 30k without the dumb kit. Great interior and super low miles.

YoungSexualNorton
Aug 8, 2004
These are good for the children's brains.
I've got a 97 e320 that is approaching 200k miles and it's starting to feel like it isn't going to get there, or at least not be worth what it would cost to drag it across that line. I've looked around a bit and there are a lot of people talking about getting significantly more mileage out of the same model, and very few complaining about the sorts of issues I've encountered.

Across 3-4 major fixes in the past 2 years, I've spent a little over 5 grand just to keep it running. This is after a lot of free work in 2007 by my father-in-law who has been a Benz mechanic for 30 years. Now suddenly it's leaking oil from the head gasket like it's been stabbed while simultaneously making some sort of horrid clicking noise that I've never heard before in my admittedly limited car experience.

It doesn't seem like a vehicle that was this expensive coming off the line should cost another small fortune to keep running, but maybe I'm just naive. I think I'm finally going to give up on it and stop convincing myself that this next multi-thousand dollar repair will be the one that gives it another few years of life.

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

YoungSexualNorton posted:

It doesn't seem like a vehicle that was this expensive coming off the line should cost another small fortune to keep running, but maybe I'm just naive.

You are. Generally as a rule, the more expensive it cost new, the more expensive it's going to be to maintain and keep running.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
Thread should be titled, "Mercedes-Benz: a vehicle this expensive shouldn't cost a small fortune to keep running"

_Loser_
Dec 8, 2005

Gaymu for Teemu
Hey speaking of.... Just dropped a link in the marketplace for my 05 E500. Liked my time with it but we're a two Subaru family now.

Clickenzeehere.

cursedshitbox
May 20, 2012

Your rear-end wont survive my hammering.



Fun Shoe

YoungSexualNorton posted:

Now suddenly it's leaking oil from the head gasket like it's been stabbed while simultaneously making some sort of horrid clicking noise that I've never heard before in my admittedly limited car experience.


Its a M104. thats a known issue. I did the one on my 93 320TE.
Do the gasket and enjoy a few hundred thou more miles out of that mill, or sell it.
Use the updated part. it'll help keep it from happening again.

FYI. your transmission reverse apply piston will take a poo poo next. somewhere between 200 and 240k.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
On the other hand, these cars can be a joy to work on. I just did the yearly service on my 300te and it's the easiest oil change of all my cars. Sure, all the supplies come to $100, but what are you gonna do?

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009


Way to make a Merc look like a Mustang.

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
I traced the rest of my fuel leak down to the number 1 injector weeping a small amount of diesel but I have no idea what size wrench I need to turn the injectors, I have up to a 22mm and it won't fit, though clearance is really tight with all the hardlines and poo poo still in place.

e: 27mm and a half inch drive torque wrench ughhhhhhh

rscott fucked around with this message at 18:48 on Mar 17, 2015

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
So CLK55 amg chat, unfortunately not mustangified, in my search for a 3 kid sized convertible one of these showed up for $16k. A 2004 with 72k miles. Is this the age and mileage where I have to sell one of the children to keep it going? if I have to sell two it defeats the purpose of upsizing the miata. Going to look at it today. Driver seat has some wear but people are wanting this money for higher mileage camaros.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
Can you afford to budget around $1000/month for repair?

That's not a socioeconomic put down, by the way, but rather the cost of doing business for the car you want to buy. It is going to break often, and every repair will be pricey.

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
Can you afford a new one? Then you might be able to afford a used one.
Honestly even if the thought of "can I afford this" comes to mind at all when purchasing a used amg benz, just run away.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
So lease new or don't bother. Looks like the kids will get to kick it 80s style in an F body. I wonder if I can find a turbo trans am v6.

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
If it wasn't the convertible, it may not be that bad. The NA 5.5l engine is pretty good and IIRC that generation didn't have air suspension or any of that other poo poo.

I wouldn't want to try my luck with a convertible though. Mercedes roof mechanism uses a special hydraulic fluid that you can I think only get at the dealer, and after time fluid starts eating away the seals on their way to freedom. Ask me how I know. :shepicide:

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
On the other hand, if you get a good old reliable W124, then what very few repairs you have to do will be extremely inexpensive. I did the radiator for under $100, and I'm picking it up from the Mercedes specialist tomorrow after having the A/C repaired, transmission cooler line replaced, new steering stabilizer, tie rods, etc. and an alignment for a cool $1000. W123s are similar. So, not all of these cars are created equal.

Tremek
Jun 10, 2005

Mr. Wiggles posted:

Can you afford to budget around $1000/month for repair?

That's not a socioeconomic put down, by the way, but rather the cost of doing business for the car you want to buy. It is going to break often, and every repair will be pricey.

I think that's overstating things significantly. CLK is based on what, C-class bones? It's not a CL/SL (S class) and therefore a LOT cheaper to run.

I put $500 in unplanned maintenance into my 100k mile '05 E55 in a year and an additional 10k hard miles that included racing. All depends on the car.

Tremek fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Apr 24, 2015

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
1. AMG
2. Convertible

I rest my case.

BrokenKnucklez
Apr 22, 2008

by zen death robot
If you thought the M-tax was bad, AMG seems to just double every thing.

Tremek
Jun 10, 2005

You guys are insane. Not all AMGs equal massive repair bills.

mod sassinator
Dec 13, 2006
I came here to Kick Ass and Chew Bubblegum,
and I'm All out of Ass
My friend has had an '05 E55 for about 7 years now and he's probably spent all up about $5k in maintenance on it. The big things were about $2k to fix a cracked rear suspension crossmember and then lots of little random things over time, like the GPS antenna wires fraying and breaking. So it hasn't been a tremendous money pit, but it's still not a Honda/Toyota level of reliability.

Elephanthead
Sep 11, 2008


Toilet Rascal
Surprisingly my wife is on board for some reason I guess because it is an auto. I really only need it to go 2000 miles a year and sit in a garage the rest of the time. If my miata sells on Saturday I will document my impending bankruptcy here. Also if it wasn't a convertible AMG I wouldn't be interested in it, even if it is the lamest convertible AMG. I am pretty sure driving it around with the top stuck half way up is going to be hilarious.

heated game moment
Oct 30, 2003

Lipstick Apathy
There is far less to go wrong on that car than on most other AMGs. $1,000 a month in maintenance is probably overstated by a factor of 10 unless you have to replace the entire sunroof mechanism or something, I have no idea about convertibles.

This seems like it might be worth browsing http://mbworld.org/forums/clk55-amg-clk63-amg-w208-w209/421439-how-many-miles-do-you-have-your-clk-list-your-problems.html

With an endorsement like this how can you say no? "In addition to daily driving, the car has been tracked at Pacific Raceways and Ridge Motorsports Park. Far and away the most reliable car I've owned, and repairs are comparatively inexpensive." his other car is a Ferrari 360 Spyder

heated game moment fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Apr 24, 2015

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





My brother is looking for some bits for his 70s mercedes. It's a W108.019 72 280SEL 3.5
He's chasing OEM parts as far as possible, anyone got any contacts in this regard? We're in NZ so shipping will likely be an arm and a leg but he's prepared for that.

GhostDog
Jul 30, 2003

Always see everything.

Two Finger posted:

My brother is looking for some bits for his 70s mercedes. It's a W108.019 72 280SEL 3.5
He's chasing OEM parts as far as possible, anyone got any contacts in this regard? We're in NZ so shipping will likely be an arm and a leg but he's prepared for that.

In Germany the first address would probably be the VDH at http://www.mercedesclub.de/, they're the main club for anything MB from the 60s and 70s.

Tremek
Jun 10, 2005

Talk me into/out of a $5k '92 500E.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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Tremek posted:

Talk me into/out of a $5k '92 500E.

Has it been beat to hell or have 200k miles or something?

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:

Tremek posted:

Talk me out of a $5k '92 500E.

You've come to the wrong place for that. :clint:

Sock The Great
Oct 1, 2006

It's Lonely At The Top. But It's Comforting To Look Down Upon Everyone At The Bottom
Grimey Drawer
My 2011 C Class was rear ended by a 1999 Dodge Caravan this morning. Solid day.

Just superficial damage to the bumper from the looks of it. Extremely frustrating though. Luckily I was en route to the dealer for my B Service so I'll have them check it out for anything structural while it's there.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Sock The Great posted:

My 2011 C Class was rear ended by a 1999 Dodge Caravan this morning. Solid day.

Just superficial damage to the bumper from the looks of it. Extremely frustrating though. Luckily I was en route to the dealer for my B Service so I'll have them check it out for anything structural while it's there.

I'm picturing the Benz with a little fender dent and the front end of the Caravan completely wrecked.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

Tremek posted:

Talk me into/out of a $5k '92 500E.

This is potentially a good car. Give details.

Sock The Great
Oct 1, 2006

It's Lonely At The Top. But It's Comforting To Look Down Upon Everyone At The Bottom
Grimey Drawer

El Scotch posted:

I'm picturing the Benz with a little fender dent and the front end of the Caravan completely wrecked.

You'd be pretty close.



Tremek
Jun 10, 2005

blk posted:

Has it been beat to hell or have 200k miles or something?

Both?



Ugly wheels, clearly some front-end damage with the ripped-off lower spoiler, that the dent in the rolled fender is a shame. Who knows what it would take to get that back to pretty, but it probably doesn't impair function. No reported accidents on Autocheck for what it's worth. Seems possible someone ran over a gator or something and it was flung up into the wheel well.

The interior, on the other hand, appears clean:





A fellow goon's going to scope it out for me and report back. Maybe it can be had very cheaply... and then allow for spending many times the cost of entry to unfuck it...

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
Missing the headlight wipers - I wonder what else it's missing?

Need a good inspection, for sure. The engine should be good at that mileage, but the transmission might be in rebuild time. Shifts should be mostly smooth with maybe just a little thump in the small of your back if you hit them hard.

Make sure the windows are silent.

Tremek
Jun 10, 2005

Mr. Wiggles posted:

Missing the headlight wipers - I wonder what else it's missing?

Need a good inspection, for sure. The engine should be good at that mileage, but the transmission might be in rebuild time. Shifts should be mostly smooth with maybe just a little thump in the small of your back if you hit them hard.

Make sure the windows are silent.

Did all 500Es come with the headlight wipers? I also noticed that, but then found another '92 for sale out there that doesn't have them:



Thanks for the advice on the windows and shifting. I asked the 500E forum guys their opinion and have started a riot over there. Some think it's worth saving - with a $10-15k investment to bring it back to a $10k car - and others think it should be parted out. I have a tough time wrapping my head around parting out a 1500 car production run now/future classic. :(

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.
Yeah, they all had them. But when they fail, a lot of people don't fix them and thus remove them, especially if they change a headlight and break them or something. It's a sign that the car hasn't been well cared for in other ways.

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Tremek
Jun 10, 2005

Good to know, thanks. If I get serious about this one I will take it for a PPI to the great Mercedes guy I found that did all the maintenance and performance stuff on my E55 for his feedback.

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