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I wonder if the avalanche brought down any old bodies that were up there.
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Apr 27, 2015 06:06
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ante posted:Aren't there still a whole bunch of people unaccounted for? Or have they been found? I don't know - there are some pretty randomish numbers floating around; immediately after the quake, they were suggesting there were ~200 above base camp, but it seemed like everyone that came back to C2 (and subsequently C1) did so successfully. There was a medivac from C1 yesterday, though I'm not sure how many were taken down. Weirdly the next suggestion was that there were ~100 people at C1 to be evac'd but then there were 80 being flown down this morning. I'm not sure anyone has any real idea where people are at this point. There are some people who had been trekking in the area and/or had just left BC who have been out of contact since after the quake, and some weird reports of sherpas hearing voices of people trapped in the icefall [google translate kind of mangles this] so yeah, it seems probable the number is going to increase.
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Apr 27, 2015 06:14
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Zeike posted:I wonder if the avalanche brought down any old bodies that were up there. This whole earthquake thing is just Everest brushing the crumbs off of her shirt.
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Apr 27, 2015 06:14
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I can't imagine the missing people being alive for the most part. I mean, if by this point you're not accounted for, that's probably because you got crushed under 20 feet of snow. Its a grim though but I really don't see how it could turn out better. Maybe the missing toll includes all the people that fled off the mountain at the first chance?
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Apr 27, 2015 06:18
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Blitter posted:and some weird reports of sherpas hearing voices of people trapped in the icefall [google translate kind of mangles this] so yeah, it seems probable the number is going to increase. maybe they mean like... ghosts
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Apr 27, 2015 06:18
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Internet Kraken posted:I can't imagine the missing people being alive for the most part. I mean, if by this point you're not accounted for, that's probably because you got crushed under 20 feet of snow. Its a grim though but I really don't see how it could turn out better. Or they peaced out to their home land and because the trekking company tents are in tatters, they're not keeping a great tally on things.
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Apr 27, 2015 06:22
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Zeike posted:I wonder if the avalanche brought down any old bodies that were up there. I don't expect there were any bodies up on Pumori, which is where the big avalanche came from, as it's kind of behind the basecamp with the khumbu icefall on the opposite side. I'm sure there are lots of bodies in the icefall but I imagine they'd be some unrecognizable freeze-dried paste by now. Feminition posted:maybe they mean like... ghosts Stay safe crevasse ghost? Seriously tho, either a) quietly moaning, broken and dying in a crevasse or b) hearing people quietly moaning, broken and dying in a crevasse would be loving horrible.
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Apr 27, 2015 06:25
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GDI, how are hypoxic tourists going to suplex sherpas off the Kangshung face now? *tears up betting slip*
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Apr 27, 2015 06:38
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I'm seeing reports that there were about 100 people at camps 1 and 2, and all are alive but the route down was completely destroyed. Base camp is still being dug out.
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Apr 27, 2015 06:41
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Some photos from base camp. The first one of the avalanche is  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/26/mount-everest-avalanche-photos_n_7146596.html
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Apr 27, 2015 06:50
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thousands of locals are dead or missing but I'm only seeking out stories about the tourists.
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Apr 27, 2015 06:52
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Fansy posted:thousands of locals are dead or missing but I'm only seeking out stories about the tourists. Did you read the thread title at all?
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Apr 27, 2015 06:54
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Fansy posted:thousands of locals are dead or missing but I'm only seeking out stories about the tourists. "Why are you guys talking about Everest in the Everest thread???" 
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Apr 27, 2015 06:55
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Fansy posted:thousands of locals are dead or missing but I'm only seeking out stories about the tourists. Try one of the threads about the Nepal earthquake instead of the thread about Everest.
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Apr 27, 2015 06:58
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Try one of the threads about the Nepal earthquake instead of the thread about Everest. Why? I'm only seeking out stories about the tourists.
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Apr 27, 2015 07:05
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Rondette posted:Some photos from base camp. The first one of the avalanche is  oh my goodness. I cant imagine how he felt while he was capturing that moment, instead of like trying to run or sheltering or something 
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Apr 27, 2015 07:08
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Necros posted:im sure all the people who are regulars itt already know, but this guy owns and pretty much runs up mountains that kill nearly half the people who make it to the top. It would've been kinda awesome if Ueli had been on Everest this year instead of last because he would've done some sick 360 noscope summit already and then come back down with supplies from china. Ueli is my hero.
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Apr 27, 2015 07:08
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It's not like this disaster doesn't tie into the Nepali suffering in their life, their economy, and their heritage. And sacred mountains. Indian rescue effort reports are amazing though, meanwhile America couldn't mobilize half as fast for NOLA.
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Apr 27, 2015 07:11
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You are only allowed to be concerned for Nepal or everest and not both. Sorry.
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Apr 27, 2015 07:16
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Rondette posted:Some photos from base camp. The first one of the avalanche is  Urban camo seems like a bad choice for mountaineering/rescue team uniforms.
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Apr 27, 2015 07:32
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tentative8e8op posted:
where the gently caress do you run or take shelter from a giant wall of snow when you're on a barren mountain gently caress it if i saw something like that coming i'd assume i was dead and keep recording because poo poo man, why the gently caress shouldn't i
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Apr 27, 2015 07:34
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Cubey posted:where the gently caress do you run or take shelter from a giant wall of snow when you're on a barren mountain I would think "nearest tent" myself, so that you at least have some protection from being covered in ice shards.
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Apr 27, 2015 08:02
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Ursine Asylum posted:I would think "nearest tent" myself, so that you at least have some protection from being covered in ice shards. rofl you have never been in a tent in your entire life if you think one would do a goddamn loving thing about ice shards. i mean poo poo did you not see the pictures of the place afterwards where 90% of the tents were knocked the hell over or what. yeah let's take refuge in a tent and suffocate in there instead.
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Apr 27, 2015 08:05
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C.M. Kruger posted:
yeah, they should've used their non-camouflaged arctic military equipment
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Apr 27, 2015 08:06
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getting into a tent against an avalanche like that is about as practical as duck and cover
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Apr 27, 2015 08:07
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The-Mole posted:getting into a tent against an avalanche like that is about as practical as duck and cover i mean you can't blame people for not knowing how flimsy tents are when you can prolly count the number of them in this thread who have ever been in one on one hand, to be fair
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Apr 27, 2015 08:08
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The-Mole posted:getting into a tent against an avalanche like that is about as practical as duck and cover probably but if presented the choice between "jump into a blender" or "jump into a bag full of potentially useful supplies and then throw yourself and the bag into the blender" i'd still probably pick the latter one i mean even with duck and cover i'd probably choose 'under the desk' to 'watch the wrath of god coming down a mountain at me and catch it directly in the face'
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Apr 27, 2015 08:10
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If Into Thin Air taught me anything, that Sherpa tea is like a health potion. Just drink some of it or pour it over the horrible wounds you just incurred, it's better than tuss.
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Apr 27, 2015 08:11
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Dying in a tent after an avalanche sounds worse idk
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Apr 27, 2015 08:11
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Ursine Asylum posted:probably but if presented the choice between "jump into a blender" or "jump into a bag full of potentially useful supplies and then throw yourself and the bag into the blender" i'd still probably pick the latter one The "bag" is going to collapse under all that snow, it's not going to make a difference.
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Apr 27, 2015 08:16
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monster on a stick posted:The "bag" is going to collapse under all that snow, it's not going to make a difference. if anything it'd make it worse, as if you get buried by snow you might be able to dig yourself out if it isn't thickly packed but if you get buried in snow inside a tent you'll suffocate really goddamn fast.
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Apr 27, 2015 08:19
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Cubey posted:if anything it'd make it worse, as if you get buried by snow you might be able to dig yourself out if it isn't thickly packed but if you get buried in snow inside a tent you'll suffocate really goddamn fast. Much like the Duck and Cover policy of climbing into a paper bag it will make your mangled body easier to transport though.
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Apr 27, 2015 08:20
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Cubey posted:if anything it'd make it worse, as if you get buried by snow you might be able to dig yourself out if it isn't thickly packed but if you get buried in snow inside a tent you'll suffocate really goddamn fast. True, I've been in tents in foul weather and it's not that much better than being outside. But you know, avalanche, people should just run from the hundreds of tons of snow coming for you at 60 miles per hour. Or maybe jump on top of the snow and ride it down the mountain.
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Apr 27, 2015 08:24
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The-Mole posted:getting into a tent against an avalanche like that is about as practical as duck and cover why do people use duck and cover as an example of futility like, most of the deaths and injuries in a nuclear blast would have been from flying glass & building collapse, duck & cover was solid doctrine and it absolutely would have saved lives and prevented lots of injuries
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Apr 27, 2015 08:31
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monster on a stick posted:True, I've been in tents in foul weather and it's not that much better than being outside. Get a better tent. I did a decent amount of camping (including some that wasn't "put a tent up 20 feet away from your parked car") while I was a teenager and spent the night in a tent in some nasty weather far away from civilization. Yeah, it's not the most pleasant experience but I stayed warm and dry.
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Apr 27, 2015 08:34
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Cubey posted:where the gently caress do you run or take shelter from a giant wall of snow when you're on a barren mountain Thats kinda what i meant though. Like, he saw such an avalanche barreling right at him and he somehow had a presence of mind to capture what he probably felt would be one of his last living moments with a camera. All his emotions, while he was knowing and kinda accepting he's about to die enough to take a picture instead of wasting all his time running, and afterwards when he lived, have had to of been indescribable.
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Apr 27, 2015 08:35
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Mountain god farts on tourists The release of this air and pressure was similar to a whoopee cushion or balloon. The air blast was concentrated towards the tents in the central portion of Everest Basecamp. Hurricane force wind from the blast completely pulverized and blew the camp away. Some Duffels from Expedition members were tossed for more than a football field’s length. Expedition boots, dining tent frames, and ice axes were tossed far across the glacier too. Right now 20-plus people are injured and the death toll is 8-20 people, but that may increase. Many of the injuries were similar to ones you might see in the Midwest when a tornado hits, with contusions and lacerations from flying debris. Head Injuries, broken legs, internal injuries, impalements also happened to people. Some people were picked up and tossed across the glacier for a hundred yards. People that took refuge in tents turned out to be the unlucky ones…..only a few feet away if a person hid behind a rock or a ice bank they escaped unharmed. People in tents were wrapped up in them, lifted by the force of the blast and then slammed down onto rocks, glacial moraine and ice on the glacier. Such an unbelievable force of wind and compressed air from the falling ice seracs and snow, it’s very hard to wrap my head around it. http://www.jonkeverest.org/blog/2015/04/26/Everest-Earthquake-Avalanche-Aftermath-Photos.aspx
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Apr 27, 2015 08:40
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keevo posted:Don't think this video has been posted yet: gently caress
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Cubey posted:if anything it'd make it worse, as if you get buried by snow you might be able to dig yourself out if it isn't thickly packed but if you get buried in snow inside a tent you'll suffocate really goddamn fast. Not any faster than being buried in equivalent snow while not in a tent. Suffocation from snow on tents is usually a result of people being asleep when it happens, and thus not awake to realize their tent has become a tomb. If anything the structure of a 4-season tent would make it easier to create an air pocket. Anyone even slightly competent in hiking/backpacking carries a knife so getting out of the tent should not be a major problem. Therefore, most of the people at EBC would've been totally screwed. Geoj posted:Get a better tent. I did a decent amount of camping (including some that wasn't "put a tent up 20 feet away from your parked car") while I was a teenager and spent the night in a tent in some nasty weather far away from civilization. Yeah, it's not the most pleasant experience but I stayed warm and dry. Yep, and learn where to pitch it. Hiking in Patagonia we were making jokes about some inexperienced dudes pitching their tent in a nice cozy depression between some trees, with their fly guyed to a single branch because they didn't quite get how to use guy-lines. We got a torrential downpour that night and they had 3 standing inches of water inside their tent in the morning. old-timey newspaper gal fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Apr 27, 2015 |
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