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lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

Waiting to hear back about my brother in law. Was at base camp. Probably isn't now. Two kids at home, selfish bastard.

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unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Hot Jam posted:

Not any faster than being buried in equivalent snow while not in a tent. Suffocation from snow on tents is usually a result of people being asleep when it happens, and thus not awake to realize their tent has become a tomb. If anything the structure of a 4-season tent would make it easier to create an air pocket

ok but

Fansy posted:

People that took refuge in tents turned out to be the unlucky ones…..only a few feet away if a person hid behind a rock or a ice bank they escaped unharmed. People in tents were wrapped up in them, lifted by the force of the blast and then slammed down onto rocks, glacial moraine and ice on the glacier.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

Fansy posted:

People that took refuge in tents turned out to be the unlucky ones…..only a few feet away if a person hid behind a rock or a ice bank they escaped unharmed. People in tents were wrapped up in them, lifted by the force of the blast and then slammed down onto rocks, glacial moraine and ice on the glacier. Such an unbelievable force of wind and compressed air from the falling ice seracs and snow, it’s very hard to wrap my head around it.

tehy sould have carried a knife collection like aney halveway competitent mountaineer!! the ydonte know nothing about a real tents

DEEP STATE PLOT
Aug 13, 2008

Yes...Ha ha ha...YES!



Hot Jam posted:

Not any faster than being buried in equivalent snow while not in a tent. Suffocation from snow on tents is usually a result of people being asleep when it happens, and thus not awake to realize their tent has become a tomb. If anything the structure of a 4-season tent would make it easier to create an air pocket. Anyone even slightly competent in hiking/backpacking carries a knife so getting out of the tent should not be a major problem. Therefore, most of the people at EBC would've been totally screwed.

Taking refuge in a tent during an avalanche would almost certainly mean ending up tangled in a crumpled bunch of nylon under the weight of a bunch of snow. I cannot see any situation in which diving in a tend gives you a better chance of surviving.

old-timey newspaper gal
Feb 23, 2005
Sure, all I said was that you would not suffocate faster being buried in an equivalent amount of snow inside of a tent vs outside of a tent. I did not say that everyone should seek refuge in a tent in an avalanche.

old-timey newspaper gal
Feb 23, 2005

OMGVBFLOL posted:

tehy sould have carried a knife collection like aney halveway competitent mountaineer!! the ydonte know nothing about a real tents

Nah just 1 that is also lightweight multiple knives are not worth the packweight.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

Hot Jam posted:

Nah just 1 that is also lightweight multiple knives are not worth the packweight.

when i waes camping in patagonia, teh store manager came & say "get out of the tents, u cants sleep hear, i am callinge mall security" disaseter can strike anywhere, it s a good thing i hade my trsuty guye wires

Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

What’s an avalance in a tent to a muhfucka like me
Can you please remind me?

PERMACAV 50
Jul 24, 2007

because we are cat

Hot Jam posted:

It would've been kinda awesome if Ueli had been on Everest this year instead of last because he would've done some sick 360 noscope summit already and then come back down with supplies from china. Ueli is my hero.

No mere avalanche can stop Ueli Steck. He'd just claw his way out and continue casually jogging up the mountain.

old-timey newspaper gal
Feb 23, 2005

OMGVBFLOL posted:

when i waes camping in patagonia, teh store manager came & say "get out of the tents, u cants sleep hear, i am callinge mall security" disaseter can strike anywhere, it s a good thing i hade my trsuty guye wires

Patagonia doesn't make tents and they don't have any stores that are in shopping malls. The whole fyad thing was pretty funny otherwise though.

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Sex Hobbit posted:

No mere avalanche can stop Ueli Steck. He'd just claw his way out and continue casually jogging up the mountain.

Non-joking: I'm surprised that guy is still alive. Just that video of him climbing over the snow on Mt. Eiger, just a patch of loose snow and a tiny avalance and he would be airborne. Probability-wise, he should have been splattered against a mountainside years ago.

How many close calls has that guy had? He's an adrenaline junkie for drat sure.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

lenoon posted:

Waiting to hear back about my brother in law. Was at base camp. Probably isn't now. Two kids at home, selfish bastard.

Was he doing the trek or a climb?

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

Climbing, he's one of the people that delivers fresh corpses to the mountain in the form of executives with more money than sense. He's been up to the summit lots of times, left someone up there in 2010 and had to abort his teams summit attempt during the big die off a couple of years ago. I'm sure he'll be fine. Tends to be. Think he even went back into the death zone to retrieve a body a few years back. Phone posting or I'd go hunt down a link.

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer
Places where you can donate- any suggestions will be added to the OP. FWIW I gave my money to ActionAid.

Actionaid

Unicef

Doublestep
Sep 8, 2013

Keep on keeping on!

lenoon posted:

Climbing, he's one of the people that delivers fresh corpses to the mountain in the form of executives with more money than sense. He's been up to the summit lots of times, left someone up there in 2010 and had to abort his teams summit attempt during the big die off a couple of years ago. I'm sure he'll be fine. Tends to be. Think he even went back into the death zone to retrieve a body a few years back. Phone posting or I'd go hunt down a link.

goddamn leaving a dude up there to die is hosed up

like yeah they were probably going to die too if they tried to keep them with him but just dumping off a blind person on a snowbank and saying peace seems real rich white tourist

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!

Doublestep posted:

goddamn leaving a dude up there to die is hosed up

like yeah they were probably going to die too if they tried to keep them with him but just dumping off a blind person on a snowbank and saying peace seems real rich white tourist

It is the the 8000+ way. It has been debated hundreds of times in these threads, but there are tons of situations where carrying another climber would just mean more deaths in the end. So if you can't walk by your own force, you'll be left behind.

The hosed up thing is to go to a deadly mountain without the skills and training necessary, because you're a cool executive with tons of cash and a desperate need for a really bad-rear end profile picture on Facebook, and exposing tons of other people to mortal danger.

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.

lilljonas posted:

It is the the 8000+ way. It has been debated hundreds of times in these threads, but there are tons of situations where carrying another climber would just mean more deaths in the end. So if you can't walk by your own force, you'll be left behind.

The hosed up thing is to go to a deadly mountain without the skills and training necessary, because you're a cool executive with tons of cash and a desperate need for a really bad-rear end profile picture on Facebook, and exposing tons of other people to mortal danger.

He seems to have been plenty skilled enough, the problem is his retinas exploded and he went blind. #justeverestthings



Also obligatory: 'I would have rather seen a hundred sherpas die in the process if it means saving these heroes. What are they getting paid for??'

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

lenoon posted:

[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/everest-team-forced-to-leave-sick-british-climber-to-die-1988979.html]

quote:

Retinal haemorrhages – bleeding from the cells at the back of the eye – are a relatively common complaint of mountain climbers. High altitude causes the blood to thicken, increasing blood pressure, which can lead to the seepage of blood from cells into surrounding tissues.

ah yes bleeding from my eyes, it's bolded on my todo list

lenoon
Jan 7, 2010

I don't know how mountain morality works, so don't ask me. Whole thing is hosed up.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib
I posted a few days ago that I'd look for legit operations in Nepal to donate to directly, but didn't follow up as I was waiting for one in particular to throw in. They now have, so those of you looking for legit operations for relief donation may want to consider Live to Love, which is the organization of His Holiness the Gyalwang Drukpa. Not only are they a reputable organization with established disaster relief systems in place, they are also headquartered in Nepal, meaning that money donated to Live to Love will be immediately put into use in the area surrounding Druk Amitabha Mountain Nunnery in the Kathmandu valley. To me, this represents a better option for donation than some international organizations where the money and aid will have to be funneled through several tiers of bureaucracy and transport before it arrives at a final destination.

Live to Love volunteer crews are already assisting with boots on the ground in and around Kathmandu valley and direct financing will be very helpful. The website has more information.

Of course, any charitable donation you want to make to any organization is helpful for the people of Nepal.

Paramemetic
Sep 29, 2003

Area 51. You heard of it, right?





Fallen Rib

Rondette posted:

Places where you can donate- any suggestions will be added to the OP. FWIW I gave my money to ActionAid.

Actionaid

Unicef

Please add http://www.livetolove.org/what-s-happening-sidebar/277-help-us-help-nepal which I just posted more details about above as well. Experienced, established disaster relief team headquartered in Nepal, a good way to get money directly to the front lines and assist rescue crews already with boots on the ground.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

Hot Jam posted:

Patagonia doesn't make tents and they don't have any stores that are in shopping malls. The whole fyad thing was pretty funny otherwise though.

uhhhhhhh i brought the tent with me???? becauses i was camping!??? dumbass!

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

hey those udmbfucks in the everest dont they know everest dosent make tents??!!

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

Paramemetic posted:

Please add http://www.livetolove.org/what-s-happening-sidebar/277-help-us-help-nepal which I just posted more details about above as well. Experienced, established disaster relief team headquartered in Nepal, a good way to get money directly to the front lines and assist rescue crews already with boots on the ground.

already added :)

Grim Up North
Dec 12, 2011

https://twitter.com/NorthmenPK/status/592643133457899521
@NorthmenPK: #Everest heli evacuation is complete, all climbers from high camps rescued to base camp. #NepalQuake

:unsmith:

https://twitter.com/NorthmenPK/status/592647104348164096
@NorthmenPK: #Nepal appeal from stuck mountaineers to journalists: "don't try to call us, phone batteries are precious to our lives" (Marco)

:mad:

Epitope
Nov 27, 2006

Grimey Drawer

Fansy posted:

Mountain god farts on tourists


The release of this air and pressure was similar to a whoopee cushion or balloon. The air blast was concentrated towards the tents in the central portion of Everest Basecamp. Hurricane force wind from the blast completely pulverized and blew the camp away. Some Duffels from Expedition members were tossed for more than a football field’s length. Expedition boots, dining tent frames, and ice axes were tossed far across the glacier too. Right now 20-plus people are injured and the death toll is 8-20 people, but that may increase. Many of the injuries were similar to ones you might see in the Midwest when a tornado hits, with contusions and lacerations from flying debris. Head Injuries, broken legs, internal injuries, impalements also happened to people. Some people were picked up and tossed across the glacier for a hundred yards. People that took refuge in tents turned out to be the unlucky ones…..only a few feet away if a person hid behind a rock or a ice bank they escaped unharmed. People in tents were wrapped up in them, lifted by the force of the blast and then slammed down onto rocks, glacial moraine and ice on the glacier. Such an unbelievable force of wind and compressed air from the falling ice seracs and snow, it’s very hard to wrap my head around it.

http://www.jonkeverest.org/blog/2015/04/26/Everest-Earthquake-Avalanche-Aftermath-Photos.aspx

Huh. So being higher up ended up being safer for a lot of them, despite the way down getting erased.

quote:

I was relieved to find out that Alan Arnette and the rest of the team was up in Camp I or II on the mountain, but when they return, they will have nothing, they will be homeless and their camp is destroyed. Many other teams will have to accept the same fate, but they were lucky, and so were we. An old friend of mine, Dan Mazur and his Summit Climb Camp was also leveled, but again their members up in Camp I, spared.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



gently caress I just took cover in a tent on this thread's advice and now I'm dead

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


I skipped a few pages, so is this thread back to talking about mountain climbing / updates on stranded people yet or do some people still need to get their hand-wringing shame-on-you shitposting out of the way

Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
t

ethanol posted:

gently caress I just took cover in a tent on this thread's advice and now I'm dead

Stay safe, corn-based ghost :smith:

Blitter
Mar 16, 2011

Intellectual
AI Enthusiast

"Desnivel via google translate posted:

Another three Sherpas died yesterday in the Icefall

Sakaly filmmaker Elia, who is in the Everest base camp, just reported a new tragedy in the Everest base camp. The death of three Sherpas in the Icefall "Unfortunately three Sherpas died yesterday at the Waterfall Ice and their bodies have been evacuated today. They died in an avalanche that took place after the earthquake. The shock wave most of the steps that were in the Cascade was. These brave men are the unsung heroes of Everest lately have lost their lives doing a job that allows them to support their children, women, family and community. My heart continues to cry. When will this end? "

I suppose those were the reported noises from the icefield.. :(

"Alpine Ascents International posted:

Today Fishtail Air, Manang Air, and Simrick Air are pulling together an incredible operation to heli everyone down from Camp 1. If the weather holds as many as 160 climbers will be evacuated today. As we left camp 1, teams were arriving from Camp 2 after descending down the Western Cwm.

Some pretty variable numbers, and still people descending from higher up the mountain.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

raditts posted:

I skipped a few pages, so is this thread back to talking about mountain climbing / updates on stranded people yet or do some people still need to get their hand-wringing shame-on-you shitposting out of the way

I don't know, maybe you should read the thread and find out

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


Nope

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004


So your not really looking to read updates on the higher camps, base camp, climbers or nepal, you just want to know if those drat trolls are done making GBS threads up your favorite dead people photoshop thread? interesting and weird.

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.


yep
you sure got my number

Happy Hedonist
Jan 18, 2009


GBS is the first place I go when I want to celebrate my moral superiority.

Wasabi the J
Jan 23, 2008

MOM WAS RIGHT

Literally Kermit posted:

Stay safe, corn-based ghost :smith:

Guess you could say he was a spirit now.

Literally Kermit
Mar 4, 2012
t

Wasabi the J posted:

Guess you could say he was a spirit now.

Guess you could say he's

:byob1:

on the rocks.

All kidding aside, stay safe anyone on Everest!! :ohdear:

Troublemaker
Mar 12, 2007

Blitter posted:


There are some people who had been trekking in the area and/or had just left BC who have been out of contact since after the quake, and some weird reports of sherpas hearing voices of people trapped in the icefall [google translate kind of mangles this] so yeah, it seems probable the number is going to increase.

Oh dear god, I can't imagine slowly making my way over that horrible icefall and suddenly getting hit by an earthquake/avalanche. Maybe still clipped onto a ladder as the whole thing plunges into a crevasse. Ugh.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Nice piece of fish posted:

Non-joking: I'm surprised that guy is still alive. Just that video of him climbing over the snow on Mt. Eiger, just a patch of loose snow and a tiny avalance and he would be airborne. Probability-wise, he should have been splattered against a mountainside years ago.

How many close calls has that guy had? He's an adrenaline junkie for drat sure.
Lots. His first serious accident in 2007 he got clocked by a rock on Annapurna and fell a few hundred meters and woke up with a headache but otherwise unharmed (landed in snow) and that spooked him for awhile but as usual he went back at it. His most recent he just managed to escape an avalache that claimed the lives of two other people on Shishapangma in Tibet in 2014.

Guy is a beast but he's pushing 40 and will either have to slow down or die. There's a saying that goes 'there are old climbers, and there are bold climbers, but there are no old, bold climbers.'

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corker2k
Feb 22, 2013

Quite a good overall picture so far from the BBC:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-32476888

Interestingly the vast majority of their coverage to date has been about Nepal and Kathmandu and not Everest and climbers.

Edit: I didn't know you could be evacuated from camp 2 by chopper; although the article states only one person at a time can be

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