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Trabisnikof posted:Well.... Ah ah, I said "accurately describe the basics". While I'm surprised at the unfavorables in that poll, my hypothesis is that 80+% of Americans couldn't accurately describe what happened and that they wouldn't care if anyone else (besides a prominent Democrat) were involved. Of course there's going to be a reaction on the right to "Hillary did a thing" that splits exactly along party lines.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Never once used her official email. Used her unofficial email for official business, making it her de facto official email and subject to disclosure. Deletes all the emails rather than disclose them. Is it any wonder that something smells fishy?
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JT Jag posted:De facto? Maybe. De jure? Nope. Just cause it ain't illegal don't mean you deserve to be elected President.
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Luckily most people who have lives (read: those who don't personally invest themselves in politics) aren't going to be fooled and haven't been fooled by the GOP suddenly becoming hand wringing, heart bleeding humanitarians over four specific deaths in Africa.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Just cause it ain't illegal don't mean you deserve to be elected President. Too fake, even for you. You made the same arguments for the opposite on this forum - that despite illegality, they should still run for their jobs and perhaps even be elected for being ballsy on false premises. Radbot posted:Luckily most people who have lives (read: those who don't personally invest themselves in politics) aren't going to be fooled and haven't been fooled by the GOP suddenly becoming hand wringing, heart bleeding humanitarians over four specific deaths in Africa. I had to show where Benghazi was located to my co-workers on my phone - one of them said, 'Seriously, it's in Africa? Why do we give a gently caress, then? It wasn't the Middle East.' I think that statement might be America.Txt for me, so far. Armani fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Apr 27, 2015 |
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Radbot posted:Ah ah, I said "accurately describe the basics". While I'm surprised at the unfavorables in that poll, my hypothesis is that 80+% of Americans couldn't accurately describe what happened and that they wouldn't care if anyone else (besides a prominent Democrat) were involved. Are you assuming that people have to understand an issue to form opinions about it? Have you met people? TheDisreputableDog posted:It's like, a handcuffed suspect is shot in a patrol car. There was video evidence, but the officer in question took the tape home and accidentally recorded over it with an NCIS rerun, nbd he must have snuck a gun into the car somehow. No, it's more like she, like her predecessors certified that all job-relevant materials had been provided to the DoS and that she wasn't retaining any. So its exactly like handing over a box of papers and saying that's all the relevant papers. Are there other papers? Could be, sure, but there's no way to know until someone invents a perfect lie detector.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Just cause it ain't illegal don't mean you deserve to be elected President. Rats. I've deleted a personal email. Now I'll never get elected president.
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Ceiling fan posted:Rats. I've deleted a personal email. Now I'll never get elected president. Did you delete it after Congress requested you to turn it over?
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My Imaginary GF posted:Did you delete it after Congress requested you to turn it over? Only 18 or so.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Did you delete it after Congress requested you to turn it over? Once again you should stop reading BS off of conservative blogs because that's not true.
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An Angry Bug posted:Oh for god's sake, it's MIGF. He's not debating in good faith. He's not even doing a good job with his schtick anymore. Why are you treating him like someone you can convince of anything?
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I would have always thought MIGF would be a big Hillary supporter since she has a similar but not quite as odious brand of politics, who is the MIGF approved candidate?
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MaxxBot posted:I would have always thought MIGF would be a big Hillary supporter since she has a similar but not quite as odious brand of politics, who is the MIGF approved candidate? Rahm, of course.
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FAUXTON posted:Rahm, of course. Dude was pushing Rauner for a while, too. 
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MaxxBot posted:I would have always thought MIGF would be a big Hillary supporter since she has a similar but not quite as odious brand of politics, who is the MIGF approved candidate? An anthropomorphization of the entire city of Chicago.
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RIP President Rand Paul.
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He's regurgitating 30-year-old geopolitical thought from the Reagan era. Vintage fart-huffing right there.
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JT Jag posted:He's not wrong. Yeah, but he is trying to get the votes of people who are wrong.
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JT Jag posted:He's not wrong. His reason isn't that it led to a decades long quagmire spending untold amounts of blood and treasure from all sides but that Saddam was a strong bulwark against Iran.
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zoux posted:His reason isn't that it led to a decades long quagmire spending untold amounts of blood and treasure from all sides but that Saddam was a strong bulwark against Iran.
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Yes, Israel's Best Friend, Saddam Hussein
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JT Jag posted:He's still not wrong. Yeah but that's hosed up and no one on the left or the right is going to agree with his rationale.
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JT Jag posted:He's still not wrong. No, he's wrong broadly but also in detail. It's like saying the sun rises and sets daily but also claiming that happens because the sun revolves around the earth. Yes, the sun indeed rises and sets daily but it sure as poo poo doesn't revolve around the earth. That's still wrong and he doesn't get loving partial credit for reciting the position of the Reagan administration regarding the middle east.
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Yes I too believe that if Hussein was still in power we'd have ISIS crawling around the place and daily carbombings of hundreds of people.
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I hate this narrative. Rand Paul posted:“I think Israel is one of our best allies and best friends around the world, they’re the only the democracy in the Middle East, and I’m very supportive of them,” Paul said. Yes I know they are a democracy but, you only get to vote if you are jewish or you are part of the arab minority still living there, the same arab minority that many in Bibi's cabinet wants to expel from Israel. But, it's a democracy. Plus, I'd argue that we are Israel's only friend in the world and they should be reminded of that often and forcefully.
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FAUXTON posted:No, he's wrong broadly but also in detail. It's like saying the sun rises and sets daily but also claiming that happens because the sun revolves around the earth. Yes, the sun indeed rises and sets daily but it sure as poo poo doesn't revolve around the earth. That's still wrong and he doesn't get loving partial credit for reciting the position of the Reagan administration regarding the middle east. What the gently caress are you talking about? E: Also that article is hilariously written, with attention paid to weird details. Boon fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Apr 27, 2015 |
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I'm a little more weirded out by this argument:Rand Paul posted:One day Israel should be independent, and Israel will have stronger national defense when they are completely independent because we force them to buy U.S.-made manufacturers for military equipment. I'm not entirely sure what Rand's trying to say here. Is he suggesting that U.S.-made military equipment is crap? 
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Boon posted:What the gently caress are you talking about? Frosted pastries and instant coffee yum!
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Dude was pushing Rauner for a while, too. I wasn't pushing him, I'm of the opinion that you don't run for Governor of Illinois and politically live if you don't plan to run for higher office. Consider Rauner to be the inverse Blago. And yes, I don't think Hillary would be trustworthy enough to win the D primary. Far better for her campaign to implode from a well-heeled Illinois grassroots campaign. After the primary, yeah, vote whoever the D nominee is. During the primary fight? Rahm's the man we need as President, even if he ain't the man this thread likes. radical meme posted:I hate this narrative. You say that and I hear, "Israel is a democracy where you [get the vote if you're a citizen in compliance with Israeli law]." My Imaginary GF fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Apr 27, 2015 |
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Radbot posted:Yes I too believe that if Hussein was still in power we'd have ISIS crawling around the place and daily carbombings of hundreds of people.
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JT Jag posted:We'd have probably seen an Arab Spring in Iraq and Assad-esque brutal repression of the resistance, but the upshot is that with Saddam at the helm in one country and Assad at the helm next door any region-wide resistance would have been less sectarian than the one we're seeing now I'm not sure about that, I don't trust that Iran wouldn't have meddled in Iraq and we could have been seeing Iraq/Iran 2: Chemical Boogaloo.
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My Imaginary GF posted:I'm not sure about that, I don't trust that Iran wouldn't have meddled in Iraq and we could have been seeing Iraq/Iran 2: Chemical Boogaloo.
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My Imaginary GF posted:
Correct; but you can only become a citizen if you are jewish; referring to someone not born there.
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My Imaginary GF posted:I wasn't pushing him, I'm of the opinion that you don't run for Governor of Illinois and politically live if you don't plan to run for higher office. Consider Rauner to be the inverse Blago. Yeah, so many IL governors ran for something else after getting elected, like Adlai Stevenson.
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DaveWoo posted:I'm a little more weirded out by this argument: I believe he's saying the US should give them tons of money to buy weapons and not force them to buy U.S. made weapons with said money.
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^^^ So basically zero return on an already mediocre investment. What an asshat. JT Jag posted:I wonder if MIGF even lives in/has any connections to Illinois or if he just woke up one day and decided to be a shill for a specific
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