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Yes, though way to miss my point.
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Hmmm, yes. What you're saying is we shouldn't talk about monetizing mods, or strategy. What we need is a third way; some kind of strong leader to take control of the course of discussion and restore the pdox thread to its rightful glory.
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Apr 27, 2015 01:52
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Same. I really hope HoI4 is solid and fun because MP party shenianigans of WW2 game sounds baller as hell. Italy has taken over Ireland, oh no.
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Bozart posted:Hmmm, yes. What you're saying is we shouldn't talk about monetizing mods, or strategy. What we need is a third way; some kind of strong leader to take control of the course of discussion and restore the pdox thread to its rightful glory. That is actually the opposite of my point.
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Apr 27, 2015 01:53
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Bozart posted:restore the pdox thread to its rightful glory. Hey everyone, remember that one guy who drew nations as giant big breasted women? I sure do. I still remember Prussia's ever expanding bust. VVV Indeed I still laughed my rear end off to it. Bel Monte fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Apr 27, 2015 |
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Apr 27, 2015 01:54
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e: there are some lines which should not be crossed
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Apr 27, 2015 01:57
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H;ey, just a thought, but maybe not talk about stupid bullshit in the thread that's about HoI and Victoria. Thanks and god bless.
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Apr 27, 2015 04:16
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Did you put that semicolon in on purpose??? That's really crazy dude
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Apr 27, 2015 04:22
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"I wonder how this new Steam paid mod thing is going to affect Paradox games" isn't a germane discussion to be having now that we have Johan on record as sayingquote:I personally dont see how paid mods could work for our PDS games that are constantly updated.
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Apr 27, 2015 04:44
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yeah but what if in this scenario Johan is Hitler claiming the sudetenland is the limit of his territorial ambition and we are Chamberlain proclaiming peace for our time?>??
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Apr 27, 2015 04:49
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It's worth talking about at least a little bit since with Skyrim Valve/Bethesda snuck it up on everyone. Ask any Skyrim player or modder if Steam would ever have a "mod store" on the workshop a day before the announcement and they would have laughed. Everyone involved had a NDA on them until the day of. All we can do is make our various points and issues known now in advance, since for all we know if Paradox games get the same treatment it'll be sudden and without warning.
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Apr 27, 2015 04:51
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BBJoey posted:yeah but what if in this scenario Johan is Hitler claiming the sudetenland is the limit of his territorial ambition and we are Chamberlain proclaiming peace for our time?>?? What did Chamberlain do on September 2 1939, I ask you
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Apr 27, 2015 04:58
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Wee Tinkle Wand posted:It's worth talking about at least a little bit since with Skyrim Valve/Bethesda snuck it up on everyone. Ask any Skyrim player or modder if Steam would ever have a "mod store" on the workshop a day before the announcement and they would have laughed. Everyone involved had a NDA on them until the day of. Plus its just his personal opinion. Its perfectly understandable he does this, but it doesn't really mean anything.
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Apr 27, 2015 05:03
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gradenko_2000 posted:What did Chamberlain do on September 2 1939, I ask you It's always hilarious reminding people that he was still prime minister into May or June 1940.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:It's always hilarious reminding people that he was still prime minister into May or June 1940. Most people don't know that the Munich Agreement wasn't what brought him down, it was the Norway debacle. Not that the pre-war policy of appeasement left him with many fans after Hitler invaded Poland.
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Apr 27, 2015 05:52
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gradenko_2000 posted:What did Chamberlain do on September 2 1939, I ask you this does not help the czechs who are the modders in this increasingly tortured comparison
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Apr 27, 2015 05:57
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Most people don't know that the Munich Agreement wasn't what brought him down, it was the Norway debacle. Not that the pre-war policy of appeasement left him with many fans after Hitler invaded Poland. I haven't studied WWII extensively since I was a kid, what was the debacle? That they failed to protect Norway, that they got a bunch of troops trapped there.
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Kavak posted:I haven't studied WWII extensively since I was a kid, what was the debacle? That they failed to protect Norway, that they got a bunch of troops trapped there. The fact that Germany was able to conduct a seaborne assault under the noses of the home fleet was seen as a major strategic failure on the part of the government.
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Apr 27, 2015 07:52
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Kavak posted:I haven't studied WWII extensively since I was a kid, what was the debacle? That they failed to protect Norway, that they got a bunch of troops trapped there. Yeah, the debacle was that the Kriegsmarine was able to launch an amphibious invasion at all right across from England. It's a hilarious prospect on its face, except it actually happened.
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Apr 27, 2015 08:18
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That's why Churchill was booted out after the war, he was personally popular, but too closely associated with Chamberlains pre-war Conservative government. Well, that and because Labour was promising to rebuild the cities , expand housing, build the National Health Service and pass badly needed social reforms, while the Conservatives were promising jack poo poo except maybe more war. Anyway, 300 posts about mods? Seriously? I thought a demo must have come out. 
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Ghetto Prince posted:Labour was promising to rebuild the cities , expand housing, build the National Health Service and pass badly needed social reforms, while the Conservatives were promising jack poo poo except maybe more war. 70 years on and the only thing that's changed is Labour.
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Apr 27, 2015 09:43
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The backlash about paid mods was considerable enough for Steam to pull the plug on the thing apparently so i guess we can focus on seeing the rest of the portraits for HoI4!
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Apr 28, 2015 00:41
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I wish there was something to say about Victoria. 
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Apr 28, 2015 00:51
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You can say the truth, that it's an unwieldy badly designed incomprehensible mess. But it will be a cool game if it gets a sequel that cuts the bullshit and makes it possible to figure out, like EU4 does. CK2 used to be good but the current team is determined to ruin it. Let's see how HoI4 goes. I have high hopes because HoI3 and HoI2/DH are pretty boring as actual games, not to mention railroady, but have a lot of potential.
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Larry Parrish posted:CK2 used to be good but the current team is determined to ruin it. When did it stop being good?
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Larry Parrish posted:CK2 used to be good but the current team is determined to ruin it 
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Apr 28, 2015 01:13
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The Paradox Plaza posts are coming from inside the thread.
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Kavak posted:When did it stop being good? It's still good I guess if you play at the 1066 start. The earlier start dates are insanely bad and unfortunately tribal mechanics and not being able to become feudal as an unreformed pagan pretty much made playing anyone who wasn't already Muslim or Christian a boring, centuries-long grind. Also don't lie to me and say you liked the India expansion. Nobody does.
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How can something that even you admit is optional ruin the game?
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Larry Parrish posted:Also don't lie to me and say you liked the India expansion. Nobody does. I did. And I'm not lying.
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Larry Parrish posted:It's still good I guess if you play at the 1066 start. The earlier start dates are insanely bad and unfortunately tribal mechanics and not being able to become feudal as an unreformed pagan pretty much made playing anyone who wasn't already Muslim or Christian a boring, centuries-long grind. Also don't lie to me and say you liked the India expansion. Nobody does. Fortunately as a gay person I am used to being invisible in the gaming community
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Apr 28, 2015 01:48
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Larry Parrish posted:It's still good I guess if you play at the 1066 start. The earlier start dates are insanely bad and unfortunately tribal mechanics and not being able to become feudal as an unreformed pagan pretty much made playing anyone who wasn't already Muslim or Christian a boring, centuries-long grind. Also don't lie to me and say you liked the India expansion. Nobody does. What? The best start is still Old Gods but Charlemagne is fine and I've never bothered to do something later than 1066. India is great the only thing I don't like about that expansion is that it made playing in the Levant weird when you can't contact anyone as close as France, North Italy or Germany
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Tribal mechanics blow, 769 is a terrible start date, and Way of Life has some cool bits but broke a ton of events (that still aren't fixed) and actually ends up lowering the variety of events that you'll probably see, since many of the vanilla ones have been placed into objectively terrible focuses. I'm not crazy about India but it's easily modded out. Uhh let's see what else... religious and liberation revolts are still really dumb and way too frequent. I think that's all my bitching. The game isn't ruined forever or anything but I'm not crazy about the way it's been going.
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Mans posted:The backlash about paid mods was considerable enough for Steam to pull the plug on the thing apparently so i guess we can focus on seeing the rest of the portraits for HoI4! BBJoey posted:yeah but what if in this scenario WAKE UP SHEEPLE content: Fuligin posted:The game isn't ruined forever or anything but I'm not crazy about the way it's been going. Yeah the CK2 team doesn't really seem to have a long-term plan in mind. Why was India added? Why does the Charlemagne start even exist? Why are tribals such a pain in the rear end to play? They seem to have a lot of ideas but quite a few are implemented half-heartedly and then only tinkered with later on, not addressing the core problems with them. Sword of Islam has been out for years now and decadence still swings on a pendulum between "pointless busywork that serves no purpose" and "impossible to manage ticking time bomb". BBJoey fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Apr 28, 2015 |
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Apr 28, 2015 02:45
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Sengoku is 75% off on Steam  edit: also the peak of CK2 was the patch immediately pre-Old Gods, with CK2+
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Jazerus posted:edit: also the peak of CK2 was the patch immediately pre-Old Gods, with CK2+ Yep I don't think Rajas adds much to the rest of the game, it just makes the game run slower
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Playing in India is cool and fun especially if you decide to break into the subcontinent from outside. Also doubles as a bunker for when the Mongols come. The Charlemagne start has Visigoths and Lombards and this makes it the best start.
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Tribal mechanics are annoying but I love India and Way of Life.  Honestly the worst part of the pre-1066 starts are the loving Karlings.
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The main problem I have with tribal mechanics is how assholish it is getting up to par once you make the jump. I actually quite like tribal gavelkind and wish real gavelkind worked more like it.
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Jazerus posted:Sengoku is 75% off on Steam Any decent mods come out to make this like... a full game?
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